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NVIDIA Unveils GeForce GTX 1070 with GDDR5X Memory

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It's called the faster Vega 56 and 64. The former of which has sunk to, and below, MSRP here in the UK. Vega 56 can be had for £350 + free games.
Vega 56 msrp is $399 and about the same in €. £350 is what, 390€ or so? :)
Source for the 1080 boards being used in GTX 1060 or 1070 :confused:
Many - if not most - custom 1070/1070Ti cards from AIBs are using the same boards as 1080.
 
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This is getting ridiculous both Nvdia and AMD in GPU sector.I really hope Intel succeeds and be competitive in GPU sector or we are left with these two making mockery of us consumers.not that Intel is a saint but competition is good.
 
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Which brings up another interesting question: are the prices of Turing so high only because NVIDIA is greedy, or was this writedown cost already factored into them from the start?
This is Nvidia, It wont be an either/or choice. They'll be looking to make more money from both ends.
 
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I'm losing my hope for humanity. We get a decent bump in memory throughput, and people rant about it like it's a bad thing.
 
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Yup. Been happy with mine since day one.

And as for using better memory on an old card, can someone explain why that is a bad thing? Look, here is item 'A' which we now sell with a better component. As long as price doesn't inflate.
Using faster memory is a win, win for the end user(s). You have a choice to either up the clock or keep the same clock & lower the timings. Either way the GPU core will perform better.
 
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I'm losing my hope for humanity. We get a decent bump in memory throughput, and people rant about it like it's a bad thing.
This isn't a choice, for Nvidia or Micron. They have to use the GDDR5x, otherwise someone somewhere will have to write off a lot of unused inventory.
Sure you could argue about the mining boom/bust but this situation was kinda avoidable & if it were avoided, who knows we might've seen better prices for RTX.
 
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Source for the 1080 boards being used in GTX 1060 or 1070 :confused:
If you look at the custom cards they have the SLI fingers at the top, some with a sticker over them saying that SLI is not supported. If you remove the heat sink you see that the board is identical in more ways than that.
 
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This isn't a choice, for Nvidia or Micron.
It does not really matter whether it's a choice or not, and what were the circumstances. The end result is an upgrade with either small or no price increase for the end-user.
The same story happened on few occasions, like with several revisions of GT730, or long-forgotten GTX650Ti [boost], or the recent GTX1060 but in all cases people find justification for complaints.

If it was something along the lines of GT1030 DDR4, or GTX970 misinformation, or recent shenanigans with an entire Polaris refresh lineup, then it's worth complaining about.
 
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This is getting out of control. . .
 
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It does not really matter whether it's a choice or not, and what were the circumstances. The end result is an upgrade with either small or no price increase for the end-user.
The same story happened on few occasions, like with several revisions of GT730, or long-forgotten GTX650Ti [boost], or the recent GTX1060 but in all cases people find justification for complaints.

If it was something along the lines of GT1030 DDR4, or GTX970 misinformation, or recent shenanigans with an entire Polaris refresh lineup, then it's worth complaining about.
I think the pain is in the overall lack of progress, and these refreshes are just examples of it. Yes its free performance, in a rare edge case, maybe you will win 2% and in most others its completely irrelevant (remember the 1070ti running on GDDR5...). Its also the same price/perf as it was 3 years ago.

650ti boost for example was launched in a very lively GPU landscape, closely followed by a Kepler Refresh that pushed the GTX 680 to a lower price point with faster memory. At the same time, the 650ti boost performed like a 660 but at the cost of a 650ti. These GDDR5X GPUs won't be making any sort of jump like that, and they are visibly handicapped to make them slower. If Nvidia had clocked the memory at its stock 10Gb I think the noise would be a whole lot different.

Right now you can see them putting effort in handicapping performance, almost 3 years after the fact... That is something else and if there is one thing it isn't, its 'for the gamers'. Being the optimist in saying 'but its free performance' is... well, being overly optimistic in my opinion. This performance isn't free at all, the price is too high to begin with. Especially when you know these chips and boards could have become 1080's that compete with a more expensive RTX alternative.
 
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Well I'm more interested to see what gpu chip it has. Is it mining gpu GP104-100-A1 or vanilla gtx1070 gpu GP104-200-A1. Funny thing with NVIDIA P104-100 mining card is that it has 8x8Gb 10Gbps GDDR5X memory chips but 4GB memory by bios. If one could get these biosses to those mining cards, would they work as normal video cards with full memory?
 
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Poopscal with faster memory is still Poopscal. Except the memory isn't even faster out of the box. Huh.
Huh, someone's mad. Does it bother you so much that Nvidia are this successful?
 
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I'm losing my hope for humanity. We get a decent bump in memory throughput, and people rant about it like it's a bad thing.
Not to mention news piece says it's under clocked to 8Gbps, so it's changes nothing on stock. But the the memory OC potential should be massive on this.
 
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Another issue with Vega is that a lot of its AIB versions are hit or miss. If you don't have one of the great ones, you have a shitty one. And guess what, the nice ones do cost more. Then factor in the power draw gap across a few years of light gaming and *poof* price difference gone.
Not sure if this is really the case with Vega AIBs to be honest. The Sapphire 64 is undeniably the best build there is, as is usually the case with their AMD cards, but there is essentially no difference whether you'll get a Pulse or Nitro 56 in terms of performance and OC or price for that matter.

Meanwhile the Gigabyte 56 is being offered for 10% less than the Sapphire cards, but again there's no difference in performance whatsoever, while currently their 64 is the same price as a Nitro, with obviously worse build. Yet, while it has worse quality cooling, mine GB64 (card size was a priority when I bought it) runs at 1.7ghz with 1045mhz HBM2 and sticks to its BIOS temp values like a champ...

Doesn't seem like much of a clear cut difference b/n great and shitty ones to be honest, especially if you factor the prices in.
 
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If you look at the custom cards they have the SLI fingers at the top, some with a sticker over them saying that SLI is not supported. If you remove the heat sink you see that the board is identical in more ways than that.
Yeah that is a problem gtx1060s with gp104 chip, gtx1070 supports sli on the beginning so with these it does not matter.
 
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I'm losing my hope for humanity. We get a decent bump in memory throughput, and people rant about it like it's a bad thing.
Some red guards would br happy if Nvidia gave 1070 slower VRAM and sell it higher.

You can’t convince brain dead fans.
 
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This is getting ridiculous both Nvdia and AMD in GPU sector.I really hope Intel succeeds and be competitive in GPU sector or we are left with these two making mockery of us consumers.not that Intel is a saint but competition is good.
Right now, Intel hasn’t done much of anything, even with its own iGPUs, and those are tiny compared to high-end GPUs. What you can buy today does a great job at 1080p and 1440p, and even 4K is a possibility. If you want something like 8K, well, I hate to think how many transistors will be needed to game at such resolution, but however you look at it, that would get really expensive. I just don’t see Intel arriving to save the day anytime soon, and even if they did, they would charge Nvidia prices. AMD probably has a top-flight team of engineers in their GPU wing, and they don’t have an answer for Nvidia yet. It’s all uphill at Intel.

I'm losing my hope for humanity. We get a decent bump in memory throughput, and people rant about it like it's a bad thing.
I’d like to see this memory on a RX 590. Reviews suggest it’s probably starving for bandwidth with its high GPU clocks buy only 256bit interface.
 
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Just remember guys Cryptocurrency "Sales" only accounted for a few percent ;)

"NVIDIA's crypto revenues accounted for 7% and 3% of its second and third quarter revenues, respectively, so we can assume that percentage remains in the low single digits. Yet NVIDIA's total revenues rose 56% annually during the second quarter, 32% during the third quarter, and another 34% during the fourth quarter -- fueled by the strength of its gaming, professional visualization, and data center businesses. "
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/04/17/nvidias-cryptocurrency-business-isnt-that-importan.aspx
 

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Source for the 1080 boards being used in GTX 1060 or 1070 :confused:
Scroll down the news section for ten seconds and you'll find it.
 

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Now I'm just waiting for the GTX1070 Ti w/ GDDR5X. That I'll definitely buy!
 
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Some red guards would br happy if Nvidia gave 1070 slower VRAM and sell it higher.

You can’t convince brain dead fans.
The only thing red here is that -1 next to your comment. Are you collecting them lately?
 
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Heya. Did you make an account just to say that? :)


There is an alternative. It's called the faster Vega 56 and 64. The former of which has sunk to, and below, MSRP here in the UK. Vega 56 can be had for £350 + free games. It's faster than 1070 in essentially everything with an exception to some horrifically NVIDIA favouring engines.
Lol, amd shill comes to advertise DOA space heater
I’d rather buy Pascal card again, if I needed one.
 
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So, that's what Maxwell cards were, right, as that's where perf/w of Vega roughly is?

That delusional underdog hate is so pathetic.
 
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