NVIDIA GeForce Titan X 12 GB

[qubit]

It sounds like you're talking about nvidia's ethics then? Yeah, there's a question mark over that too. The recent 970 scandal is a good example.

I wouldn't take either card and as I've said elsewhere in this thread, I'm disappointed with the Titan X in a number of ways. Also, you're comparing a dual GPU card with a single GPU one, but it takes an incredibly powerful single GPU to overcome a dual one, which normally takes a couple of generations from either company. Also, there's significant value in having a single GPU card of either brand, because it doesn't have issues such as microstuttering (usually), multi-GPU scaling, plus lower power consumption and heat output and the frame buffer isn't effectively halved in size. Hence, your example isn't valid.

 

[Ruby Rabbit]

Great Review!! Thank you! @ Wizard You are the only site that offers such a wide variety of GPU benchmarks. For me I wanted to see the GTX690 benchmark comparison. Thanks

If I can make a suggestion. I cannot find a site that does benchmarks @ 3440x1440. The ultra wide is a popular res now. I had a 4k monitor liked the photos, but terrible for gaming (GPU chokes). So I went with a Dell U3415w. The immersion for gaming is frankly the best I have experienced 34" @ 3440x1440. Personally I think it is is the sweat spot for less of a GPU hit than 4K and only a few scaling issues. In fact its just amazing all round. (First time I watched videos on my PC- now I am loving it)

So if you could do titan x benchmark @ 3440x1440 you will be first!!! Hopefully it brings some new fans. Your great review and GPU spectrum got me to sign up!

Now decision time will the Titan X get me back to full ultra glory @ 3440 x 1440. I think it will? (minus the stuttering I get on the GTX690 due to the 2gb Vram

 

[the54thvoid]

If I can make a suggestion. I cannot find a site that does benchmarks @ 3440x1440. The ultra wide is a popular res now.

Without sounding too cheeky - no it isn't. It's quite a rare res to use and it shows in the sales figures and how many 3440x1440 res monitors there are out there. A tremendous amount of users still use 1080p, not even 1440p.

I'm sure someone who isn't about to go to work can find the stats!

 

[Sony Xperia S]

This Titan X is not going to sell, I think not at all.

Look at what nvidia does cause to the market:

Global graphics card shipments in 1Q15 to fall 20-25%, say Taiwan vendors

http://digitimes.com/news/a20150319PD219.html

Can you even imagine how serious this is?!

As someone correctly said: they would prefer to keep the inventories rotting in landfills rather than selling them for margins lower than 50%.

 

[Animalpak]

999 dollar price is a lie.

Here in Switzerland is priced 1350 dollars and the Gigabyte one is 1690 dollars.

And for 1890 dollars you get the Titan Z

 

[qubit]

This Titan X is not going to sell, I think not at all.

I think you might be right there. Think about it, the previous versions had full-power FP64 capability to differentiate them from the GTX version while this doesn't. Slapping a ridiculous 12GB RAM on it to justify the inflated price just won't cut it.

UK prices range from about £870 to £950. Got mine on pre-order now.

 

[haswrong]

the positive side is the 12 gigs of vram. i welcome that attitude. this removes any current and near future limitations in the area and makes it rady for recursive raytracing techniques. but the lack of dp cant justify 999 bucks.. in my opinion. if its a gamers card, give it a gamers price tag.. or maybe im becoming too old for this gpu world, heh.. seems its all about money, but im not. cheers.

 

[bpgt64]

Am I insane to want to drop two GTX 980s for this? I am sick of SLi not working on games like DayZ, but I want to keep Gsync/4k. I am willing to give up Ultra for High settings no AA to get this.

 

[qubit]

Am I insane to want to drop two GTX 980s for this? I am sick of SLi not working on games like DayZ, but I want to keep Gsync/4k. I am willing to give up Ultra for High settings no AA to get this.

Yes, you are!

Wait for the GTX version with a much more reasonable price and get that.

 

[64K]

Am I insane to want to drop two GTX 980s for this? I am sick of SLi not working on games like DayZ, but I want to keep Gsync/4k. I am willing to give up Ultra for High settings no AA to get this.

Well, most people including W1zzard say AA on 4K isn't necessary.
I agree with qubit. Wait a few months for the gaming only version of GM200. It will almost certainly be faster. Then when Big Pascal GP200 comes out grab one of those and sell the Maxwell and you should be set for single GPU at 4K.

 

[bpgt64]

Well, most people including W1zzard say AA on 4K isn't necessary.
I agree with qubit. Wait a few months for the gaming only version of GM200. It will almost certainly be faster. Then when Big Pascal GP200 comes out grab one of those and sell the Maxwell and you should be set for single GPU at 4K.

See the thing is that is the gaming only version...It doesn't have the same Double Prec point as the original titan. So it's applicability to being a Tesla card replacement is limited, other than the massive frame buffer.

 

[64K]

See the thing is that is the gaming only version...It doesn't have the same Double Prec point as the original titan. So it's applicability to being a Tesla card replacement is limited, other than the massive frame buffer.

I know what you're saying and this very well could turn out to be the high end Maxwell gaming card. I don't think so and here's why. There could be another card design with 6 GB VRAM. It would cost less to manufacture and so it could be sold for less. It would use less watts and those watts could be used to bump up the clocks for the same 250 watts. Allowing it's board partners to use non-reference coolers would keep the GPU from throttling after 1 minute of game play and offer greater overclocking potential. And finally, it will be ~1 year before Pascal and I don't see Nvidia waiting that long before another high end release besides the probable dual GPU Titan but all of this is just speculation on my part.

 

[Sony Xperia S]

Wait for the GTX version with a much more reasonable price and get that.

Wait a few months for the gaming only version of GM200.

How do you think that GTX would be called? GTX 980 Ti?

Well, I think NOO!

Then when Big Pascal GP200 comes out grab one of those and sell the Maxwell and you should be set for single GPU at 4K.

First, GP100 and then possibly GP200.

 

[bpgt64]

I know what you're saying and this very well could turn out to be the high end Maxwell gaming card. I don't think so and here's why. There could be another card design with 6 GB VRAM. It would cost less to manufacture and so it could be sold for less. It would use less watts and those watts could be used to bump up the clocks for the same 250 watts. Allowing it's board partners to use non-reference coolers would keep the GPU from throttling after 1 minute of game play and offer greater overclocking potential. And finally, it will be ~1 year before Pascal and I don't see Nvidia waiting that long before another high end release besides the probable dual GPU Titan but all of this is just speculation on my part.

There's always going to be a better card in the future, that's..kinda of inevitable. There likely will be a 980 Ti, but my bet is it's not the same Cuda core count as Titan, It might have been, if this Titan X was going to wind up being like the first one, where it was a Cheap Tesla version, but the change in DP value to me signify they won't easily cannibalize this card like that did with 780 Ti. A 980 Ti to me is much more likely to be a 256mb bus with 8gb vram, but a mid way point between the Titan X and 980 in terms of core/rop count.

 

[qubit]

How do you think that GTX would be called? GTX 980 Ti?

Well, I think NOO!

I have no idea what they will call it, other than it will likely start with "GTX". What do you think they will call it?

 

[Sony Xperia S]

I have no idea what they will call it, other than it will likely start with "GTX". What do you think they will call it?

I think there should be no other GTX.

When R9 390X appears, its competition performance wise will be Titan X itself.
If you unveil a castrated 980 Ti to fill the gap between Titan X and 980, it will not be enough for anything.

 

[64K]

How do you think that GTX would be called? GTX 980 Ti?

Well, I think NOO!



First, GP100 and then possibly GP200.

I would be surprised if Nvidia called the gaming version of GM200 a GTX 980 Ti. That could cause people to think of it as a faster 980 which it's not. The 980 is an upper mid range GM204 Mawell GPU and not a high end GM200 Maxwell GPU. That's probably why Nvidia didn't call the 780 a 680 Ti.
Yes GP100 will probably come first but for bpgt64 to run a single GPU at ultra ~60 FPS on 4K in almost all games then the GP200 would be the best choice.

There's always going to be a better card in the future, that's..kinda of inevitable. There likely will be a 980 Ti, but my bet is it's not the same Cuda core count as Titan, It might have been, if this Titan X was going to wind up being like the first one, where it was a Cheap Tesla version, but the change in DP value to me signify they won't easily cannibalize this card like that did with 780 Ti. A 980 Ti to me is much more likely to be a 256mb bus with 8gb vram, but a mid way point between the Titan X and 980 in terms of core/rop count.

Well, the gaming version of Kepler GK110 the GTX 780 Ti had more cores than the original Titan and it was faster. We'll see in a few months but I'm thinking it will have the same number of cores but higher clocks.
I know there's always going to be something better on the horizon. What I was getting at is the GP200 Pascal will probably be the first single GPU that can handle 4K at Ultra settings ~60 FPS in almost all games.

 

[Sony Xperia S]

I would be surprised if Nvidia called the gaming version of GM200 a GTX 980 Ti. That could cause people to think of it as a faster 980 which it's not. The 980 is an upper mid range GM204 Mawell GPU and not a high end GM200 Maxwell GPU. That's probably why Nvidia didn't call the 780 a 680 Ti.
Yes GP100 will probably come first but for bpgt64 to run a single GPU at ultra ~60 FPS on 4K in almost all games then the GP200 would be the best choice.



Well, the gaming version of Kepler GK110 the GTX 780 Ti had more cores than the original Titan and it was faster. We'll see in a few months but I'm thinking it will have the same number of cores but higher clocks.
I know there's always going to be something better on the horizon. What I was getting at is the GP200 Pascal will probably be the first single GPU that can handle 4K at Ultra settings ~60 FPS in almost all games.

Sorry. The gaming version of GM200 is already the titan. It's useless for professional and compute tasks.

 

[bpgt64]

I think there should be no other GTX.

When R9 390X appears, its competition performance wise will be Titan X itself.
If you unveil a castrated 980 Ti to fill the gap between Titan X and 980, it will not be enough for anything.

I am all in with Nvidia at the moment, Acer XBO268HK 28 inch 4k monitor with Gsync. So that's not an option, even if it's faster/cheaper. Gsync is way to sexy, and I'd have to buy another monitor.

 

[xorbe]

This Titan X is not going to sell, I think not at all.

I do note that there is a lot less Titan X forum chit chat (various forums) in general than when Titan debuted. OTOH, it's a known thing this time around.

 

[haswrong]

I have no idea what they will call it, other than it will likely start with "GTX". What do you think they will call it?

heres some idea: BFG Titan XXX http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-098-BG&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1576

 

[Sony Xperia S]

heres some idea: BFG Titan XXX http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-098-BG&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1576

April 1st?

They should have called it XXL with 16.9 GB.

 

[the54thvoid]

I do note that there is a lot less Titan X forum chit chat (various forums) in general than when Titan debuted. OTOH, it's a known thing this time around.

Well, this is third time around, Titan, Black (I suppose Z too) and now X.

Also, 390X leaks have gone too. I genuinely would like to see more.

As for BPGT64, I'd stick with 980's till Summer, make a better choice then. I've learned to not buy new top line Nv stuff but it's taken years to avoid the bug.

 

[HumanSmoke]

This Titan X is not going to sell, I think not at all.
Look at what nvidia does cause to the market:
Global graphics card shipments in 1Q15 to fall 20-25%, say Taiwan vendors
http://digitimes.com/news/a20150319PD219.html
Can you even imagine how serious this is?!

More serious for some than others. Nvidia's present market share is 76% of the discrete market. That is tipped to rise to 80% in the present quarter. A big part of the decrease in shipments is because AMD have stopped shipping many SKUs to AIB/AIC/OEMs
AMD stops shipping chips as bloated channel begs 'Please, no more'

The previous two quarters were buoyed by sales of the then new GTX 960, 970, and 980. That sales push is now past, so it should be expected that with no new volume parts being launched, shipments should fall back.

 

[bpgt64]

Well, this is third time around, Titan, Black (I suppose Z too) and now X.

Also, 390X leaks have gone too. I genuinely would like to see more.

As for BPGT64, I'd stick with 980's till Summer, make a better choice then. I've learned to not buy new top line Nv stuff but it's taken years to avoid the bug.

I know very well, it could be a big mistake, but that's what buying tech always entails. My thing is, I never use AA at 4k. I almost didn't buy a second 980, and was willing to use one at medium settings. This proves to me, that I could get away with 1 card for a very long time at 4k. As DX12 will need years to mature.