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Questions about X850Pro AGP

Racer X said:
Hi all,

I hope this thread is still getting viewed. I have a question for the successful flashers and/or the think tank involved with this BIOS flash. I bought an ATI X850 Pro VIVO AGP from Best Buy yesterday. It appears to be the exact same one that everyone else is buying. I have tried unsucessfully for the better part of this evening to unlock the extra 4 pipes but to this piont I am unsucessful. I have tried several different BIOS, I tried flashing the "empty.bin" first then the X850XTPE BIOS, I used the flashrom as well as the atiflash but every time I reboot after a flash, ATITool tells me I have only 12 active pipes. Can it be that I have an X850 Pro that can't be modded? The UPC sticker on the side of the box says "RAD X850XT AGP" and it has the yellow connector and I believe 16ns chips. I don't understand why it won't mod. I am using the -f command with the flashrom. Anybody have any ideas...?

Thanks in advance for any info/thoughts.

edit: I reinstalled the 5.9 Cats and ATITool after I posted this message but it didn't seem to make any difference. Still showing 12 pipelines. Just thought I would add that...
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http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367 post what it says to do in the first post :)
 
I was looking at the post you linked to. It looks like I am screwed. Here are my settings...

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFE
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xa60

What do you think?

BTW, thanks for the quick reply.
 
Racer X said:
I was looking at the post you linked to. It looks like I am screwed. Here are my settings...

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFE
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xa60

What do you think?

BTW, thanks for the quick reply.
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yah looks that way to me too :(

but just incase are you using the moded flashrom or atiflash with the -newbios switch?
 
I've tried it both ways. I tried an XT and an XTPE BIOS but neither one will unlock the last 4 pipes. Do you think this "hardlocking" has anything to do with how old the card is? As in maybe finding one that has been hanging around a retail store for a while it might have a better chance of unlocking? I was hoping with the X850XT sticker on the side it was just a rebadged card and would mod easily. It is still quite a bit faster than the 6600GT I pulled out of this system, but I am kind of bummed about the BIOS mod. May I will pick another card up and see if it mods, then return the one that didn't in its original condition.
I dunno at this point...

Thanks again for your input.

The funny thing is, Circuit City has the X850XT AGP for $319 with free shipping. I guess I was hoping for too much getting a 16 pipe X850 (BIOS modded) for less than $250...
 
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Racer X said:
I've tried it both ways. I tried an XT and an XTPE BIOS but neither one will unlock the last 4 pipes. Do you think this "hardlocking" has anything to do with how old the card is? As in maybe finding one that has been hanging around a retail store for a while it might have a better chance of unlocking? I was hoping with the X850XT sticker on the side it was just a rebadged card and would mod easily. It is still quite a bit faster than the 6600GT I pulled out of this system, but I am kind of bummed about the BIOS mod. May I will pick another card up and see if it mods, then return the one that didn't in its original condition.
I dunno at this point...

Thanks again for your input.
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if possible get them to give you another one :) (one that didn't come with the latest shipment :))
 
ermmm.. try 2 make d fan mal function n burn it lor.. .so can rma... hahahaa
 
Maybe I will return the card for another at BB. I have flashed the original BIOS back and it is working perfectly as a 12-pipe card right now.
Of course now the question is do I gamble for another card that may unlock or do I just bite the bullet and order a true X850XT from Circuit City for $319 with free shipping? That one should do XTPE speeds, is a true 16-pipe card and has a better cooling solution but is also $70 more than what I paid for the Pro.

(Actually I just noticed that Best Buy has the BFG 6800GT OC for $299 this week. And it's in stock all around here. Too bad the XTPE will kill it in almost everything.)

Hmmm... now what? :confused:
 
Hi,
i'm new here, but i also just bought a x850 pro vivo from bestbuy. I've been following the threads and all, but just one thing. Do any of you know where i can find a step-by-step instruction on how to flash a bios. I downloaded the atiflash, the x850xt bios, and the flashrom, but i've never used these apps before. Your help would be appreciated.
thanks!
 
dko said:
Hi,
i'm new here, but i also just bought a x850 pro vivo from bestbuy. I've been following the threads and all, but just one thing. Do any of you know where i can find a step-by-step instruction on how to flash a bios. I downloaded the atiflash, the x850xt bios, and the flashrom, but i've never used these apps before. Your help would be appreciated.
thanks!
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http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=417884

I finally have 16 pipes now after 3 trys lol, someone should mentioned that i needed to re-install my drivers in order to see 16 pipes in ATitool. I was checking in VGA mode:twitch: duh.
 
dun 4get 2 tell him bout d fan prob also..

dko i think u should try asking willard... he writes a lot of articles n i m sure he can help u on that... good luck ^^
 
sniviler,
still don't understand about the bootdisk. Can i use the flashrom16p utility to make the disk and copy the new bios and flashrom executable files on there. Or do i actually have to make a bootdisk from some other utility. Maybe already in windows xp somewhere? I don't know. Please help me for the love of god!
selrahc,
i think i know about the fan prob, but can't i fix that by flashing my old bios after successfully (and hopefully) flashing the new one, right.
thanks for the help ppl.
 
dko said:
sniviler,
still don't understand about the bootdisk. Can i use the flashrom16p utility to make the disk and copy the new bios and flashrom executable files on there. Or do i actually have to make a bootdisk from some other utility. Maybe already in windows xp somewhere? I don't know. Please help me for the love of god!
selrahc,
i think i know about the fan prob, but can't i fix that by flashing my old bios after successfully (and hopefully) flashing the new one, right.
thanks for the help ppl.
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DKO ... just use the article W1zzard wrote here .. has all the information you need
 
okay,
i think i got it. But anyone know the command i should use to flash my original bios. Also, do i even need to use the ATIflash to do this. Could i just use the backup bios with the mod flashrom?
HOpefully i can get this to happen today!
 
well, i'm not sure i prevailed, cuz when i rebooted, my screen was all jacked up. I think my card was running at core540 mem590 (xtpe settings?) cuz' i think there were artifacts everywhere. I went back to DOS and flashed my original bios. Everything is back to normal, and i still have 12 pipelines. =~(
I'm gonna update my ati drivers and maybe it'll show up? Or maybe i need to download the x850xt and not the x850xtpe bios and try that? Cuz' i know my card can handle that. what do you guys think?
 
Okay,
i guess i was right about the bios being xtpe vs. xt. I used the xt bios and installed the ati drivers, and i finally got the 16 pipelines. I didn't want the fan problem, so i flashed back the original bios using the modified flashrom typing in the command "flashrom -f -p 0 backup.bin"
When i went back to check the pipelines again with atitool, it said that i had 12 pipelines!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe i need to use the atiflash to flashback the original/backup vs. using the modified flashrom? what do you guys think?
 
success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks everyone! Urlyin, thanks for the link. It was very helpful with the whole bootdisk and bios info. BTW, anyone have any suggestions for settings for core and mem, and fan speed if my computer is completely stock?
 
Just to let everyone know,here is another successful mod to 16pipes:D.Im also back on my original pro bios to get the fan control back...
 
dko said:
success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks everyone! Urlyin, thanks for the link. It was very helpful with the whole bootdisk and bios info. BTW, anyone have any suggestions for settings for core and mem, and fan speed if my computer is completely stock?
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Use ATItool
 
ati tool say mine is running on variable. ive got mine at 560 core and 600 mem. i hit aroung 70 degrees celcius, but from what i read this is ok.
 
i just flashed my x850pro to a x850xtpe and opened up all 16 pipes. but the temps were really high. like 60c at idle and close to 80c at load. i used modified flashrom to program bios and then i reloaded my old bios with ati tool. this left the 4 extra pipes unlocked. now my temps are 38c at idle and about 65 at load. my fan is still runs at varible speed. hope this helps
 
sean 478,
just bought the zalman zf700cu..i think you recommended it. I don't think you can get fan control with it cuz' it can't plug into the video cards 3prong thingy...so in this case would i even bother flashing back to the x850pro bios...cuz technically i wouldn't regain fan control with this fan, right?
 
pull the white housing off of the pins and it will fit perfectly onto the fan plug :)

but yah the fan controll bios is for people who still use stock cooling :) and other coolers that plug into the card
 
okay,
problem guys. Had successfully softmodded my x850pro to 16 pipelines, and atiflashed it back to the original bios. Temps and core and mem were fine. Got the zalman vf700cu fan 2 days ago, installed it, and it fried my card. when i looked at it, the heatsink wasn't making good contact with the gpu, so i suspected that this was the problem. went bestbuy yesterday, got new x850pro, and reinstalled the zalman fan, took the white 3prong housing off the card, and plugged it in. Fan did not work and idling temps were way to high. so now i thought the fan doesnt' work. Well, put all the stock ati fans and parts back on , and the fan is still NOT working! What the heck is going on? Is there something wrong with my agp port now? I have no idea. Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that i put a new card in, even though the same drivers are all in there. should i uninstall and reinstall atitool?
suggestions would be great. Maybe i got too greedy about the pushing the limits. now i just want the stock card (or fan...the card works but right now my idling temps are at 67C)to work!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
did you set the fan to 100% manually using ATitools ?
 
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