Old hardware question

Chloe Price · Dec 16, 2019

Q6600 & 8GB. When running stock, Q9400 is only 266MHz faster (2.66GHz vs 2.4GHz) but has less cache (2x3MB vs 2x4MB).

holyprof · Dec 17, 2019

As someone who have used both CPUs: my own with Q6600 / 8GB DDR800 RAM and in the office: Q9400 / 4GB DDR800 RAM with better timings,
I can assure you the system with 8GB was much faster in everything including: word processing, Excel, image processing (GIMP), video editing (the 10-15% cpu power advantage can't make up for lack of RAM) and gaming. Only things the office Q9400 PC beat mine was in synthetic CPU benchmarks that fit into the 3GB free RAM it had.
That was back in 2006. Now the operating system alone needs approx 2GB (at the time, windows XP was fine with 300MB) and most applications including browsers are much more memory hungry, and the webpages are much, much heavier than they used to be in 2006.
At the moment, my PC has only 2 tabs in firefox with nothing else running (not even antivirus) and allocated memory is 4.7GB (operating system + browser + disk cache). On the 4GB system you will already be experiencing swappig to disk and feel your PC slow and unresponsive.

revin · Dec 17, 2019

Back in my early days here there was a LOT of testing that I helped in with<P4EE3.4> and then my Q6700 and the ole Bliss and then the HD38xx and even up to 16Gb of ram it was Really sweet. But most of it was 4x2 Gb of killer 2.2.2.5 stix which I may end up tossing together the stuff for my grandson to fool around with.
And YES it did run Crysis :toast:

Go with more RAM you wont regret it

PooPipeBoy · Dec 17, 2019

8GB of RAM is the way to go, however I found that running four RAM sticks does affect overclocking stability. Although who cares, overclocking is more of a bonus than a requirement. I'm using a laptop right now with 8GB of RAM and even doing office work uses more than 4GB.

E-Bear · Dec 18, 2019

System is build and ready to go to good family.

rk3066 · Dec 18, 2019

Hmm might go to back 4GB (2x2) as if the 8GB (2X4) Could cause issues. Thanks for the tip but my system has the ASUS P5Q-EM though has the Xeon E5450 Modded CPU but Wish me Luck

Liquid Cool · Dec 18, 2019

I used to run those OEM boards from HP when I had no money. Not too long ago either. If it was mine, I'd just grab the Q6600, 8GB's of memory, a cheap SSD, and an NVS 300 graphics card with one of these psu's. I never used a case.

That combo got me through some pretty tough times(not that I"m doing any better now...

).

Best of Luck E-Bear...

,

Liquid Cool

lexluthermiester · Dec 18, 2019

E-Bear said:
System is build and ready to go to good family.

So what did you end up with?

rk3066 said:
Hmm might go to back 4GB (2x2) as if the 8GB (2X4) Could cause issues. Thanks for the tip but my system has the ASUS P5Q-EM though has the Xeon E5450 Modded CPU but Wish me Luck

According to ASUS, that board should be able to handle upto 16GB of ram;

P5Q-EM | Motherboards | ASUS Global

www.asus.com

rk3066 · Dec 18, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
So what did you end up with?

According to ASUS, that board should be able to handle upto 16GB of ram;

P5Q-EM | Motherboards | ASUS Global

www.asus.com

I know that I was just referring to the overclock. If the 2x8 was the issue but guess not I'd assume

Chloe Price · Dec 18, 2019

Also 4GB DDR2 DIMMs weren't really a thing for us consumers.

lexluthermiester · Dec 19, 2019

rk3066 said:
I know that I was just referring to the overclock. If the 2x8 was the issue but guess not I'd assume

Oh, I see what you're saying.

E-Bear · Dec 19, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
So what did you end up with?

According to ASUS, that board should be able to handle upto 16GB of ram;

P5Q-EM | Motherboards | ASUS Global

www.asus.com

Q6600 8 gigs ddr2 800 Thermaltake 430w, wd green sata2 16m 1 terrabyte and i put them windows 7

rk3066 · Dec 19, 2019

I can almost say Windows 7 even after the January 21st isn't going anywhere anytime soon. So many customization and modifications for the OS. Even after the date it'll probably still get updates regardless what MS says. mean I have my 775 Build with Windows 7 with modified themes and a boot logo (fish cycle

) just All this makes W7 great

I will edit this post with the theme, program to allow themes to Apply (you'll have to copy the theme to Windows / Resource Folder) and the program to allow wallpaper to the login screen

SOON... LINK

Chloe Price · Dec 19, 2019

Win2000 2003-2005
WinXP 2005-2009
Win7 2009-2015
Win8.1 2015
Win10 2015 ->

Not using 7 anymore (at least in systems connected to the interwebz), just because of its age.

lexluthermiester · Dec 19, 2019

E-Bear said:
Q6600 8 gigs ddr2 800 Thermaltake 430w, wd green sata2 16m 1 terrabyte

Intel IGP or did you give them a video card?

E-Bear said:
i put them windows 7

As far as Windows 7 goes, I'm a big fan. However, I'm also an expert/power user and know how to protect myself from threats on the net when support expires next month. These folks you're giving that PC to aren't going to have the same knowledge and skill. It might be best to get them Windows 10. Win10 Keys are dead cheap these days and are fully legit;

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johnspack · Dec 19, 2019

Back in the day, I replaced my trusty e8400 with a q9450 at one point. Couldn't oc it as much, but the 4 cores made up for it. And also instead of win7, have you considered kubuntu?
It looks much like older windows with a start menu. Also lubuntu, which will run in 500mbs ram and also looks like windows. With wine it will run most older win apps and games.

E-Bear · Dec 20, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
Intel IGP or did you give them a video card?

As far as Windows 7 goes, I'm a big fan. However, I'm also an expert/power user and know how to protect myself from threats on the net when support expires next month. These folks you're giving that PC to aren't going to have the same knowledge and skill. It might be best to get them Windows 10. Win10 Keys are dead cheap these days and are fully legit;

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As we head closer to Xmas, the Holiday spirit grows and so do shipping times, but not for digital goods! URCDKeys says that's never too late to stuff your virtual stockings with genuine, globally-valid software. With discounts as deep as 90% we can hardly argue with them. It's a great...

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So buy me one key and send to me in PM. I will gladly install it for them.

johnspack said:
Back in the day, I replaced my trusty e8400 with a q9450 at one point. Couldn't oc it as much, but the 4 cores made up for it. And also instead of win7, have you considered kubuntu?
It looks much like older windows with a start menu. Also lubuntu, which will run in 500mbs ram and also looks like windows. With wine it will run most older win apps and games.

If I need replace the OS I will go with Zorin 15 which is a copy of Windows 7 but with baseof Linux.

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Processor	Intel Core 2 Quad Q9500 @ 3.61GHz
Motherboard	Asus P5Q Pro
Cooling	Zalman CNPS 7700 AlCu
Memory	8GB DDR2-850
Video Card(s)	GeForce GTX 980 Ti
Storage	Sandisk 120GB, Samsung 256GB & 3x Kingston A400 480GB SSD + WD 2TB HDD
Display(s)	Viewsonic 24" 1080p & HP 23" 1080p w/ Arctic Z2 gen3
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400S w/ mesh front panel
Audio Device(s)	Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus+ Gold 750W
Mouse	Logitech G400s
Keyboard	Dell Multimedia Pro keyboard
Software	Windows 10 Pro English

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Processor	Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard	MSI X470 Gaming Plus
Cooling	Hyper 212 Black Edition
Memory	32GB DDR4 3200 CL16
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX1080 Hybrid
Storage	1TB M.2 NVME + 480GB M2 SATA + 1TB 2.5" SSD
Display(s)	24" IPS 2560x1440
Case	NZXT H500i
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar U3
Power Supply	Corsair TX650M
Mouse	Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB
Keyboard	Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L

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Processor	Intel i7 2600K @5.0'ish 24/7 stock core Voltage {5.2 w/102 bCLK}
Motherboard	Intel Extreme DZ68BC SkullTrail Z68 Cougerpoint, Excellent MCH !
Cooling	Scythe NINJA PLUS Rev.B[skt478] Modded to 1155 Scythe SH12 fan
Memory	Samsung 32nm 16Gb 4x4 (@19xxmhz} low profile[ better than 2133 banwidth]
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX980Ti Gaming / EVGA Titan SC
Storage	Intel 512 SSD, Toshiba 3Tbx2,Hitachi 320,1TBx2,'Cuda 400 7200.10, WD1TBUSB,moved to SATA
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Case	CoolerMaster HAF 932
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Power Supply	Seasonic X750 @ 24/7
Mouse	Logictech G300s
Keyboard	Saitek Cyborg v7
Software	Windows 7 ROG E3 X64 by Neuropass/tweakscene
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Processor	Xeon E5450 4.0GHz 1.35v / Xeon E5320 3.0GHz 1.28v
Motherboard	Gigabyte P35 DS3P / Gigabyte P35 DS3P
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 13 / Coolermaster Hyper T4
Memory	Hynix 4GB DDR2 800 / Hynix 4GB DDR2 800
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX 650 1GB / Asus R9 270X DirectCUII
Storage	Crucial BX500 240GB / Crucial BX500 240GB
Case	Zalman Z11 Plus / Non-Descript
Power Supply	Thermaltake RX550 / Aywun Megapower 750
Software	Windows XP Pro / Windows 7 Ultimate

System Name	HP Pavilion a6552f
Processor	Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
Motherboard	Asus IPIBL-LB / HP Benicia-GL8E
Cooling	DeepCool Gammaxx 200
Memory	8gigs Kingston 4x2gigs DDR2-800
Video Card(s)	Zotac GT630 "Fermi" 2gb DDR3 128bits Synergy Edition
Storage	Western Digital Green 7200rpm 1tb
Display(s)	LG Flatron EW234 Super LED
Case	HP Pavilion
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Thermaltake TR2 430w
Mouse	Razer Abyssus Mirror Special Edition Blue LED
Keyboard	Thermaltake Tt eSPORTS Commander Red LED Backlighting Mechanical Keycaps Membrane Gaming Keyboard
Software	Windows 7 Home Premium 64bits

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Processor	I3 3.5GHZ (3150) \| Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60)
Motherboard	ASRock B85M-ITX \| ASUS P5Q-EM
Cooling	stock \| 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory	8GB DDR3 \| 8GB DDR2
Video Card(s)	AMD 5450 \| XFX GTX750Ti 2GB
Storage	120GB SSD 1TB WD \| 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD <<
Display(s)	DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 \| ASUS 24" LCD IPS
Case	CoolerMaster 110 \| RoseWill ZIRCON
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Rosewill 610WATT \| Rosewill 550WATT
Mouse	Input-Director\| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard	Input-Director \| RoseWill FUSION
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

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Processor	Rockchip RK-3288 1.8ghz quad core
Motherboard	GPD Q9_V6_150528
Cooling	Passive
Memory	2GB DDR3
Video Card(s)	Mali T764
Storage	16GB Samsung NAND
Display(s)	IPS 1024x600

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Motherboard	Asus P9X79 Pro
Cooling	Noctua NH-D14/7case fans
Memory	32gb Gskill 1866 Cas9
Video Card(s)	EVGA FTW GTX 980 Ti ACX 2.0+
Storage	Toshiba 3TB, x300 Toshiba 5TB, 2x EVO 850 250GB, 2x EVO 860 500GB, LG 14x Blu-Ray Rewriter
Display(s)	24" LG 24GL600F 144HZ, 23" Asus VZ239H IPS
Case	Antec 1200
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar MKII+ AKG Q701 Studio Monitors
Power Supply	XFX XTR 750 Gold
Mouse	Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum
Keyboard	Ducky One 2 RGB
Software	Kubuntu 20.04
Benchmark Scores	It's linux baby!

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