PCi-e Riser (Memory)

[Freezer]

I think people are getting excited over using the wrong terminology.
If I'm not mistaken, you're looking for a kind of PCIe ramdisk adapter. The reason why you'd prefer this over a SSD is that you have memory laying around that you'd like to put to some kind of use.

Personally, I'd recommend just selling any extra memory you have and using that to fund a PCIe SSD such as this one by Intel. If you have enough memory to be useful as a ramdisk, you'll almost certainly get better value trading it for a PCIe SSD.

M.2 drives are just SSDs in a much more convenient form factor. SSDs were put in the shape of a 2.5" hard drive to help with adoption/compatibility.

You hit the nail on the head, but that's still PCI and not PCIe. It's still technically a riser whichever way you look at it... it's an addon card. Again, this is a PCI addon card, however, and it's still quite expensive, I can only suspect the PCI ramdisk adapter is that high only due to its name, and market availability Gigabyte GC-RAMDISK i-RAM 4 GB Hard Drive, Amazon, 1 new from $1,688.53. A motherboard has more complicated circuitry, and what I was speaking about. Realistically speaking, cost wise, it shouldn't cost no more than a mid-range GPU, if not less.

The PCIe SSD cards when I last checked were above $1,000 and were fairly expensive, but from the link you provided it seems to have gone down considerably to $349 plus a rebate. I'm unsure of the speeds, but did a quick search and seems to be somewhat negligible to RAMDisk speeds, not quite tho. RAMDisk can get up to 6k - 8k.

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-ssd-750-nvme-pcie-ssd-review_161829/5

Thanks for the input, xvi! Not exactly what I was after, but more specifically PCIe and the fact that Intel really drove down the price for that SSD drive. Kotos! Though, I wish Aquinus hadn't gotten all bent over shape over nothing.


PCI, not PCIe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815168001

 

[Disparia]

There were more products in the past because we were more limited in the past. The few remaining cases for RAM-based storage are fulfilled by the few remaining products out there.

The problem with your scenarios is that they don't exist in reality. This is probably why you have trouble understanding why such products have been in decline since the early 2000s.

 

[xvi]

but that's still PCI and not PCIe.

Should be PCIe, it's just a 4x slot instead of a 16x slot. Still fits in to and is electrically compatible with a PCIe 16x slot and is still blazing fast. Intel makes things a little pricier than they need to be sometimes, so

Wait, unless you mean you want one that's just PCI. That bus is waaaay too slow to be useful for much of anything (to the tune of ~133MB/s), trumped even by the original SATA.

I don't think you'd find a whole lot in the way of a RAMdisk new, certainly not on the cheap. I'd check the good ol' eBay for something used.

 

[OneMoar]

You hit the nail on the head, but that's still PCI and not PCIe. It's still technically a riser whichever way you look at it... it's an addon card. Again, this is a PCI addon card, however, and it's still quite expensive, I can only suspect the PCI ramdisk adapter is that high only due to its name, and market availability Gigabyte GC-RAMDISK i-RAM 4 GB Hard Drive, Amazon, 1 new from $1,688.53. A motherboard has more complicated circuitry, and what I was speaking about. Realistically speaking, cost wise, it shouldn't cost no more than a mid-range GPU, if not less.

The PCIe SSD cards when I last checked were above $1,000 and were fairly expensive, but from the link you provided it seems to have gone down considerably to $349 plus a rebate. I'm unsure of the speeds, but did a quick search and seems to be somewhat negligible to RAMDisk speeds, not quite tho. RAMDisk can get up to 6k - 8k.

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-ssd-750-nvme-pcie-ssd-review_161829/5

Thanks for the input, xvi! Not exactly what I was after, but more specifically PCIe and the fact that Intel really drove down the price for that SSD drive. Kotos! Though, I wish Aquinus hadn't gotten all bent over shape over nothing.


PCI, not PCIe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815168001

guess what that card is SATA
it just draws power from the PCI slot
the more you post the more I realise you have no frigging clue what you are talking about

 

[dorsetknob]

this thread is going nowhere

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[Freezer]

There were more products in the past because we were more limited in the past. The few remaining cases for RAM-based storage are fulfilled by the few remaining products out there.

The problem with your scenarios is that they don't exist in reality. This is probably why you have trouble understanding why such products have been in decline since the early 2000s.

That's why I stated it's fairly a moot advance. The amount of RAM needed to exceed an SSD drive for the use of fast storage at a reasonable price is negligible. Even if someone did have 200+ DDR1/2/3 ram modules laying around, it's a niche, a hobbyist product than anything. Well, in today's world.

this thread is going nowhere

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No problem.... it's people like yourself with a brain the size of a pea who are incapable of comprehending the application for such technology. Yet, it was people like yourself who screamed that SSD's were going no where, COSTLY, and it made more sense to people like yourself to stock up on mechanical drives. In any case the 64GB X25e was one of the cheapest SSD's when they first came out.

I see a lot of application for this, despite the fact that it's costly and not very practical today. Anyway, I see a lot of haters and lamos within this thread.

Least to say I have an Engineer friend and he's really into this stuff.

Found a quote from someone with a bit of knowledge... the idea isn't practical but it'll kick any SSD's ass.

RAM based media only works in a world where old RAM is stupidly low priced. I mean, shit, single channel PC133 SDRAM can throw 800 MB/s in both directions with a latency of about 60 ns - lower if you're banging columns. That's the kind of performance an SSD would sell its grandmother for. In this world, we would have a bizzaro-universe i-RAM with 16 slots and drop 512 MB in each slot. That's 8 GB, dirt cheap, and maybe enough to be useful for... a single game?

We don't live in that world and old RAM is not low priced. Using current RAM as a storage medium is a bit stupid, when you could just add it to the motherboard instead.

A modern-day i-RAM would probably use DDR3-1333. Dropping in four 4 GB modules (the cheapest) gets you a grand total of 16 GB. What you going to do with that? Even greatly abusing the DDR3 spec and using 16 slots still only gets us 64 GB. The same money could buy us a LOT of SSD. http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1245395

 

[rtwjunkie]

@Freezer how do you know what @dorsetknob was saying or screaming about SSD's? All I see here is you insulting someone.

You decide to pitch an idea that has already been done, back when systens NEEDED it. They don't now, and if something as gargantuan(compared to the old stuff) were needed now, the major companies filled with computer science engineers and electrical engineers would have pitched it.

Thus, the thread is going nowhere because you keep telling us it can be done. Fine, do it then. Patent it, and get it made.

Until then, I'm unsubscribing also.

 

[R-T-B]

Oh my god it's another thread like this. I think I'm going back to my hippie commune where people talk without insulting each other. (It's called Evergreen state college, and if they didn't have that creepy geoduck mascot staring at me, it'd be almost nice here).

 

[Tatty_Two]

Seems this has turned into mayhem and mess, best be gone, thank you.