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Please I need help with the poor performance that my PC is giving me
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How do I do that? My monitor only has the option to turn FreeSync on or off, but I can't use it with my Nvidia GPU either way, right? I understand that it can only be used with a DVI input, which my monitor doesn't have.
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The settings should be available in the monitors OSD menu but not all monitors support the different levels of FreeSync. You may just have basic on/off support. I thought there was some degree of compatibility between FreeSync monitors and Nvidia cards but I'm not so knowledgeable in this area. My monitor is enabled FreeSync extended mode (whatever that means) and it works with my 4060 no problem although I am limited to 60Hz gaming.
I wasn't aware of any limitation to DVI input. I have FreeSync monitor and it uses Display Port or HDMI to my knowledge and AMD Software recognizes it in either mode.
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If you're games all happen to use UE4 then it might be the fault of the games and not your PC. If you weren't seeing the issue before but then you updated you graphics drivers or you got a new GPU then all the more reason to think it's UE4 shader compilation stutter.
Hi, sorry I didn't answer you, I hadn't seen your message
1) no, I don't use any pci
2) I already tried it and it didn't work either
3) it's okay, now I can't do the test you're asking me, but when I free myself I'll do it and upload it here
4) I play at 1080p and I tried with everything on high which was the recommendation that the nvidia app gave me, I lowered the graphics and still had the same problem
5) in fact yesterday I discovered that by removing the dlss the game works much better, but it still has some micro cuts like the ones in the cyberpunk 2077 video that I uploaded
6) not only drivers and as it kept happening I tried with the msi afterburner to see if there was a problem in the metrics
7) no, I don't have another ssd at the moment, either individually if the problem is solved or not I felt like buying another one
Sorry, I was referring to DisplayPort, if it is not with a DisplayPort cable, I understand that I cannot use FreeSync with an Nvidia GPU.
how weird, and there is no way to fix it? some windows/bios setting or something, it's just that it seems very strange to me to update almost the entire PC and instead of having a performance improvement I have these annoying micro cuts
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I honestly dont see much stutter in your video, not compared to mine at the moment in icarus since the last update.
Do you run 2 screens? If so run software on the second screen and watch for spikes when you get the stutter in your HDD or CPU etc this might help to find thr issue.
Do you run 2 screens? If so run software on the second screen and watch for spikes when you get the stutter in your HDD or CPU etc this might help to find thr issue.
If I use two monitors (I also tried disconnecting them and using just one) and on the secondary one I played with the task manager in performance to see where there could be a fault, but nothing strange was seen either.
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Try also using max perf mode
No luck either, I really don't know what it could be. I guess I just have to get used to it. Disabling all the optimizations for Windows games and hardware acceleration helped a bit, but I still have the same micro cut.
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Your Pc doesn't have problems in Cyberpunk, is only one single spike, you frame time was flat. Didn't see stutters.
Is seen you capped at 72 FPS well done.
The other game has a lot oscillations in FPS and bad frame time. However is better than the first video. Do you play that game online?
Yes your VRAM can be problematic, too little and too hot. No Memory Junction sensor on your card.
Since when you have the card? Did somebody service it? Cleaning and thermal paste and pads?
Last upgrade you added 3070 and 5700X3D which are higher consumers it might that the PSU(source) is not OK , it should cope very well with what hardware you have but, maybe is faulty and we can't go further without seeing if PSU is ok or not.
Download HW info look for power tab/section and start HW info and start Throne of Liberty play 1/2 or 1 h, post your HWINFO print screen with the power tab.
looks like this:
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I was not going to post until your reply of 3DMark (at 720p, 1080p and 1440p and 1% and .1% FPS lows) or at least both games tested at 720p at the lowest settings.
But this one is interesting: He calls Fortnite Stutternite and one can see the same stutters that you have (less than 8GB VRAM usage on a 12GB VRAM GPU and it still stutters), so maybe there's indeed no problem with your PC, like some others have said? (unless his PC has the same issue as your, of course
, but he says: "the stuttering is not due to the system, it's just the game, it's terribly broken") And in some of his other video (maybe this one?) I remember him saying something like: ~"(if the VRAM gets full)? there are tons of stutters and the GPU power usage gets very low" (similar to what is happening in Liberty).
Which are the other games where you have the same issues and do they also happen at the lowest settings at 720p?
But this one is interesting: He calls Fortnite Stutternite and one can see the same stutters that you have (less than 8GB VRAM usage on a 12GB VRAM GPU and it still stutters), so maybe there's indeed no problem with your PC, like some others have said? (unless his PC has the same issue as your, of course
, but he says: "the stuttering is not due to the system, it's just the game, it's terribly broken") And in some of his other video (maybe this one?) I remember him saying something like: ~"(if the VRAM gets full)? there are tons of stutters and the GPU power usage gets very low" (similar to what is happening in Liberty).Which are the other games where you have the same issues and do they also happen at the lowest settings at 720p?
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Skimmed thread.
2 things come to mind to try:
-Assuming the SSD is properly cooled*, disable PCIe ASPM in BIOS, and lock the M.2 and the GPU's PCIe slot to Gen4 (Settings should be in roughly same area of UEFI as the ASPM setting). This will prevent the drive and GPU from entering PCI-IF defined lower power states.
-If that doesn't have any impact on the issue, try this Solidigm (Intel-SKHynix) derived universal NVMe driver:
www.techpowerup.com
*I recently had a KLEVV (SK Hynix) CRAS C910 4TB TLC (Essencore) DRAMless Gen4x4 (Realtek) NVMe fail in a large windows explorer drive-drive copy. When I pulled it out, I discovered my Asus TUF X570-Plus' lower M.2 shield/sink, was only making about 3-5mm of contact at an outer edge.
No excuse on my part, but it legitimately is a PITA trying to pull that cover down A. evenly. B. Lightly/loosely enough to not warp the drive.
Now, I've removed the mobo-included shield entirely, and use a cheap AF 'thin profile' black alu. 2280 heatsink. Runs way cooler... [-_-]
Edit: You may also want to take a look @ this.
www.techpowerup.com
Lacking ReBAR shouldn't be a sole cause of stutter (outside of Intel A- and B- GPUs) but, it might be worth verifying it's supported and enabled on your current 3070.
2 things come to mind to try:
-Assuming the SSD is properly cooled*, disable PCIe ASPM in BIOS, and lock the M.2 and the GPU's PCIe slot to Gen4 (Settings should be in roughly same area of UEFI as the ASPM setting). This will prevent the drive and GPU from entering PCI-IF defined lower power states.
-If that doesn't have any impact on the issue, try this Solidigm (Intel-SKHynix) derived universal NVMe driver:
Solidigm NVMe Custom Modded Driver for All NVMe Brands SSDs & Any NVMe SSDs
Today I'm sharing this driver which Solidigm promises performance improvements & more responsive user experience made by Solidigm. I have modded the driver to work on all NVMe SSDs and any NVMe SSDs, as long as it's NVMe.. this will work. They got a feature called "Fast Lane" where they explain...
www.techpowerup.com
*I recently had a KLEVV (SK Hynix) CRAS C910 4TB TLC (Essencore) DRAMless Gen4x4 (Realtek) NVMe fail in a large windows explorer drive-drive copy. When I pulled it out, I discovered my Asus TUF X570-Plus' lower M.2 shield/sink, was only making about 3-5mm of contact at an outer edge.
No excuse on my part, but it legitimately is a PITA trying to pull that cover down A. evenly. B. Lightly/loosely enough to not warp the drive.
Now, I've removed the mobo-included shield entirely, and use a cheap AF 'thin profile' black alu. 2280 heatsink. Runs way cooler... [-_-]
Edit: You may also want to take a look @ this.
Cant Enable Resizable Bar
Hello guys, I can't activate Resizable BAR. 4G encoding is enabled. Resizable BAR is set to Auto. I installed Nvidia Profile Inspector and enabled the Resizable BAR feature, options, and size limit. Resizable BAR still appears to be disabled according to the Nvidia Control Panel. I'm using a...
www.techpowerup.com
Lacking ReBAR shouldn't be a sole cause of stutter (outside of Intel A- and B- GPUs) but, it might be worth verifying it's supported and enabled on your current 3070.
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I believe also something is not right with Thrones of Liberty game as Cyberpunk on his PC seems stable.
Okay, watching the Cyberpunk video again, I just realized that when it stutters twice while I'm driving, which aren't really stutters, because as you say, the frametime remains the same, at the top of the screen it says "loading" for a second. Is that because it's loading shaders?
Yes, Thorne and Liberty is online since it's an MMORPG, I think. I was playing today. I disabled hardware acceleration in my browser (Brave) and on Discord. I don't remember touching anything else, but that seems to have improved performance a lot.
Bien, aquí hay una imagen de HW Info después de jugar durante aproximadamente media hora más o menos.
Sorry, but I'm not a fan of messing with BIOS settings. Is it safe to change that option?Skimmed thread.
2 things come to mind to try:
-Assuming the SSD is properly cooled*, disable PCIe ASPM in BIOS, and lock the M.2 and the GPU's PCIe slot to Gen4 (Settings should be in roughly same area of UEFI as the ASPM setting). This will prevent the drive and GPU from entering PCI-IF defined lower power states.
-If that doesn't have any impact on the issue, try this Solidigm (Intel-SKHynix) derived universal NVMe driver:
Solidigm NVMe Custom Modded Driver for All NVMe Brands SSDs & Any NVMe SSDs
Today I'm sharing this driver which Solidigm promises performance improvements & more responsive user experience made by Solidigm. I have modded the driver to work on all NVMe SSDs and any NVMe SSDs, as long as it's NVMe.. this will work. They got a feature called "Fast Lane" where they explain...
*I recently had a KLEVV (SK Hynix) CRAS C910 4TB TLC (Essencore) DRAMless Gen4x4 (Realtek) NVMe fail in a large windows explorer drive-drive copy. When I pulled it out, I discovered my Asus TUF X570-Plus' lower M.2 shield/sink, was only making about 3-5mm of contact at an outer edge.
No excuse on my part, but it legitimately is a PITA trying to pull that cover down A. evenly. B. Lightly/loosely enough to not warp the drive.
Now, I've removed the mobo-included shield entirely, and use a cheap AF 'thin profile' black alu. 2280 heatsink. Runs way cooler... [-_-]
Edit: You may also want to take a look @ this.
Cant Enable Resizable Bar
Hello guys, I can't activate Resizable BAR. 4G encoding is enabled. Resizable BAR is set to Auto. I installed Nvidia Profile Inspector and enabled the Resizable BAR feature, options, and size limit. Resizable BAR still appears to be disabled according to the Nvidia Control Panel. I'm using a...
Lacking ReBAR shouldn't be a sole cause of stutter (outside of Intel A- and B- GPUs) but, it might be worth verifying it's supported and enabled on your current 3070.
And regarding Rebar, I have everything enabled in the BIOS. Where can I check in Windows to confirm it's enabled? I also asked the user in the post you sent me to see how they did it!
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Your PSU look good, phew.
Good call with Discord, also disable overlay in Discord specially if you don't use it, is a vulnerability and can also cause stutters.
What screen resolution are you using in Thrones of Liberty? and what graphics settings Epic, High, etc
Hope you disabled FSR in G setting.
What 3070 you are using Make and Model?
I play at 1920x1080, in throne and liberty I have the configuration on high with some effects like blur on low, exactly, I don't use fsr, and I have a 3070 gigabyte gaming oc, I entered the brand's page and noticed that there is a version of firewall and bios to download, the truth is I don't want to touch any of that because I don't know how safe it is, and if it is really necessary
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As you can see I freshly installed this game and I have Different Nvidia driver 560.94 and my Windows 10 supports maximum 12_1 DX 12, yours maybe is 12_2 if is a Windows Pro. However both DX 11 and 12 as you can see in the video shown same kind of oscillations in frame time and FPS drops except when I lowered some settings in the game which stabilize a bit the FPS drop but not the frame time.
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I run over 10 games on this PC and I never seen such erratic frame time, you have to bare in mind Unreal Engine 5 has his issues, but also consider implementation of UE 5 in TaL.
As you can see in the link 7900XTX user, powerful card, experience same issues, erratic FPS. 7900 XTX same issues
I locked FPS in Nvidia Ctrl Panel letting the game FPS free, to eliminate the possible issue with the game Vsync, and I set it to full screen not borderless. Never use Borderless as I seen in other games tends to draw more power from GPU.
While my temperatures are more than ok for my 1080 Ti VRAM being bottom right with orange MEM3 the hottest VRAM group on my 1080Ti, Hotspot being with white on the bottom overlay. Even my card has higher bandwidth than yours 484GB/s(1080Ti) vs 448.0 GB/s(3070) still has FPS drops and bad frame time. Again problematic UE5 or implementation of it.
I have Manor Lords at 1440P max with same Unreal 5 Engine, the frame time is so much better.
Another possible issue your MBO delivers not so well voltages to your present CPU, as you said with 5600 CPU you had no such issues, but also maybe your Upgrade coincide with in game update which changed or brought issues with some hardware.
What you can do:
To service your card, thermal pads for power delivery and VRAM might be dry or leaking. We have no Memory sensors and we can't tell how your VRAM are. For example if driver MOSFET chips are running hot will deliver erratic voltages to VRAM and just by that, VRAM can get hotter.
Also very important the back plate of this card really needs thermal pads, otherwise it will just trap heat coming from VRAM. Gigabyte added pads for the 3080 but not for 3070 even though GDDR6X(3080) has higher temps margins compared with GDDR6 on 3070 95 C officially, I would say better stay on 85 C max on VRAM(wait we can not see the temps for VRAM). Go with thin 1mm thickness pads for the back plate.
If you look at the picture bellow(your Gigabyte 3070 backplate), What I'll do is to cover all the green squares with pads, will really help take the heat to back plate fast from GPU core and VRAM but also from other components.
To conclude:
1. Main issue remains UE5 and this game
2. Your 3070 might have dry pads or leaking, lack of pads on the back of the card is big issue IMO, I tested and moded enough GPUs to tell you that: backplates without pads hinders the cooling and are a risk.
For example on RX 380 Nitro, a card with 190 W TDP, thermal pads brings back plate to 61 C, without pads > backplate barely reach 53C and in much longer time, I added a fan in that case, after replacing the single leaking pad and adding more pads on the back plate which helped lower card temps considerably, the lags in games dissapeared. Shame I don't have those tests records it was some time ago. Similar behaviour was on my 1080 Ti with leaky pads poor transfer of heat to the back plate(this card had pads on the backplate but in poor condition)
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