PC goes mental after sending it to standby

[silentbogo]

It's definitely something with either BIOS settings or your particular board, @RejZoR .
Just in the past 2 weeks I've installed Windows 10 on the following rigs:
- MSI H81M-P33 + Celeron G1840
- ECS H18H3-M4 + Celeron G1840
- Asrock B85M-DGS + Pentium G3260 + GTX 750Ti
- AsRock H97 Fatal1ty + i3-4160 + GTX 660 x SLI
- ASUS Rampage II GENE + X5650 + GTX 750Ti (my rig after moving SSD to it's new house)
- MSI B150I Gaming Pro AC + i3-6100 + GTX 970
- Gigabyte X99M Gaming 5 + i7-5820K + GTX 980
- 4 different laptops.

Given the rumors about malfunctioning sleep in Win10, I am checking it after every installation just in case. The worst I've seen is my own PC, which fails to wake up about once in 20-30 attempts, but otherwise functions properly.

Check your BIOS settings once again, and make sure that all of your power management functions are set to default. Re-install your chipset drivers. Disable hybrid sleep.

 

[jaggerwild]

I'm a Maximus V Formula win 10 64bit, mine enters sleep mode fine(powers down)but I notice after a while it will power on again by its self and will do so several time's during the night. No XMP profile on mine, I don't usually use the option. But leaving a computer on every night all night long adds up.

 

[silentbogo]

I'm a Maximus V Formula win 10 64bit, mine enters sleep mode fine(powers down)but I notice after a while it will power on again by its self and will do so several time's during the night. No XMP profile on mine, I don't usually use the option. But leaving a computer on every night all night long adds up.

One of my PSUs used to cause that. When there is a spike from any load on the same line as my PC (plugging a laptop charger, or occasional spark in the light switch) - it would wake up by itself.
And that's with the fact that my PC is running through a UPS unit.

After I switched my shitty Zalman ZM500LE to a less shittier EVGA 500W - problem dissapeared. Not sure what's going on in your case, but I'd check the wake up options in BIOS first (your AX1200 should not cause spontaneous wakes of that kind unless faulty).

 

[MrGenius]

Disable hybrid sleep.

I tried that again. IIRC I tried it before and it made it worse. And it did the same thing now. What that does on my system is break the sleep function completely. It behaves similarly to when hybrid sleep is on. Except after the 3rd reboot it restarts. As in it doesn't wake up at all.

Hybrid sleep off = power down > power up > power down > power up > power down > restart

Hybrid sleep on = power down > power up > power down > power up > power down > wake up

 

[jaggerwild]

One of my PSUs used to cause that. When there is a spike from any load on the same line as my PC (plugging a laptop charger, or occasional spark in the light switch) - it would wake up by itself.
And that's with the fact that my PC is running through a UPS unit.

After I switched my shitty Zalman ZM500LE to a less shittier EVGA 500W - problem dissapeared. Not sure what's going on in your case, but I'd check the wake up options in BIOS first (your AX1200 should not cause spontaneous wakes of that kind unless faulty).

This is my other unit which has a corsair TX750 PSU, not sure if its good or bad. Right now its pushing 3770K Intel CPU, Maximus V formulas, 1 M.2drive 2X SSD'S 1 HHD, 2 GTX 780 Ti DCIIOC, memory, 2X MCP 655 pumps, 8 fans. Its about three years old, I sometimes wonder if I'm pushing it a little to much..................

 

[silentbogo]

I tried that again. IIRC I tried it before and it made it worse. And it did the same thing now. What that does on my system is break the sleep function completely. It behaves similarly to when hybrid sleep is on. Except after the 3rd reboot it restarts. As in it doesn't wake up at all.

Hybrid sleep off = power down > power up > power down > power up > power down > restart

Hybrid sleep on = power down > power up > power down > power up > power down > wake up

Check power management settings, C-states, wake options in BIOS.
Make sure you have a proper chipset driver installed (incorrect or incompatible ACPI driver may cause this). Also you need to check if your PC behaves properly in other OSes (Win7 or Linux).
If it's OK in other OSes, then it's a driver issue. If not - I'd RMA the motherboard (may be a faulty board, which happens).

 

[RejZoR]

Ok, I've enabled all DRAM training modes and disabled fast boot. I'm not sure what to use for ErP setting, it has Disabled, S4+S5 and S5. Now, I know what each individual power state does, it's the S4+S5 that confuses me since it's never documented this way. Does this mean it uses both states separately or both states together at once?

Gonna try this again, lets see what happens tomorrow after work when system will be sleeping for hours...

 

[silentbogo]

ErP is another power saving feature.
If disabled - system uses more power, but allows power on by peripherals and Wake-on-LAN.
If set to S4+S5 - it means low power during both hibernate and poweroff states.
If set to S5 - then only low power when completely off (allows waking from hybernation by KB/Mouse).

I'm not 100% sure, but if you select ErP option S4+S5, then you can only wake the PC from hibernation state only by power button. It may theoretically help with accidental wake-ups too.

BTW, I have hybrid sleep disabled on my primary PC, but I've noticed that after prolonged sleep if I cut the power to my computer (on the extension cord) and later power it on, it wakes up as if it was in hibernation. Strange, but this is what Hybrid sleep is supposed to do...

 

[MrGenius]

Check power management settings, C-states, wake options in BIOS.
Make sure you have a proper chipset driver installed (incorrect or incompatible ACPI driver may cause this). Also you need to check if your PC behaves properly in other OSes (Win7 or Linux).
If it's OK in other OSes, then it's a driver issue. If not - I'd RMA the motherboard (may be a faulty board, which happens).

Oh I'm fine with it as is. I don't use sleep or hibernate on any of my PCs very often(if ever). Never have really. Only on the rarest occasions. I'm just trying to give whatever input I can to help troubleshoot for the OP. I've got the latest chipset drivers installed AFAIK. Whatever they are I probably got them off the MSI website. So they should be good enough. I might take a look at how I have those BIOS settings configured. Looking in the manual just now I was reminded of the EuP 2013 setting too. Not sure what I did there either. Probably left it off.

Energy Using Products Lot 6 2013 (EUP) reduces power consumption when system is off or in standby mode.
Note: When enabled, the system will not support RTC wake up event functions.

Ok. So I checked my BIOS settings. I have C-states and EuP 2013 both disabled. And I just used the Intel Chipset Device Software (INF Update Utility). Which I don't think did anything except reinstall the current driver I had installed already. Maybe it updated it. I don't know. What I do know is it didn't make any difference. And I don't feel like installing another OS to see if that works(maybe some other time). So...

I'm done fooling around with it for now. I don't care if it even works or not(or works as it should or not). And like I said it does work sort of, for the most part. If I turn hybrid sleep on it wakes up after a few tries. And hibernate works exactly as it should. And neither is really that much faster(if at all) than just shutting down and powering up normally or restarting. Since I don't have any fast boot crap turned on either. Mainly because I'm not running the UEFI BIOS for my GC. Because I don't want/need to.

 

[RejZoR]

Nope, same bullshit. Despite RAM training settings and all that it still just cycled like absolute retard between power on and power off. I had to unplug it so it lost all power and caps get discharged, plugged it in, and it powered on fine. WTF

 

[erixx]

Love this thread and Cadaveca's insider help. It really shows all the X99 weirdness. In my case I am happy although I have no chance to run my RAM at specified 3000Mhz. Have run it at 2666 and now 2400.
One persistent issue is that quite often, having a stable medium overclock of 4400Mhz turbo@1,3v, I have boot problems: 1st boot always hangs with "American Megatrends" text (bigger as usual) during post. I reboot and then it is fine!!!

In reality the X99-S mobo plus 5930K are fine at 4400 and no RAM OC, but when benching or tweaking RAM latencies, I always return to more basic settings because it gets unstable even after a week of running fine... Maybe like Cadaveca said having no ROG board I just should settle with less...

(Now wondering if the 2nd gen X99 boards are going to be "better" apart from bringing in led-lights etc)

 

[erixx]

Well i jumped big. After returning Corsairs, and running HyperX during some months never finding "that girl"... and after reading GSkill reps in official forums saying it is ok for X99 I got myself the TridentZ (4 stick kit 3900Mhz, lolz, at a very good price).
I will post here if you like my findings, I just booted without any warmings, now I will st it to XMP or try manual...

This is based on the very valuable information provided by Cadavecza that Asus with GSkill is really the best choice. Dumb me for doing different

 

[RejZoR]

But does your PC standby? Mine boots and works just fine with HyperX. But it fails to wake up from sleep...

 

[Aquinus]

Sounds like the problem I had with Windows 7 occasionally until I upgraded to Windows 10. I suspect that it may be driver related if it's not related to system stability. The BIOS does very little when coming out of sleep compared to a cold boot or coming out of hibernation.

 

[erixx]

But does your PC standby? Mine boots and works just fine with HyperX. But it fails to wake up from sleep...

Oh yes. Standby for sure and hibernate And wake up. BUT often it boots with BIGGER AS USUAL TEXT>AMERICAN MEGATRENDS and hangs then. Never found anybody giving an explanation of this...

I am testing. The greazt thing of Kingston&HyperX is there multiple XMP options (2 profiles but in Aida64 you get info about of up to SIX dif profiles on the Savage 3000-s, so you get a good line of options). GSKILL has just ONE XMP profile and then the useless intel stock profiles... Now I have a hard time finding a OC setting inbetween 3800 Mhz and stock frecuency.... Man... CPU is so easy to tweak, now it is RAM battelfield!

 

[erixx]

Oh man is this PURE HAPPINESS I wil report more later, just buy it *gskill 3866 discounted from 390 to 299 euro at amazon.es... ( It makes it so easy!)

 

[Rapster]

Guys, would you like to try something...

If you have a USB hub or other such device, maybe embedded in your keyboard or monitor, unplug it from the motherboard and try the whole 'start from sleep' thing.

 

[erixx]

Yeah thats another culprit> USB hubs... Sometimes it seemed it matters... but annoying in the year 2016!

I am passing benches like it is butter. I ran AI Suite 3 tuning, it made a very stable 4600 Mhz overclock at 1,325 v but did not pass REalbench. I lowerdd the multi to 45 and voltage to 1.32 and I am passing Realbench. RAM at 2666 MHZ which I could not make stable before with HyperX.

Most amazing thing is, with the Kingston HyperX 3000 ram, Ai Suite autotuning always finished in 2 minutes and at 4100 Mhz. With GSkill it takes much longer, it does more, it makes more changes and reaches 4600! Pretty clear this is a whole new picture!

Intersting... before My auto VCCSA always wandered around 0,8 v. Now it sets itself to 1.15 v so this could be the thing!!!

Passed Valley and 3Dmark with ease. No heat issues. Restarts and suspension working great.. Man oh man why did i not get these Tridentz before! (Dozens of hours and nights wasted tweaking...)

 

[Aquinus]

Intersting... before My auto VCCSA always wandered around 0,8 v. Now it sets itself to 1.15 v so this could be the thing!!!

That could indicate that the voltage was too low for start up but, high enough to be seemingly stable. My motherboard has an option for a "start up voltage" for both the core and for the VCCSA that's separate from the running voltage. Although, I would categorize that as an unstable system, even if it's stable during normal operation.

I know this is a crazy idea (it was mentioned earlier but, I'll mention it again,) does resetting the BIOS and running at stock still make it so the machine doesn't sleep as well? Wouldn't that be the fastest way to rule out the overclock and get it over with as opposed to just screwing with settings and hoping something will fix it? Just like any other problem with the computer, you'll never really know if it's the OC or not unless you rule it out. When in doubt, clear it [BIOS] out.

 

[erixx]

May REjZor can tell. In my case, on stock settings the XX99/S runs like a champ. But i can-t keep my fingers of overclocking! 8-P

 

[erixx]

* Typical: after 2 days working perfectly (benches, games, booting, sleeping, etc) this morning is did not boot. Again that stupid American megatrends and nothing else. For now I just reboot and voilá. ...