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Official Statement from AMD on the PCI-Express Overcurrent Issue

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Thought it might be useful to cross-link to the review commentary thread, as The Stilt has managed to find a way to instruct the power controller to redistribute power draw via software (see original thread on OCN here).

The effect is not huge, but it is significant enough to alleviate the problem, especially when combined with undervolting and/or underclocking the card.

I think we can let the issue rest now, knowing it's fully manageable. But we should definitely continue to investigate every aspect of performance - including detailed insight into power draw - of all future VGAs under review.
For me it wasn't a question if it was possible. I was pretty sure it was. I just wondered why it wasn't done so that there could NOT be any questions.

But in the end, kudos to AMD for listening to the grumbling and doing something about it. This shows that they are committed to addressing user concerns, and truly care what people think about their products. Doing this driver change costs them money. Yet I want AMD, and yet, all companies, to adhere to specifications of supporting parts 100%. Spec says 75W, you don't overstep it one bit, and now they give the end user the options!
 
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"If you trust your PSU". If PSU is so shit it can't handle more than 75W on a PCIe power connector, then you better not use it entirely because it's so shit it'll most likely blow up by itself.
There are probably more sh!ty PSUs out there than sh!ty new motherboards. I have shown a link for a 600W PSU in one of my posts, that was costing about $20-$25. PSUs based on ancient designs with many ambers at 3.3V and 5V lines. Perfect for systems that still run Athlon XPs. Believe me, plenty of people will buy the best cpu, motherboard, ram, graphics card and when they reach the final part of their system, the PSU, they will start feeling they already spend too much money on their new set up and will go for the cheaper PSU they see available.

I believe that's why AMD chose to pull more power through the PCIe bus than the 6pin. Also as I said before, the same people making motherboards, also make RX 480 graphics cards. I wouldn't believe ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI would be willing to start selling graphics cards that they can kill their own motherboards.

This shows that they are committed to addressing user concerns, and truly care what people think about their products. Doing this driver change costs them money.
And they are paying for it. Every time they come out and say "We hear you, we are fixing it", people add one more example of AMD messing up in their list. On the other hand Nvidia keeps it's mouth SHUT, it reacts like nothing is happening, and only talks about a problem AFTER releasing a fix. If it is something they can't fix, they just don't talk much about it. That way the problems looks like normal bugs, nothing to talk about, keeping Nvidia's reputation about excellent driver support mostly intact.

AMD is like the honest little person panicking when someone is telling him he made a mistake.
Nvidia is like the politician, never admitting there is a problem, or downplaying the significance of that problem.
 
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AMD is like the honest little person panicking when someone is telling him he made a mistake.
Nvidia is like the politician, never admitting there is a problem, or downplaying the significance of that problem.
That is the ugly truth, here.
 

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"If you trust your PSU". If PSU is so shit it can't handle more than 75W on a PCIe power connector, then you better not use it entirely because it's so shit it'll most likely blow up by itself.
See the thing is, you are an enthusiast, most people out there go buy a pre-built system, they probably don't even know what PSU they have in it, OK maybe the wattage but not the quality or even the amperage and the only upgrades they are ever likely to do to that system is either throwing some extra ram in a slot or upgrading the graphics card, in some respects the 480 is exactly for them.... an affordable good performing solution.
 
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What's the chance of such people going for RX480 in the first place? People like this buy garbage like RX410 (I made this up), not a 200 dollar mid end card...
 

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What's the chance of such people going for RX480 in the first place? People like this buy garbage like RX410 (I made this up), not a 200 dollar mid end card...
Well, when they want to play modern games on a 7 year old system with a dual core CPU some will think that is the answer and that is all my point is, there will be a market in part due to ignorance.
 
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Steve Burke tries to burn a cheap motherboard PCIE lane using the RX 480 8GB with original driver:


 
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brand new cheap board should not have the burning issue, older ones like those first gen Core Series boards are more likely to get burned IMO...
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Steve Burke tries to burn a cheap motherboard PCIE lane using the RX 480 8GB with original driver:


Jesus.. Cliff's notes please? That shit is 15m long.............

JFC, what a waste.. he doesn't even test it in the video, did you watch it yourself before you linked it????????????????????
 
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