Possible upgrade.

[cookiemonster]

Hi I am hoping to upgrade to these,

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-10900k-s-1200-comet-lake-10-cores-20-threads-37ghz-53ghz-turbo-20mb-cache.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-aorus-master-intel-z490-s-1200-ddr4-sata3-3x-m2-sli-crossfire-25gbe-ax-wifi-bt51-usb-32-gen.

Will all of what I have in my system be compatible including my cpu cooler. Coolermaster Hyper T4 Intel and Amd Socket Heatpipe Cooling Fan.

 

[Tatty_One]

Should all be fine, a Socket 1151 cooler fits Socket 1200, just be aware that you're cooler may struggle with a 10900k, from the reviews I have read high end cooling is required to even sustain all core turbo boosts at their max let alone any overclocking you may want to do.

Check this out, look at the max turbo temp, you can also see how warm it gets with a small (ish) overclock with a Noctua NH-U12.

Intel Core i9-10900K Review - World's Fastest Gaming Processor

Intel's Core i9-10900K achieves highly impressive gaming performance thanks to its 10-core/20-thread design with up to 5.3 GHz. We compare three configurations in our 10900K review: all stock, boost limits removed, and a manual 5.1 GHz all-core overclock.

www.techpowerup.com

You will see on the conclusion page that W1z found a lot of thermal throttling, not sure how your cooler compares with the noctua but I would want something even better than that I think.

 

[cookiemonster]

Any ideas of an air cooler that would suit.

 

[dgianstefani]

U12A.

I would also go for the MSI Unify or Ace rather than that board.

 

[Tatty_One]

Depends really on budget and clearance but some top end ones include the u12A mentioned ^^^...……….

Deepcool Assassin III
Coolermaster MasterAir MA410m
Noctua NH-U14S

Best CPU Coolers 2020: Air and Liquid (AIO)

Here are the best CPU cooler solutions (air and liquid/AIO) for a range of systems, from small form-factor builds to overclocked big-rigs.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[cookiemonster]

I usually stick to Gigabyte Aorus boards how about this one

Gigabyte Intel Z490 AORUS ULTRA ATX Motherboard

Buy from Scan - Gigabyte AORUS ULTRA, Intel Z490, S 1200, DDR4, SATA3, 3x M.2, SLi/CrossFire, 2.5GbE, ax WiFi/BT5.1, USB 3.2 Gen2, ATX

www.scan.co.uk

 

[Tatty_One]

I usually stick to Gigabyte Aorus boards how about this one

Gigabyte Intel Z490 AORUS ULTRA ATX Motherboard

Buy from Scan - Gigabyte AORUS ULTRA, Intel Z490, S 1200, DDR4, SATA3, 3x M.2, SLi/CrossFire, 2.5GbE, ax WiFi/BT5.1, USB 3.2 Gen2, ATX

www.scan.co.uk

From what I can see, the power delivery is the same on your 2 boards mentioned so far so unless one has more of the features that you need over the other then prob go for the cheaper of the 2. I have a preference for MSI but only based on my personal experience with them, if you like and trust Gigabyte then that's good, as you get to the higher end a lot of these boards have similar power delivery in any case.

LGA1200 VRM list

Main 2020-09-05,LGA1200 VRM list by /u/qhfreddy,Format based on the AM4 VRM list by Cautilus,Thanks to asdkj1740 @OCN for compiling many sources in this thread: <a href="https://www.overclock.net/forum/6-intel-motherboards/1746916-1440a-madness-z490-vrm-discussion-thread-v2-5-6-5-20-a.html">http...

docs.google.com

 

[Bill_Bright]

Do note you may need to buy new RAM too if planning to use the Corsair 32GB (4x8) DDR4 Vengeance LPX 3000MHz Memory listed in your system specs. According to the specs in your SCAN motherboard link, that board supports

• DDR4 - 2133
• DDR4 - 2400
• DDR4 - 2666
• DDR4 - 2933
• DDR4 - 3200

I don't see 3000MHz there. However DDR4 3000 (O.C) is listed on the Gigabyte site. Verify with the board's QVL (qualified venders list/Memory Support List) your RAM is listed, or RAM with the same specs is listed to ensure compatibility. That CPU is listed in CPU QVL so no problems there.

Also, in terms of software licensing, a new motherboard constitutes a new computer. If your current Windows license is an OEM license, or is an upgrade based on an OEM license, you will need to purchase a new Windows license too as OEM licenses are not "legally" transferable to new computers under any circumstances. But if your current license is a full "Retail" license, or upgraded based on a full "Retail", then you can transfer that license to the new computer as long as you uninstall it from all other computers.

I note the Phantom 410 is a nice case with generous cooling options, but only comes with 2 x 120mm fans (front and rear) and 1 x 140mm blowhole (top) fan. Considering the heat related issues Tatty_One pointed out with that CPU, if you have not already, you might consider replacing the 120mm fans with 140mm where possible and/or adding more fans to increase the desired front-to-back flow of cool air through the case.

 

[cookiemonster]

Will do thank you all also I like the look of this one

Cooler Master MasteAir MA410M RGB CPU Cooler

Buy from Scan - Cooler Master MasteAir MA410M Single Tower CPU Cooler, 4 Heatpipes, 2x 120mm RGB Fans, Addressable RGB LEDs, Intel/AMD

www.scan.co.uk

 

[cookiemonster]

Hi sorry to be a pain but I still can't make up my mind on the CPU cooler, I get all ready to order and then change my mind I need help to choose between these two before my wife strangles me as she keeps on telling me to get it ordered.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/noctua-nh-d15-dual-radiator-quiet-cpu-cooler-with-two-nh-a15-fans.

Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator/Fan Intel/AMD CPU Cooler

Buy from Scan - Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler, 1x 140mm 1x 120mm PWM Fan, x6 Copper Heatpipes, Aluminium Fins, Intel/AMD

www.scan.co.uk

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[P4-630]

Or https://www.techpowerup.com/review/noctua-nh-u12a/

 

[Bill_Bright]

I need help to choose between these two

If those were my choices, I would go for the D15 simply because it is newer. The D14 is no longer in production and, as seen here, has been replaced by the D15.

HOWEVER - you need to make sure your case will support such a tall cooler. You might also download the installation manual now to make sure you understand, are familiar and are comfortable applying the TIM and mounting the cooler before it arrives.

 

[cookiemonster]

The total cooler hight is 165mm and I have from the motherboard 175mmand from the installation videos I have watched it looks one of the easiest I have seen to install.

 

[cookiemonster]

Items ordered today from Scan,

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-aorus-master-intel-z490-s-1200-ddr4-sata3-3x-m2-sli-crossfire-25gbe-ax-wifi-bt51-usb-32-gen

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-10900k-s-1200-comet-lake-10-cores-20-threads-37ghz-53ghz-turbo-20mb-cache

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/noctua-nh-d15-dual-radiator-quiet-cpu-cooler-with-two-nh-a15-fans

Scan is expecting delivery of the processor on 17th July and Will send everything out next day delivery I have just got to wait now I will let you know how things go. Thanks for the help and advice.

 

[cookiemonster]

PLEASE NOTE: Unfortunately, due to supplier constraint this product has been delayed further than originally advised. This delay affects all UK retailers. More stock is on the way and we will fulfil current pre orders as soon as we can. We appreciate your patience.

its hard to be patient

 

[cookiemonster]

Hi just had an e-mail in new estimated date is 14th August, bummer.

 

[cookiemonster]

Intel 10 Core i9 10900K Comet Lake CPU/Processor

We would firstly like to thank you for your patience in waiting for this chip. We have been in regular contact with Intel and it has become apparent to us that they will not be able to meet the most recent forecast of 14/08/20. We are seeking to gain accurate information but do not have a new lead date. As soon as we know, we will update you via our automated messaging service.

Latest update, what is going on.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Probably, at least in part, COVID-19.

 

[Tatty_One]

Intel 10 Core i9 10900K Comet Lake CPU/Processor

We would firstly like to thank you for your patience in waiting for this chip. We have been in regular contact with Intel and it has become apparent to us that they will not be able to meet the most recent forecast of 14/08/20. We are seeking to gain accurate information but do not have a new lead date. As soon as we know, we will update you via our automated messaging service.

Latest update, what is going on.

Can you get a refund? There are still some suppliers with them in stock, for example ..................

Intel Core i9 10900K 3.7GHz 10 Core CPU -

Available at CCL - Intel Core i9-10900K. 3.7GHz, 10 cores, 20 Threads, 20MB Cache & 125W TDP. Fits in Socket 1200 motherboards. No Cooler Included. , Mfg Code:

www.cclonline.com

or this is cheaper..............

Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - OEM

CM8070104282844, Hyper-Threading Technology, 10/20 Cores / Threads, 3.70GHz Clock Speed, 5.3GHz Single Core Max Turbo, 20mb Cache, 125W TDP, Dual Channel DDR4 Controller, 1 Year Warranty

www.overclockers.co.uk

 

[bug]

Any ideas of an air cooler that would suit.

It's complicated. Your cooler is fine, but the CPU itself is designed to boost higher with better cooling. It's up to you to decide how much legroom you want/need to give it.

 

[ThrashZone]

U12A.

I would also go for the MSI Unify or Ace rather than that board.

HI,
Going from 6 core to 10 core temp wise will nearly double
Dark rock pro 4

be quiet!

be quiet!

www.bequiet.com

B & H photo would likely ship to you

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[cookiemonster]

I think I will just wait as I usually use Scan and i have the three items under a Scan 28 day insurance from when they are delivered against accidents or damage while installing the items, as sometimes I can be a bit clumsy.

 

[cookiemonster]

Can anyone tell me what is the actual difference between the two of these.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-10900k-s-1200-comet-lake-10-cores-20-threads-37ghz-53ghz-turbo-20mb-cache

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-10900k-s-1200-comet-lake-10-cores-20-threads-37ghz-53ghz-turbo-20mb-cache-125w-oem

As the arrival date for the bow one is now 21st September.

 

[tigger]

Can anyone tell me what is the actual difference between the two of these.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-10900k-s-1200-comet-lake-10-cores-20-threads-37ghz-53ghz-turbo-20mb-cache

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-10900k-s-1200-comet-lake-10-cores-20-threads-37ghz-53ghz-turbo-20mb-cache-125w-oem

As the arrival date for the bow one is now 21st September.

Both seem the same to me. i thought 1 might be oem and other retail, but both look retail.

 

[cookiemonster]

Is it just that one comes in a fancy box.