OMG! Xigmatek HDT-S1283 vs AC Freezer 64 pro

[Random Murderer]

Please don't flame, lets keep it civil.

suck a nut. we've given trog every bit of proof he wanted, yet he still calls bullshit, and it's becoming a nuisance and not being productive in the least. may if he tried CONTRIBUTING instead of flaming and putting others down around the forums, we'd be nicer to him.
at this point, i have every right to be uncivil.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

lol yeah... i love being sweaty for some reason lol.. makes me feel like i really gave it my all in a game.. because i dont sweat easily. like that quote that goes like "your thristy, hungry, bloody, sweaty,& tired... and you've never felt this good before!"

personally, i trust cold & random on their statements. both are experience guys who know what they're doing and aren't gonna make noob statements you know? plus the xigma has a 1-3 degree difference between it and the thermalright ultra,, which would easily have over a 10-15 C difference over something like an ac7.. this has been shown by many reviews. whereas trog, is purely speculating and has no proof to back up what hes saying.

Then I need one. What is it called again?

The best price is at Newegg right?

 

[DaedalusHelios]

suck a nut. we've given trog every bit of proof he wanted, yet he still calls bullshit, and it's becoming a nuisance and not being productive in the least. may if he tried CONTRIBUTING instead of flaming and putting others down around the forums, we'd be nicer to him.
at this point, i have every right to be uncivil.

Sheesh, count to 10. Take deep breaths..... now think about all the people that love you in this world.

 

[Cold Storm]

Newegg is the place. Thats everything you need to know.

I'm a very truthful person. I even don't care if I am proven wrong, I'll admit to it. I just don't like to be called a bullsh1tter for no proof. I'm a Chef, I live by my work.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

Newegg is the place. Thats everything you need to know.

I'm a very truthful person. I even don't care if I am proven wrong, I'll admit to it. I just don't like to be called a bullsh1tter for no proof. I'm a Chef, I live by my work.

Thank you for the link and its good to see you don't think I should "suck a nut". LOL

 

[Cold Storm]

I see no point in it. My brother is just sick of everything, like I am. But, I have a different way of going with it. Being a nice ocker.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

I see no point in it. My brother is just sick of everything, like I am. But, I have a different way of going with it. Being a nice ocker.

If you believe someone is irrational, the most mature approach is to reason with them and ask them why they don't believe something and work through the reasoning with whoever it is. Taking offense is a lack of self control. I am glad you didn't take offense.

I flipped out on a thread not to long ago, but I have learned to look back on my early lessons. I realized even if I am thinking something in a joking manner if it isn't worded that way people don't know I am joking and I have to then face the consequences.

 

[panchoman]

If you believe someone is irrational, the most mature approach is to reason with them and ask them why they don't believe something and work through the reasoning with whoever it is. Taking offense is a lack of self control.

I flipped out on a thread not to long ago, but I have learned to look back on my early lessons. I realized even if I am thinking something in a joking manner if it isn't worded that way people don't know I am joking and I have to then face the consequences.

i agree with you man!

 

[Cold Storm]

Yes, you are right on that. I'm just over him doing it. Its better to not even say something, then to try and start something. If you know me, I have the most self control of anyone out there. Brought up as a marine, so control is my one point. I'm just sick of saying I'm laying when I have the proof given...

 

[magibeg]

Man theres so many people talking about how amazing this cooler is now and yet its still not avaliable in canada.... i can't justify spending $65 on the ultra 120 when the xigmatek appears to be better and cheaper

 

[Cold Storm]

I wish it was there to for ya man! I believe its a good heatsinnk to wait for. I mean its frostytecks top intel one. So why not? And I'm with you on spending that much for a heatsink.
I can't wait to put my Q6700 for a test drive tomorrow! Erocker, just know that it was a 24 hour sell... And I still love ya! lol

 

[trog100]

okay.. i dont mind folks having a go at me.. i ask for it and i get it.. no problems..

but.. proof.. what proof.. we have two pairs of eyes seeing something.. not something normal but something abnormal.. as has been already said there are many variables involved.. those variables should be looked at very closely..

"20 C better then last years best".. now that really is some claim.. cooler techology hasnt changed that much.. i know that we all should know that..

daedalus says 6 C better than a mediocre average cooler by modern standards.. one thats been around for three years.. not "last years best"..

what u saw is what u saw.. but to say any cpu air cooler is 20 C better then last years best is absurd..

insult and threaten all u like dudes.. "20 C better than last years best" just cannot be true.. its impossible..

i have every right to get angry back.. but i wont.. but u pair of plonkers do seem to have backed yourselves into a corner.. are u man enough to admit the absurdity of your claim or not.. "20 C better then last years best" is absurd..

as for me leaving the forum.. well perhaps its time.. i make too many enemies.. its hard not too.. the truth hurts sometimes..

in the end those who feel i have wronged them all look for a chance to have a go in numbers.. time to go then.. he he he

trog

 

[Kursah]

Trog, I see where you're coming from and do agree with you want to see it to believe it...I also agree with RM points against you at times. As you state, you ask for conflict, which is really not what this place is about. I like ya man, and I know others here do as well...I hope you can find a way to solve this w/o leaving...the people that need to leave are the ones the MODS ban IMO. Some of your statements can come off blunt..I worry not, if you disagree with me, fine...maybe you have more time to waste/spend on PC's..I do spend a fair ammount of time building and working with PC's as a hobby, not a profession...my personal choice atm. But you are very knowleged and share your experiences here which is helpful. So in short, I hope you don't leave, but I do hope you try to offend less...maybe proof read before you click submit or something? Egging on arguements repeatedly to prove a point is useless and wastes space where a solution can be posted...so I try to stay away from posts like this, but here I like you and RM...have no issues with either of ya and hope you guys can make ammends. I'm not siding with anyone as I have my own results in my AC Freezer 7 Pro vs my Xigmatec 1298, both full speed, CPU with EIST and TM ON, and I idle around 20C and load around 48-50C with the xig...the AC was about 23-25 idle and 53-55 load...so no, not a huge difference, but it's a difference. To me it's nice because I paid the same price for the AC cooler over a year ago ($26.99 last week at the 'Egg) and got better temps out of the deal, a quieter fan at full bore, and it does a great job.

The Xig is definately a good processor cooler for those interested in a great budget cooler...it is very effective, and as soon as I stop Orthos or whatever I'm using to load my CPU, it goes from around 50C to around 30C in a mere second or two...very quick response...for gaming, I rarely go over 44C right now...I'm very content.

Trog if you decide to leave, I wish the best for ya, but I hope you stay and just chill out and stop picking and poking at others...I'm not really a victim, but I've seen you do it since you showed back up a few months ago...it's not cute, funny or cool in any way, nore is it very helpful, but when you are helping others, you have a lot of very usefull knowlege that can be invaluable to others in times of need, and you succeed greatly there. I hope you take no offense to what I have to say, as I try to be honest, open-minded and fair in situations like this and would like to have peace.

And HEY You took my saying, well in real life..I always say... the truth hurts!

I look forward to you and RM hopefully getting along, and I hope that the helpfulness can continue beyond this thread, because I dunno about you guys, I joined this place to learn and help others...not argue in text form.

 

[panchoman]

and that ends it.. no more of this.. its gone far enough.. and its best to stop this debate before it gets out of hand. thanks.

 

[Random Murderer]

okay.. i dont mind folks having a go at me.. i ask for it and i get it.. no problems..

but.. proof.. what proof.. we have two pairs of eyes seeing something.. not something normal but something abnormal.. as has been already said there are many variables involved.. those variables should be looked at very closely..

"20 C better then last years best".. now that really is some claim.. cooler techology hasnt changed that much.. i know that we all should know that..

daedalus says 6 C better than a mediocre average cooler by modern standards.. one thats been around for three years.. not "last years best"..

what u saw is what u saw.. but to say any cpu air cooler is 20 C better then last years best is absurd..

insult and threaten all u like dudes.. "20 C better than last years best" just cannot be true.. its impossible..

i have every right to get angry back.. but i wont.. but u pair of plonkers do seem to have backed yourselves into a corner.. are u man enough to admit the absurdity of your claim or not.. "20 C better then last years best" is absurd..

as for me leaving the forum.. well perhaps its time.. i make too many enemies.. its hard not too.. the truth hurts sometimes..

in the end those who feel i have wronged them all look for a chance to have a go in numbers.. time to go then.. he he he

trog

for the record, i never said "last year's best." i said it's 20°C better than a zalman 9500.

and that ends it.. no more of this.. its gone far enough.. and its best to stop this debate before it gets out of hand. thanks.

oh? you gonna lock the thread, mr. moderator?

 

[DaedalusHelios]

You guys convinced me. I bought one. I hope it works. LOL

Hey if I get 20C lower temps than my lapped C2D I will be very happy!

Originally Posted by panchoman
and that ends it.. no more of this.. its gone far enough.. and its best to stop this debate before it gets out of hand. thanks.

oh? you gonna lock the thread, mr. moderator?

Where is the love?

 

[panchoman]

random, just chill man. im not gonna lock it, but seriously, it was just a request from a friend to a friend, just cut it out man, theres no need for this, and the points have been argued many times... who gives a crap as to who's right. people can see the evidence that both of you have provided and make up their mind.. dragging this on will only create a rift between you guys and cause this thread to get locked, when it could be used for better purposes then be food for the archives. come on man, neither of you are gonna win, and all of this is going to end up in a disaster, which i dont think anyone wants.

 

[panchoman]

You guys convinced me. I bought one. I hope it works. LOL

Hey if I get 20C lower temps than my lapped C2D I will be very happy!

dont forget to make sure you do everything right and take down the temps etc and lets see how the temps work out!

 

[DaedalusHelios]

dont forget to make sure you do everything right and take down the temps etc and lets see how the temps work out!

I wait for 3 hours of Prime95 Torture Test to take down my load temp. Is that standard? I do it to make sure I record it with accuracy.

I don't consider something stable unless it holds up to a 24hr prime Torture Test.

 

[panchoman]

thats good, just make sure its equal for both coolers, like the same amount of time, etc.

 

[Cold Storm]

okay.. i dont mind folks having a go at me.. i ask for it and i get it.. no problems..

but.. proof.. what proof.. we have two pairs of eyes seeing something.. not something normal but something abnormal.. as has been already said there are many variables involved.. those variables should be looked at very closely..

"20 C better then last years best".. now that really is some claim.. cooler techology hasnt changed that much.. i know that we all should know that..

daedalus says 6 C better than a mediocre average cooler by modern standards.. one thats been around for three years.. not "last years best"..

what u saw is what u saw.. but to say any cpu air cooler is 20 C better then last years best is absurd..

insult and threaten all u like dudes.. "20 C better than last years best" just cannot be true.. its impossible..

i have every right to get angry back.. but i wont.. but u pair of plonkers do seem to have backed yourselves into a corner.. are u man enough to admit the absurdity of your claim or not.. "20 C better then last years best" is absurd..

as for me leaving the forum.. well perhaps its time.. i make too many enemies.. its hard not too.. the truth hurts sometimes..

in the end those who feel i have wronged them all look for a chance to have a go in numbers.. time to go then.. he he he

trog

When I say see. Look at the post I have posted. Thats where I say give me proof. I have shown you in 4 screenshots. So thats my proof. Give me yours. That is what I was asking. If needed, I'll see if I can find pictures in Randoms PC and show you The "proof you need"?
I for one would never try and back something I didn't believe to be true. And of all people you should know that Trog. I admitted to you, of all people, I was wrong. I even thanked you. You then tried to lash back, and I thanked you again. It won't ever work with me. Being raised in the family I did, the times I did, nothing really can get to me. But to say I lied, thats another thing coming.
You are a great person that does know a thing or two. I will never get you wrong about that. I just don't see where you come in here and bash then don't give any proof of the matter. I wasn't talking about leaving the forum. I would never wish that apon someone else to happen.
All I was asking is give me proof to the matter. I got a 18 drop from a cpu that is on the same level as the AC Freezer. Some may even say better. But I did "see" the drop when it was changed from the Zalman 9500 to the Xigmatek.
I do not wish you to leave. We all make people not see eye to eye on aspects. Its what makes us who we are. I just don't see the need to come in, bash and leave with no proof of the matter. There is a few who I may not seem to keen with on here. But I would never with the worst with them, and just wish the best. They have their views, and I have mine. If I had the same views as you, I wouldn't be considered a Human. Now would I?


Trog, my back is never in the corner. IF you ever think that again. I'll show you what it means to cheated death 3 times.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

I am sorry but he said plonkers?! LOL

What the heck is a plonker? Oh god, this thread is getting weird.

Trog, what is a plonker?
You can insult me if you want. I won't take offense. Whatever makes you feel more comfortable.

 

[Cold Storm]

plonker

 

[DaedalusHelios]

Oh, well thats awfully boring. I guess since I live in the US thats why I have never heard of it. Kind of low brow.

I had an awful kidney disease that got cured.... I guess I cheated death too. Just not very valiantly.

 

[Cold Storm]

random, just chill man. im not gonna lock it, but seriously, it was just a request from a friend to a friend, just cut it out man, theres no need for this, and the points have been argued many times... who gives a crap as to who's right. people can see the evidence that both of you have provided and make up their mind.. dragging this on will only create a rift between you guys and cause this thread to get locked, when it could be used for better purposes then be food for the archives. come on man, neither of you are gonna win, and all of this is going to end up in a disaster, which i dont think anyone wants.

Random, I got a Q6700 sitting right here waiting for a home! Pancho is right. its just going to go on and on. Trog, if you need to call any of plonkers, pm me. I over it. I was nice. I gave nice words. I don't want anything to happen to Nick's thread. Just PM me if you feel the need to call someone somethign like that. I'll give you better words then that. Do I say that the Xigmatek can beat an AC Freezer? Yes. And that is what the thread was for.