PSU question. Help.

[Leoplate25]

Hi. I was reading the PSU Tier List and i'm a little confused. I have a Seasonic GX-850 and i saw a little number between brackets that has an explanation below. Is my PSU free of any risks/problems? Or is just the old GM and PRIME models that have issues? Thanks in advance. Cheers.

Tier List: https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

 

[Bill_Bright]

Are you having problems? If not, don't worry about it.

Sadly, lists like that often do nothing but raise fears and doubts when none are due. They often make people think "all" units of a particular model number (or, worse, "all" units in a series of model numbers), suffer from some flaw or defect that will cause some catastrophic event! It just isn't true. The reality is, only a handful of units had some issue, and of that handful, only a few affected the user.

So if your computer is stable, be happy. Seasonic PSUs earned their reputation for quality, safe and reliable service.

 

[dgianstefani]

The GX-850 is a great PSU, as is most that Seasonic release. I wouldn't worry about it. It's one of the models that don't support high end newer generation GPUs very well, due to the extreme transients. Hence the introduction of ATX 3.0 and new connectors etc.

 

[dirtyferret]

Is my PSU free of any risks/problems?

it has a sensitive OCP which your video card won't push so you have nothing to worry about, the PSU is not flawed and works as designed. I would not put much into any amateur tier list

Sadly, lists like that often do nothing but raise fears and doubts when none are due. They often make people think "all" units of a particular model number (or, worse, "all" units in a series of model numbers), suffer from some flaw or defect that will cause some catastrophic event! It just isn't true. The reality is, only a handful of units had some issue, and of that handful, only a few affected the user.

from your fingers to people's minds...if only

 

[dgianstefani]

Eh, those tier lists can be pretty informative, especially considering that units with few or no issues, and units with several, can often be priced around the same level. The list is giving the same advice that we are - PSU is fine unless you're using a 30/4080-90 tier card.

 

[dirtyferret]

especially considering that units with few or no issues, and units with several, can often be priced around the same level.

yes they can but they can also (and do sometimes) give out rankings simply based on brand/oem without any professional reviews or not explain fully what qualifies a PSU from one tier to another (this list does a better job than most) and how that impacts the "buyer". Obviously wasting money on a faulty PSU is bad but wasting money on PSU features that move units from one tier to another that you man not need is also not good. I think most of us that have been around long enough agree, if you are going to spend your hard earned money on something you should at least do a bit more research on it that just looking at a one list....at least two

 

[ThrashZone]

Eh, those tier lists can be pretty informative, especially considering that units with few or no issues, and units with several, can often be priced around the same level. The list is giving the same advice that we are - PSU is fine unless you're using a 30/4080-90 tier card.

Hi,
Seeing the op hasn't listed a gpu the above applies the most

 

[Bill_Bright]

Eh, those tier lists can be pretty informative, especially considering that units with few or no issues, and units with several, can often be priced around the same level.

That may be true "IF" the user is doing his or her homework, and researching products "BEFORE" selecting one for purchase, AND they use that list as just one of several sources of information and not the sole source.

But when consulted after the purchase, I still contend they often simply add unwarranted fears and doubts.

I would also contend that not all of those lists, or the sites that compile them, are equal.

So me, I would trust the professional review sites long before a PSU Tier List from a relatively unknown site that has barely been around a year!

 

[dirtyferret]

Hi,
Seeing the op hasn't listed a gpu the above applies the most

according to sig and assuming it's not outdated, he has a RTX 3060 12GB

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Think @freeagent had a lot of fun with a prime psu lately so they are not perfect
Know another dude "Doll psu expert" that went through 1.5 years of build hell finally figuring out his prime was defective
Last hardware he replaced
Other wardware was repeatedly replaced board/ cpu/.... hardware store cursed his existence EU and all they had to replace what he brought back

 

[dirtyferret]

Think @freeagent had a lot of fun with a prime psu lately so they are not perfect
Know another dude "Dolly" that went through 1.5 years of build hell finally figuring out his prime was defective

I don't think any of us (so far) are pushing the seasonic kool aid that they and only they have some magic sauce to make great PSU, in fact in a lot of posts I have been more critical of them than most. I do believe there was a design flaw with certain Prime units (the OP has a GX so not his) but you would need to do some research on the which exact ones and the issue itself.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Sure reviews do tell a lot about a psu, but counting on just reviews and/or just one source is not doing your homework. Respectable PSU lists take into consideration not just reviews but also reported personal experience in their rank categories.

Brands dont mean crap, those that think so havent done their homework. Brand reputation should be taken with a grain of salt, each one has had its share of failures from bad design and/or quality.

 

[freeagent]

My GX750 had a real hard time driving my rig at full load with F@H while using my 5900X. I was seeing 650w at the wall and the PSU would trip, and I would have to flip the switch. It is running fine in my second rig. I was forced to buy a 750w G+ when I bought my GPU, and it can handle the same task for weeks on end with no troubles. My 3070 Ti can do 325w on the core, and 290w board power.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Sure reviews do tell a lot about a psu, but counting on just reviews and/or just one source is not doing your homework.

Umm, I don't see where anyone suggested anyone should rely on just reviews, or just one source.

Regardless, this thread is NOT about doing one's homework before purchase. It is about referring to a specific tier list (not "all" lists) and this thread is about a PSU the user has already purchased. He is not doing his homework before buying.

And again - not all tier lists are created equal. I personally never heard of that list before today. Who has? Of course, me not being aware of that list means nothing to you. But to me, as an electronics technician who promotes feeding our electronics good, clean stable power, I do feel I am much more current than the typical user.

I also note that particular site does not list where they got their data.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

My GX750 had a real hard time driving my rig at full load with F@H while using my 5900X. I was seeing 650w at the wall and the PSU would trip, and I would have to flip the switch. It is running fine in my second rig. I was forced to buy a 750w G+ when I bought my GPU, and it can handle the same task for weeks on end with no troubles. My 3070 Ti can do 325w on the core, and 290w board power.

Did you contact seasonic? They replaced my 850W Prime TX that was shutting down trying to run my 3080ti.... Although all my 850w and 750w psu behaved the same way with this particular card.

 

[thewan]

Are you having problems? If not, don't worry about it.

Sadly, lists like that often do nothing but raise fears and doubts when none are due. They often make people think "all" units of a particular model number (or, worse, "all" units in a series of model numbers), suffer from some flaw or defect that will cause some catastrophic event! It just isn't true. The reality is, only a handful of units had some issue, and of that handful, only a few affected the user.

So if your computer is stable, be happy. Seasonic PSUs earned their reputation for quality, safe and reliable service.

I think many ppl here, especially this duck, are misunderstanding what OP posted.

The OP is asking whether he should be concerned about the issues that may or may not be associated with his PSU model. While such issues is what influences "Tier Rankings", OP does not say that he is worried about the "Tier" of his particular PSU. Useful or not, if these Tier lists post valid reasons why a PSU has a lower or higher Tier, especially when it is related to reproducible performance or reliability issues by many users, one should either avoid buying such power supplies or avoid situations which trigger such issues. That is what OP is concerned about.
All because an avoidable issue hasn't manifested yet, doesn't meant that it won't appear in the future, especially when there are many other documented cases from other users telling about the same issue.
Please don't tell people to not be concerned with problems that later may involve lost of work, game play progress, other hardware, monetary, or worse, lives. They should be concerned and they have a right to be concerned.

 

[Bill_Bright]

The OP is asking whether he should be concerned about the issues that may or may not be associated with his PSU model. Please don't tell people to not be concerned

Not one person in this thread told the user not to be "concerned". In fact, the OP didn't say he was concerned either - despite your false claims. We told him if his system is working, do not "worry" about it.

Difference Between Concern and Worry | Concern vs Worry

 

[xtreemchaos]

any PSU can fail at any time but seasonic is a very good make and in my view less likely to fail than most + most come with 10 year cover or more.

 

[Leoplate25]

Well, i went to sleep with no comments and now i have tons, lol.
Thank you all for your comments and recommendations. At last, is the PSU going to trigger if i buy a 3080/3090 or not? This is what bother me. Thanks again!!!

 

[dirtyferret]

ASUS ROG PSU's are made with Seasonic parts.

they are made by seasonic (same platform as your GX), the parts come from various vendors

At last, is the PSU going to trigger if i buy a 3080/3090 or not? This is what bother me. Thanks again!!!

hard to tell without testing it using a specific model you plan to buy. I would definitely contact Seasonic customer service with your model# if that is a path you plan to take (purchasing a high power video card) as they did make some platform updates to later models.

 

[Leoplate25]

they are made by seasonic (same platform as your GX), the parts come from various vendors


hard to tell without testing it using a specific model you plan to buy. I would definitely contact Seasonic customer service with your model# if that is a path you plan to take (purchasing a high power video card) as they did make some platform updates to later models.

Hi. Can i ask you something. We live in a country without many options to buy parts and if you find the part you want, prepare your wallet. My cousin wants to buy a PSU. It's between two options: 1) Thermaltake GF1 850W Gold and Corsair RM850 White Gold (2021 model). Which one do you recommend?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Best you can do is contact seasonic
See if your batch is new or old and also if you have a new version cable
.

 

[xtreemchaos]

id go for the RM850 Gold only because have one for my test bench and its never let me down and its quiet.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Well, i went to sleep with no comments and now i have tons, lol.
Thank you all for your comments and recommendations. At last, is the PSU going to trigger if i buy a 3080/3090 or not? This is what bother me. Thanks again!!!


I think, ASUS ROG PSU's are made with Seasonic parts.

My 850w EVGA, Corsair, Seasonic power supplies all shut down with an EVGA 3080ti ftw they did not with a PNY 3090 so it can be a specific brand of a card while others are fine. I also tested a 3080 10G ftw3 without any system shut downs.

 

[Leoplate25]

Thank you all, again, for your quick answers and support. I'll contact Seasonic. I said this before, and i repeat it: this is the best forum. Period.