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[POLL] Will you be buying a Zen3/Ryzen 5000 CPU?

Will you be buying a Zen3/Ryzen 5000 CPU?

  • Yes immediately upon launch

    Votes: 26 12.8%
  • Yes when prices come down perhaps in the NY

    Votes: 30 14.8%
  • Maybe at some point but no immediate plans

    Votes: 51 25.1%
  • I will wait for Intel 11th Gen

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • I will keep my current Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 CPU

    Votes: 34 16.7%
  • I will keep my current Intel CPU

    Votes: 33 16.3%
  • I will buy an older gen as prices will surely now drop

    Votes: 9 4.4%
  • Other (explain?)

    Votes: 15 7.4%

  • Total voters
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Anyway, these are looking to be awesome chips... but sadly, none are really an upgrade for me (7960x) for my uses.
Out of curiosity; are you running the 7960x for the cores/thread, extra PCIe lanes, sweet deal on the price, combination of things?
 
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I'll probably buy into a 5900X for my XMG Apex 15 I bought not too long ago, mostly going to wait for BIOSes to arrive/mature if that happens, or I'll buy into a used 3950X, for now though I don't plan to for a good few months since this 3600 is sufficing for the time being.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Out of curiosity; are you running the 7960x for the cores/thread, extra PCIe lanes, sweet deal on the price, combination of things?
Luck and happenstance. It started off as a 7900X I got for review... but a board was proven to have taken out that CPU and it was replaced with a 7960X (no 7900X there I guess). I run it w/o HT typically as I don't really need so many cores/threads for my uses (16 cores threads smokes 8c/16t).

That said, I roll with 2 M.2 drives, SATA based SSD, and two SATA HDDs... so I don't 'utilize' what the platform offers. I'd rather have a 10900K or the Zen 3 12c/24t AMD part. ;)
 
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5900X sure looks fine but I already own 3700X and I don't need that sweet single core performance for day to day use. My priority is on upgrading GPU and display. Since I don't aim for 1080p super high refresh rate I'll be GPU bound sooner than CPU bound at higher res.
I'd probably get about €250 tops for my 3700x on 2nd hand market. Which means I'd have to invest another €250 (or more) to get 5900X.
 
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I'm postponing a purchase because AMD has decided to make a quick buck and removed 5700X from the lineup. No way I'm downgrading from 3700X to 5600X and 5800X is too ****ing expensive, thank you very much.

AMD fans on TPU are trying hard to justify the fact that AMD is now copying the worst monopolistic companies in the world by raising their prices quite significantly and that's a strange phenomenon I cannot quite understand. I mean they've always hated Intel and NVIDIA for offering the highest performance at not so good prices and now that AMD does exactly that, it's suddenly OK. WTF?!

I keep hearing AMD needs money for R&D and ... Intel and NVIDIA do not? Really? These two companies use AI and aliens to develop new products, right? They get them basically for free? Is it how AMD fans rationalize AMD's worst behavior since Athlon 64 when they sold their CPUs at insane prices?

Should I remind people how much AMD charged for Athlon 64 FX-57 in 2005 when Intel pushed their Prescott atrocity? 1031 ****ing dollars.

History repeats.

The 5800X performance-per-dollar is quite mediocre which is a shame.

Quite agree with you. 3700X was great, while 5800X is the absolute worst in the new lineup.
 
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raising their prices quite significantly and that's a strange phenomenon I cannot quite understand

AMD is not a charity, people suddenly forgot about $1000 FX CPU?! If you have the best you will charge more that is normal, and nobody is forcing you to buy it.
 
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AMD is not a charity, people suddenly forgot about $1000 FX CPU?! If you have the best you will charge more that is normal, and nobody is forcing you to buy it.

If Intel doesn't dig itself out of their complacency hole in the next two years, Ryzen 6000 will become even more expensive, have my word. We'll see what kind of cheap crap AMD fans will come up with to justify the rip-off by their favourite underdog. Oh, wait, Intel is now an underdog. How the tables have quickly turned.

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My 8700K or R7 1700 are way more powerful than I have need for so there's no incentive to upgrade.

Maybe when they get cheap I might get one to tinker with assuming my X370 Taichi can run them.
 
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AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Corsair, Microsoft, etc., all charge what the market is willing to pay.

Also, why are all these AMD owners dumping their Zen 2 chips for Zen 3? I thought IPC is meaningless and it's all about cores and threads so everyone was future proofed with their 3700x+?
 
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AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Corsair, Microsoft, etc., all charge what the market is willing to pay.
Agreed.
Also, why are all these AMD owners dumping their Zen 2 chips for Zen 3? I thought IPC is meaningless and it's all about cores and threads so everyone was future proofed with their 3700x+?
Eh, I'm not dumping it yet, but my plan is to keep my AM4 rig for as long as possible, so it's likely that I will be replacing my R5 3600 with whatever high-end R7 or R9 5000 series CPU I can find. Knowing me, I'll probably move out of AM4 altogether by the time DDR6 starts arriving at the consumer market :laugh:

AMD fans on TPU are trying hard to justify the fact that AMD is now copying the worst monopolistic companies in the world by raising their prices quite significantly and that's a strange phenomenon I cannot quite understand. I mean they've always hated Intel and NVIDIA for offering the highest performance at not so good prices and now that AMD does exactly that, it's suddenly OK. WTF?!

Can't speak for anyone else, but in my opinion the current high prices of Ryzen 5000 CPUs will help drain stocks of older-gen CPUs that may remain.
 
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Voted "Other". Not sure really. I keep telling myself I should wait for AM5/DDR5, but I've got that upgrade itch. The problem is I don't really need to upgrade my 2600/5700XT (mainly just 1440p gaming with some very light video editing now and again). Will wait and see what third party benchmarks have to say. Have to wait anyway as the BIOS for my B450 Gaming Pro Carbon won't be available until sometime next year. I see myself as having two options:

1: Stave off the upgrade itch as best as I can, and wait for AM5/DDR5 to come around and let that platform develop a bit before upgrading. Pros: Saves money; gets most possible use out of current hardware. Cons: Upgrade itch grows stronger, lying in wait, festering, gnawing at my psyche day after day.

2: Commit to an upgrade and go for something like a 5700 (Would be kinda cool to pair a 5700X with a 5700XT), pick up some new RAM (get outta here Vengeance LPX 3000 C15) after seeing what the best option to pair with Zen 3 is, and just ride AM4 into the sunset. Pros: Upgrade itch quelled (for a time); better single threaded performance for high(ish) refresh 1440p gaming; moar cores. Cons: A sad wallet
 
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With the move to a 3080 or Big Navi I'll be gaming at 1440p so my 8700K should be good for a little while longer.
But if I get that upgrade itch I might scratch.
 
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I'm happy to pick up a 5800X... but not at launch prices.
 
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I'm postponing a purchase because AMD has decided to make a quick buck and removed 5700X from the lineup. No way I'm downgrading from 3700X to 5600X and 5800X is too ****ing expensive, thank you very much.
Well, a $50 increase from $250 is indeed quite a lot, but a $50 increase from $500? Not so much. I still think it kind of sucks, but it mainly just demonstrates that AMD no longer feels they need to court the "hey, we're also here, we deliver decent performance at a lower price" image.

AMD fans on TPU are trying hard to justify the fact that AMD is now copying the worst monopolistic companies in the world by raising their prices quite significantly and that's a strange phenomenon I cannot quite understand. I mean they've always hated Intel and NVIDIA for offering the highest performance at not so good prices and now that AMD does exactly that, it's suddenly OK. WTF?!
Wake me up when AMD starts bribing OEMs to not use Intel and Nvidia parts, yeah? Until then, maybe take a step back and think again which actions you consider equivalent.

I keep hearing AMD needs money for R&D and ... Intel and NVIDIA do not? Really? These two companies use AI and aliens to develop new products, right? They get them basically for free? Is it how AMD fans rationalize AMD's worst behavior since Athlon 64 when they sold their CPUs at insane prices?
AMD was on the brink of bankruptcy five years ago. Intel has a cash hoard like nobody else in the tech industry save Apple. Nvidia isn't far behind. So yes, AMD has needed more money for R&D than the others, but it's not about them not needing it, it's about them already having it.
Quite agree with you. 3700X was great, while 5800X is the absolute worst in the new lineup.
Disagree - the 5600X is a much more noticeable price hike (though the bump in clock speeds is admittedly also bigger compared to its predecessors).
Can't speak for anyone else, but in my opinion the current high prices of Ryzen 5000 CPUs will help drain stocks of older-gen CPUs that may remain.
That sounds likely. They know they've got enough consumer trust to sell as a high end option for enthusiasts with money now, all the while they can clear out older products without cutting too heavily into their margins.

Here's hoping Intel actually manages to deliver something new and competitive (read: not another series of 250W CPUs) so that we can get some price competition going. But for now, in the short term, I think AMD has earned padding their margins some - but in the long term, there's obviously the risk that corporate greed will take over there too.
 
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I got my 3800X in April, and I'm the type to keep things mostly "as-is" for maybe 5 years or so.
 
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I think it likely this spring but I want to see some actual reviews and make sure there are no strange problems on them and give Linux a chance to take advantage of them. Though it would mostly be a win10 gaming machine.
But I'm tired of Intel though I really have no complaints about my old 5930k just a change would be interesting... haven't had an AMD since 486 day (clients always wanted Intel)... a good alternative is so nice to see!
 

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Eventually yes I will. I built this rig fully intending on putting a Zen3 in it at some point.
 
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I'm tempted to ditch my 9900k for a 5900X or 5950X but I'm also tempted to grab a 3090 once the availability normalizes. I've really liked my 3900X system and like the overall feel of it better than my Intel based system.

So it'll sorta depend on if I want to settle on a 3080 lol. I do want both my primary PC to be RTRT/DLSS capable so that's the priority.
 
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Not a single 0.01 Euro in the wallet of AMD..
I do not support any 100% Owned Chinese brands.
They are blind and deaf in the regard of influence by consumers voice, no matter the language in use.
What? Chinese owned? What are you talking about? AMD is a US-based publicly traded company with a large group of shareholders. According to Investopedia as of May 21st, its' three largest institutional shareholders are The Vanguard Group (US investment group), Blackrock Inc. (US investment group) and Fidelity Management & Research (US investment group). Two separate Vanguard mutual funds and one from Invesco Oppenheimer (also US-based) are also major shareholders. The three people with the biggest stakes in the company are all AMD executives. It might be that some of these companies are partly or wholly owned by Chinese companies or people, but they are all headquartered in and managed from the US.
 
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It might be that some of these companies are partly or wholly owned by Chinese companies or people, but they are all headquartered in and managed from the US.
They deliberately eliminate support about drivers for my VGA card.
Should I flaming them by the use of western text or in Chinese ?
The best that they can do this is them to replace my VGA BY A NEWER , if they give a shit for the happiness of their customers.
 
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They deliberately eliminate support about drivers for my VGA card.
Should I flaming them by the use of western text or in Chinese ?
The best that they can do this is them to replace my VGA BY A NEWER , if they give a shit for the happiness of their customers.
According to your profile system specs, your GPU is from 2009. Are you actually expecting driver support more than a decade after launch? If so: your expectations are very unrealistic. Looking at Nvidia's site, they didn't provide updated drivers for any longer for cards from the same era (both the 5770 and the GTX 280 had their last driver released in 2016).

And are you actually arguing that they owe you a new GPU because they "only" delivered updated drivers for ~6 years? Are you joking?

But regardless of that, you are pissed at them for not providing you support, so therefore you ... claim that you won't support them because they are Chinese-owned? I mean, not only is that factually wrong as I showed above, but it's also very weirdly racist. You really ought to take a step back and re-think things, because both your reasoning and your behavior here are ... quite problematic.
 
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System Name serenity now/Faithul Eight
Processor Amd 2400g/Amd 3800x
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Cooling CM Masterair G100M/Wraith
Memory G.skill 2x4gb 3200/2x16 gb 3600 G.skill
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Storage Apacer pcie ssd 240 gb/Adata 512gb nvme
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Case scratch build
Power Supply inter tech 650w 80+bronze/850 phantex pro
Software Ubuntu bionic beaver 18.04 lts/W10
Quite straight forward for me ,buy 3900x within a month or so then start rooting for Intel, somebody have to :D :pimp: all within my life span ,cool.
 
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System Name PC on since Aug 2019, 1st CPU R5 3600 + ASUS ROG RX580 8GB >> MSI Gaming X RX5700XT (Jan 2020)
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X (July 2022), 160W PPT limit, 75C temp limit, CO -9~14
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro (Rev1.0), BIOS F37h, AGESA V2 1.2.0.B
Cooling Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm Rev7 with off center mount for Ryzen, TIM: Kryonaut
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I will upgrade to ZEN3 from ZEN2 at some point. Like a year+ from now. Prices are a little steep now plus I don’t need it right now.

Even the 5600X will be an upgrade for me as I have now the 3600. Gaming and internet is all I do. Still I will decide this when time comes, probably between the 5800X and 5900X. Prices at that point will be major factor.

AMD knew from last round that a second 8core SKU would steal fame from the highest one like the 3700X vs 3800X. So they are pushing users to the 450$ price tag for 8cores.
This is frustrating for current 3700X users want to upgrade to ZEN3. For new AM4 users or the ones with under 3700X CPU things are little simpler.
If gaming is the main goal, even the 5600X will be faster than 3900X.
 
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