Please help me identify what this fake card actually is

[hawk3y3]

Can someone please confirm if they know the actual card that is highlighted above (the Fake Nvidia GeForce GTX1050 Ti) I was scammed on ebay and was eventually refunded after using the GPU-Z tool thanks. I am looking to flash the card back to its original BIOS hence my question over the actual card I have so that I can locate the correct .rom file. My screenshot is identical to the one posted / attached

 

[Bjørgersson]

Can someone please confirm if they know the actual card that is highlighted above (the Fake Nvidia GeForce GTX1050 Ti) I was scammed on ebay and was eventually refunded after using the GPU-Z tool thanks. I am looking to flash the card back to its original BIOS hence my question over the actual card I have so that I can locate the correct .rom file. My screenshot is identical to the one posted / attached

GTX 550 Ti is based on GF116, so I think it might be that. Transistor count also seems to be the same.

 

[eidairaman1]

Lets physically verify what's on the card.

Take heatsink-fan off, clean gpu Die.

Take a pic of board with die and all ram chips.

Take a close up of gpu die and each ram chip, need text info from them.

Take pics of white stickers from the back of the card-clear text.

Stop buying from china in fleabay.

Update:

Here is the bios your card has, it is definitely a fake.

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/198351/nvidia-gtx1050ti-4096-170620

The card is actually based upon a GTS 450.

Once you get the info I requested above i might be able to locate the correct bios as ram chip, bus speed all count.

@Bones Bones i think i narrowed it down further

 

[Bones]

Stop buying from china in fleabay.

THIS.
Chinese sellers are well known for selling fakes - You can spot them easily if you pay attention to certain details about the listings they put up, including when they claim to be a seller from the US. If it's a deal that looks too good to be true you can bet it is.

 

[eidairaman1]

Take a pic of the heatsink-fan too

 

[hawk3y3]

Pictures as requested and thanks for the feedback

The GPU has the following 12B3B506 1113A1 PAC072 M00

The Hynix memory has HSGQ2M24 T2C 130A

The BIOS chip is RY9059 GSP4LHOL as best I can make it out

 

[eidairaman1]

Pictures as requested and thanks for the feedback

The GPU has the following 12B3B506 1113A1 PAC072 M00

The Hynix memory has HSGQ2M24 T2C 130A

The BIOS chip is RY9059 GSP4LHOL as best I can make it out

How many ram chips are on the card?

Btw they etch out the GF die model number

 

[silentbogo]

LoL. This never gets old =)
My condolences.

P.S. If your camera allows you to, make a closeup photo of one memory chip. It could be 1GB or 2GB model, so we don't mess it up with the wrong dump.

The BIOS chip is RY9059 GSP4LHOL as best I can make it out

Not BIOS.
That's Richtek RT9059. It's an adjustable LDO (voltage regulator). It's probably there to generate 3.3V for VBIOS.

 

[hawk3y3]

There are four ram chips on the card, photo attached.

I thought that I bought this from a UK seller - UK Vat number supplied but on checking once I realised the card had been re-flashed I noticed the sellers address was China

Close up of a ram chip

Hynix HSGQ2M24 T2C 130A

 

[Vya Domus]

I imagine they'll eventually going to run out of these cards one day, so there is that.

 

[eidairaman1]

Hmm, either nv had 1 universal pcb at the time due to the 2 missing ram chips or this was remanned and removed 2 chips.

2048, 1024, 512 all are easily dividable by 4 so just gotta research the ram chips.

@silentbogo, he gave ram chip info earlier bro

 

[MrGenius]

If all 4 memory chips are H5GQ2H24MFR-T2C, then it has 1GB of Hynix GDDR5 rated for 1250MHz.

The GPU die looks like a GTS 450(GTX 1050 Ti Fake Card or whatever else uses the GF106). Or a GTX 550 Ti(or whatever else uses the GF116)

EDIT: The PAC072.M00 marking suggests it's a GF116 GPU. As GF106 GPUs have markings that start with N.

So one of these BIOSes might be a better match for it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...rface=PCI-E&memType=GDDR5&memSize=1024&since=

 

[silentbogo]

That's 1GB GDDR5. Two empty pads for 1.5GB version.
Now it's time to pick something from VGA BIOS database:
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...rface=PCI-E&memType=GDDR5&memSize=1024&since=

@silentbogo, he gave ram chip info earlier bro

Gave wrong marking. Photo is better, cause I can see for myself.

 

[eidairaman1]

If all 4 memory chips are H5GQ2H24MFR-T2C, then it has 1GB of Hynix GDDR5 rated for 1250MHz.

The GPU die looks like a GTS 450(GTX 1050 Ti Fake Card else uses the GF106). Or a GTX 550 Ti(or whatever else uses the GF116)

EDIT: The PAC072.M00 marking suggests it's a GF116 GPU. As GF106 GPUs have markings that start with N.

So one of these BIOSes might be a better match for it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...rface=PCI-E&memType=GDDR5&memSize=1024&since=

I compared to his bios number version in the database and the description said that it's a actually a 450 GTS so basically now that we've got it down to 1 GB he will just have to try all the different bios files that are 1 gigabyte

Yeah I'll provide additional ones at my actually match up to what he's got FM and reality he'd be smart to get a SPI flasher at this point that way you can force flash it

 

[hawk3y3]

Thanks everyone for your help

I had tried flashing the original .rom (created using GPU-Z .rom backup) back to the board to test nvflash (from a DOS boot) but the --protection off and -4 -5 -6 commands return an error and so a USB SPI with clip is already on order.

As I have a backup of the .rom that's currently on the BIOS, I should be able to recover from any bad flashes. I was going to run a DOS FC on the GPU-Z .rom against the SPI download .rom first to confirm the SPI was set up correctly, before flashing the various GTS 450 .roms.

I will work through the GTS 450 1Gb .roms until one hooks and will then post an update for future reference.

Thanks again

 

[MrGenius]

I compared to his bios number version in the database and the description said that it's a actually a 450 GTS...

Right. But how is that identification being made? Maybe it's based on another thread, where a different GPU die was shown. I don't know. And what's to stop somebody from flashing that BIOS on a GF116 based card(e.g. GTX 550 Ti)? Nothing.

Bottom line: You can't go by what the BIOS says, and/or what the TPU database says, to identify anything about the physical characteristics of the card in question. All that stuff can be wrong. I'm still going to say it's a GF116 GPU based on the only supporting evidence I can find. Or show me at least 1 GF106 GPU die with a marking that starts with P, or at least 1 GF116 GPU die with a marking that doesn't start with P, below the manufacture location marking to change my mind. Not that there's really any major difference between a GF106 and a GF116 anyway. Other than the GF116 having a slightly higher(+10W)Max. TDP, there isn't any difference so far as I can tell. The GF116 is basically a 100% rebrand of the GF106. Not to mention the fact that Rev. 2 and Rev. 3 GTS 450s actually use the GF116 GPU.

 

[27MaD]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GTX1050TI-...m=163413695472&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

And it says"100% buyer satisfaction" .

 

[eidairaman1]

I used that fake bios to reverse ID the card, so we just need to look at 1GB 450GTS with his hynix ram.

Well at this rate its a crapshoot

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...sion=&interface=&memType=&memSize=1024&since=

 

[hawk3y3]

Hi Everyone

Thanks for your help to date.

My CH341A USB programmer and clip finally arrived (from China) and after installation of the drivers and connecting the clip to the card I was able to detect the onboard BIOS

I read the chip and it references the GTX 1050 per previous discussions.

CH341a has generated a .bin file at 512k, I have a .rom file at 60k does anyone know of any convertors / hex editors I can use to "convert" the .rom file to .bin so that I can use it to flash / overwrite the current BIOS config with a GTX 450

Thanks Hawkeye

 

[MrGenius]

Hi Everyone

Thanks for your help to date.

My CH341A USB programmer and clip finally arrived (from China) and after installation of the drivers and connecting the clip to the card I was able to detect the onboard BIOS

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I read the chip and it references the GTX 1050 per previous discussions.

CH341a has generated a .bin file at 512k, I have a .rom file at 60k does anyone know of any convertors / hex editors I can use to "convert" the .rom file to .bin so that I can use it to flash / overwrite the current BIOS config with a GTX 450

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Thanks Hawkeye

"Convert"...that's rich!

You don't need to "convert" it. If you want it to be a .bin file rename it to whatever.bin. Done.

 

[eidairaman1]

"Convert"...that's rich!

You don't need to "convert" it. If you want it to be a .bin file rename it to whatever.bin. Done.

Yup just change the file extension, heck .txt can be made .rom

Seriously he is making this harder than it has to be...