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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5050, RTX 5060, and RTX 5060 Ti Specifications Leak

Looks like slot power only GPUs are still a NO for this generation then, but perhaps a low profile RTX 5050 at least, for those who need such things.
 
They never even existed.
Yes, and this is the reason why you don't feel like AMD did a paper launch.
Overclockers UK projected their initial stock to last several days. It lasted a few minutes. We're talking about 4000 cards.
We're talking the globe where only US, UK and China (and perhaps some EU countries) have more than a dozen cards countrywide.

Did you care to check if buyers were actual Brits? I wager it's gonna be at least half these cards bought by people from the rest of the world.
I'm blaming the tariffs and TSMC
You're doing it horribly wrong here, sorry. Both AMD and NVIDIA knew tariffs are gonna erect. Both AMD and NVIDIA have EXCELLENT yields. 9070 does ONLY exist to upsell 9070 XT, this is how good things are for AMD. Almost every single one of them has CUs deactivated for tiering reasons, not for factory defects.
NVIDIA don't care (why would they?), AMD did AMD. Navi 48 cards were ready for launch last year when said tariffs weren't remotely a thing. AMD waited till the last possible moment.

Once again: if you plan to reclaim the marketshare you must flood the market with products available for sweet prices. Your MSRP should never be fake. There shouldn't be a situation when more than 75% positions worldwide are sold for 120+ % MSRP. Not to mention how ugly it is to advertise Navi 48 with sweet photos of reference models that doomed to never exist. I hate everything about it.

And btw, we had several times more RTX 3080 GPUs on the launch week than we had 9070 series combined. That still was a paper launch.

//also RT performance in Navi 48 is only impressive if you've never seen anything better than a 2080 Ti
 
Yes, and this is the reason why you don't feel like AMD did a paper launch.
AMD did release something at MSRP. Nvidia didn't. AMD also had a lot more stock.

We're talking the globe where only US, UK and China (and perhaps some EU countries) have more than a dozen cards countrywide.

Did you care to check if buyers were actual Brits? I wager it's gonna be at least half these cards bought by people from the rest of the world.
On every single 9070 XT product page at Overclockers UK:
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You're doing it horribly wrong here, sorry. Both AMD and NVIDIA knew tariffs are gonna erect. Both AMD and NVIDIA have EXCELLENT yields. 9070 does ONLY exist to upsell 9070 XT, this is how good things are for AMD. Almost every single one of them has CUs deactivated for tiering reasons, not for factory defects.
NVIDIA don't care (why would they?), AMD did AMD. Navi 48 cards were ready for launch last year when said tariffs weren't remotely a thing. AMD waited till the last possible moment.

Once again: if you plan to reclaim the marketshare you must flood the market with products available for sweet prices. Your MSRP should never be fake. There shouldn't be a situation when more than 75% positions worldwide are sold for 120+ % MSRP. Not to mention how ugly it is to advertise Navi 48 with sweet photos of reference models that doomed to never exist. I hate everything about it.
That's not a bad point, except:
1. If yields are good, then where are the Nvidia cards? Why do we have news of the 5050, 5060 and 5060 Ti releasing on cut-back dies? Where are the full ones?
2. By releasing early, AMD would have given Nvidia the advantage on pricing, and reviewers the chance to bash them for bad drivers. The 9070 XT wouldn't have seemed such a good deal with bad drivers.
 
The 8GB 5060Ti shouldn't exist. It's such a dumb and pointless config.

I'm also worried about the 5060 8GB - the 4060 8GB has been a problematic sell and already been thrown under the bus by a couple of developers. VRAM isn't expensive, and a 16GB card with low bandwidth isn't a threat to Nvidia's market for AI cards.
 
It shouldn't exist and it's 50/50 anyone is gonna buy that slop for gaming.
For creation, the 5050 would have a warm place in my rack ONLY in HHHL.
Looks like slot power only GPUs are still a NO for this generation then, but perhaps a low profile RTX 5050 at least, for those who need such things.
So even if it needs 6-pin PCI-E, this is it. There's nothing to make guys like me consider the others.
Nvidia needs to work on their product strategy. SKUs all over the place, chips MIA, ROPs DOA, etc.
If yields are so good for AMD and TSMC is at MAX production, these 5050/5060 chips are a scam.
 
AMD did release something at MSRP. Nvidia didn't. AMD also had a lot more stock.
Is that only time when at msrp ? To me it looks like real msrp for RX 9070 XT is 700$ and RX 9070 600$.
 
Is that only time when at msrp ? To me it looks like real msrp for RX 9070 XT is 700$ and RX 9070 600$.
I bought mine for £570, VAT included. The new tariffs messed up everything.
 
Is that only time when at msrp ? To me it looks like real msrp for RX 9070 XT is 700$ and RX 9070 600$.
AMD claim not, retailers claim prices are going up.

I had an MSRP card order cancelled after checkout was complete just so the retailer could immediately relist it for 15% more; This was between 14:00 GMT when the launch officially happened and 14:03 when my completed order was cancelled and Paypal confirmed that the retailer had cancelled the order at 14:01 GMT, less than 60 seconds after launch.

It wasn't a stock issue, it was a retailer scalper issue. Stock at £699 persisted for another two hours after that but I wasn't interested in a $699 9070XT, I was interested in a $569 9070XT.

I'd be salty about it if I was desperate for a graphics card, but I'm not. I already have a 5070Ti, a 7800XT, and a couple of 4060Ti cards at home so it's not really an issue. I appreciate that many people have skipped a generation or two more than they'd have liked due to scalping and poor pricing, so it must be extra irritating that most of the 9070 stock was scalped, botted, or otherwise unavailable at the promised price immediately upon release.

I bought mine for £570, VAT included. The new tariffs messed up everything.
You're in the UK buying a GPU made by a Taiwanese-owned company in China. The US tariffs affect the people in the US importing goods from China, but not Nvidia who export IP to TSMC in Taiwan and then sell from Taiwan to Taiwanese firms like Asus and Sapphire.

The US tariffs shaft people in the US, but that's not a reason to accept scalping of GPUs outside of the US.
 
You're in the UK buying a GPU made by a Taiwanese-owned company in China. The US tariffs affect the people in the US importing goods from China, but not Nvidia who export IP to TSMC in Taiwan and then sell from Taiwan to Taiwanese firms like Asus and Sapphire.

The US tariffs shaft people in the US, but that's not a reason to accept scalping of GPUs outside of the US.
I agree. I wouldn't buy a 9070 XT, or any card for its current price. Better try to regain control over the market than cry about it. We can't manipulate supply, but we can manipulate demand.
 
5060 ti should be around 4070 performance. With a MSRP of 450-480$ and real pricing 100$ higher many people will keep their GPUs longer. :slap:
Best (or worst) part, during black Friday offers I could find a 4070 at 549and 4070 super at 579.
rtx 4070 level of performance for the rtx 5060 ti? my man, the increase in cuda it's about 6% add the frequency and at best you can see around 15% increase in performance or rx 7700 xt level.
as for rtx 5060 = rx 6700 xt + maybe 5%
rtx 5050 = rtx 4060
 
RTX 2060 12GB -> RTX 3060 12GB -> RTX 4060 8GB -> RTX 5060 8GB?
this is what happens when one corporation has a monopoly on the market
A VRAM-cripple ends-up beeing a FPS-cripple sooner or later. Remember this you 6, 8, 10 and 12GB NVidia customers.
At a point, when a behemoth company no longer cares if a particular segment purchase their products or not, basically grants them the license to do what ever they want. Nvidia is going mad with prices, giving you less for more.
Nvidia’s strategy became known with the 40 series. Make the top product extremely powerful and jack the price up.
 
5060ti will be a more efficient 3080 with 16GB. For $449 it would be fine. As for the other two I'll pretend they don't exist.
I am almost sure 5060ti will be 420£
And 16gb version at least 500£
Where else you buy GPU?

Theoreticaly you could get 9070 for 529£
But it was by no means cheap.
More like ok price.

Seems to me there is a lot of people buying PCs plus ai Scalpers and be sure monopol will get evry£ they
 
RTX 2060 12GB -> RTX 3060 12GB -> RTX 4060 8GB -> RTX 5060 8GB?
this is what happens when one corporation has a monopoly on the market
2060 was 6GB, the SUPER was 8GB, and the 12GB variant was released later in Dec 2021? :confused:
 
RTX 2060 12GB -> RTX 3060 12GB -> RTX 4060 8GB -> RTX 5060 8GB?
this is what happens when one corporation has a monopoly on the market
A VRAM-cripple ends-up beeing a FPS-cripple sooner or later. Remember this you 6, 8, 10 and 12GB NVidia customers.
At a point, when a behemoth company no longer cares if a particular segment purchase their products or not, basically grants them the license to do what ever they want. Nvidia is going mad with prices, giving you less for more.
Nvidia’s strategy became known with the 40 series. Make the top product extremely powerful and jack the price up.
Just buy 5060Ti 16GB gpu if u need more Vram.

Also 5060 12Gb is rumored, maybe just super variant or maybe there is no 8Gb 5060 and its 12GB realy
 
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Nvidia positions 5060 ti 16GB quite different to 5060 class prices. even though 8GB of additional VRAM buffer is around $10.
Sure it will be more expensive.

But lets be real here.. u only need to buy GPU once and use it next 2years or longer. and still u can sell it.
its not the most expensive thing in the life,not even close.
Also its 100% optional just like gaming is.

Some ppls just want to get everything very cheap or free... thats also greedy
 
I'm surprised that any of the 5000 series uses the older GDDR6 memory instead of the new memory.

8GB is paltry. It's simply not enough for anything above 1080p gaming.

What's interesting however is the Steam surveys show mst users either have a xx50 or xx60 GPU - not the higher end models.

I'd guess that's because of budget gaming laptops and desktops.
 
I'm surprised that any of the 5000 series uses the older GDDR6 memory instead of the new memory.

8GB is paltry. It's simply not enough for anything above 1080p gaming.

What's interesting however is the Steam surveys show mst users either have a xx50 or xx60 GPU - not the higher end models.

I'd guess that's because of budget gaming laptops and desktops.
Mostly due to laptops I think, but xx50 and xx60 are entry point cards. I'd argue xx50 should be the entry point, 1080p @ 60FPS, and xx60 should be high refresh 1080p, but they aren't unfortunately it seems.

The switch to the older memory was probably because they're already using so much for the higher model cards; I doubt it was part of their original plans (but I obviously dont know that for sure) but I've heard that NVIDIA already bought out most of the GDDR7 memory modules just for the production of 50 series. Could be part of the many reasons why stock is so terrible. (Don't have a source so take that with a ton of salt)
 
Mostly due to laptops I think, but xx50 and xx60 are entry point cards. I'd argue xx50 should be the entry point, 1080p @ 60FPS, and xx60 should be high refresh 1080p, but they aren't unfortunately it seems.

These are desktop GPUs as laptop GPUs are identified separately in the survey. Note the 3060 Laptop, 4050 Laptop, 4060 Laptop, and 4070 Laptop GPUs all having their own entries.

xx60 being an HRR equivalent of a xx50 1080p/60 maybe almost happened once in the past decade, but only if you bend definitions. And iGPUs have replaced the old 50 class anyway.

Using a very lenient definition of high refresh being 100fps, you're asking this 60 series to be 67% faster than the 50 series. Using 120 fps as HRR, that means twice as fast.

Last few '50 series:

The 3060 is only 34% faster than the 3050
The 1660 is only 49% faster than the 1650
The 1060 3GB is 76% faster than the 1050 (beats the lenient definition)
The 1060 6GB is 61% faster than the 1050 Ti (falls short)
The 960 was all of 12% faster than the 950. (oof)
 
These are desktop GPUs as laptop GPUs are identified separately in the survey. Note the 3060 Laptop, 4050 Laptop, 4060 Laptop, and 4070 Laptop GPUs all having their own entries.

xx60 being an HRR equivalent of a xx50 1080p/60 maybe almost happened once in the past decade, but only if you bend definitions. And iGPUs have replaced the old 50 class anyway.

Using a very lenient definition of high refresh being 100fps, you're asking this 60 series to be 67% faster than the 50 series. Using 120 fps as HRR, that means twice as fast.

Last few '50 series:

The 3060 is only 34% faster than the 3050
The 1660 is only 49% faster than the 1650
The 1060 3GB is 76% faster than the 1050 (beats the lenient definition)
The 1060 6GB is 61% faster than the 1050 Ti (falls short)
The 960 was all of 12% faster than the 950. (oof)
'high refresh' was kinda hyperbole of me. I expect the uplift from xx50 to xx60 to be around 30% at least with a price point to match, so for the most part.. its been fine.

iGPU's are debatable. Some of the ones Ryzen has are great, but I don't know if I'd go as far to say as they've replaced the 50 class. Then again, the last one I remember being super impressive was one that was about on par with a 1650 (dont know how long ago that was), my knowledge of iGPU's is very limited.

Also to be fair for the other things; I've had 2 shots of bourbon with nothing on the stomach as I was starting to feel it when I typed that out. My bad.
Drunk Baby GIF
 
if the RTX5050 is worse than my RTX 3050 we need to crucify NVIDIA
 
if the RTX5050 is worse than my RTX 3050 we need to crucify NVIDIA

The laptop 4050 is more than 40% faster than the desktop 3050-6GB.
The regular desktop 3050 8GB is 28% faster than the desktop 3050-6GB.

So a desktop 4050 with similar specs would already be about 10% faster than the desktop 3050 8GB, but with much lower power use.

The article's desktop 5050 specs beat the laptop 4050 in memory bandwidth and especially power limit so it's reasonable to expect the 5050 to be 25-30% faster than the 3050.
 
Please don't come at me when I say this.
I hope Nvidia release a GTX5030 Low Profile card:laugh:.
Seriously GT1030 for Low profile PCs as well as entry/basic use PC hasn't had a successor.
RTX 3050 is trash seriously so hopefully this new RTX 5050 can perform well.

I had a GDDR5 GT 730 1 GB GPU and it was a terrific use for my very first PC build. I called it my Xbox 0.5 gpu as it had half the shader cores of the Xbox One. I have a laptop with a RTX 3060 which is great for the games I play on it.

Then there was the 1030 (2 GB VRAM_ that came out in 2017 followed by the 1630 (4 GB VRAM) in 2022. I was surprised that the 1630 has GDDR6 memory and if there is going to be a 5030 with GDDR6 memory, I'm thinking it will either have 6 GB of VRAM or 8 GB of VRAM.

The 1630 was also a good answer to the Steam Deck given that it had the same number of shader cores but about 100 Mhz faster clock than the Steam Deck. My guess is that the 5030 would have either 640 (like my old GTX 1050) or 768 shader cores (like the 1050 Ti). Speed would be over 2Ghz (should be at least 2.5 GHz) in that case which would get it closer to the PC gaming handhelds (have a Legion Go and the iGPU can hit 2700 Mhz).

The 3050 seems to be similar to the Xbox Series S specs especially the GDDR6, memory speed, and bandwidth. The rumored 5050 specs have GDDR6, same bandwidth as the 3050, and less CUDA cores than the 3050 but the memory speed is closer to the PS5's memory speed.

And back to the 5030, I just discovered that there is a GTX 4010 which has 768 CUDA cores...basically a faster Xbox One gpu. Perhaps the 5030 will have half the cores of the 5050 and that even makes the 5050 look even more garbage. The 5030 in that case would have the same number of shader cores as the Xbox Series S. 5050 has the same number of shader cores as the PS5 and similar memory speed but half the bandwidth at 224 GB/s.

I main in fighting games and Street Fighter 6's recommended specs list the 2070 which has 448 GB/s just like the PS5 (min is the GTX 1060). The 5060 would fit the bill for a next generation minimum spec build but I believe the 5070 would be a better fit for that. My RTX 3060M gets the job done for this generation's fighting games so I have no need for the RTX 50 cards.

I don't think the entire RTX 50 cards are worth buying and I would tell anyone to wait for the RTX 60 cards.
 
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