Review of Ryzen 2700X - X470

[GirlyMan]

Reading the reviews I am very impressed with AMD.
I'm still glad I got an 8700k instead of upgrading my Ryzen system.
IMO AMD released exactly what they needed to release.
They actually have a high end desktop solution that is just as good as Intel's at stock speeds.

I don’t want to be mean or alarmist here but the Spectre and Meltdown issues cannot be fully patched on any Intel platform, why would anyone care about a few FPS over having a totally undetectable security vulnerability that doesn’t require terminal access.
I’m running a 3770k build I’m totally happy with but am moving to AMD because of these issues.
Intel cannot patch there flaws they are hardware based, guess there PR worked wonders as it seems most everyone forgets that.

 

[Whitestar]

...the Spectre and Meltdown issues cannot be fully patched on any Intel platform

They can't? I haven't followed all this GPZ mess but I thought there were firmware patches for both platforms?

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I don’t want to be mean or alarmist here but the Spectre and Meltdown issues cannot be fully patched on any Intel platform, why would anyone care about a few FPS over having a totally undetectable security vulnerability that doesn’t require terminal access.
I’m running a 3770k build I’m totally happy with but am moving to AMD because of these issues.
Intel cannot patch there flaws they are hardware based, guess there PR worked wonders as it seems most everyone forgets that.

I don't really care if they patch it or not.
Considering the type of attack I'm not concerned in the slightest.

 

[GirlyMan]

They can't? I haven't followed all this GPZ mess but I thought there were firmware patches for both platforms?

There are patches to help mitigate the problem or reduce risk on the Intel platform I guess but these are hardware level flaws so I’m not sure how and are completely undetectable meaning you’d never know or really be able to tell if you’d been compromised and is why it was such a huge deal, it allows data to be taken from a hardware level somehow and cannot be detected in any normal software manner. Everyone went very quiet about things after the initial findings so I’d imagine it’s super bad or Intel would have said “everything’s ok” by now and instead of that we get silence. Again don’t want to be alarmist because this stuff is way over my head but all of it put huge red flags up across the whole industry and no ones come forward saying things are fixed. What does seem clear though is that AMD did not have the same hardware level unfixable issue.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Oh... I already have Microcode update 84...
And apparently every review I've seen has mentioned the most up to date of everything... So
I am pretty sure the 8700k is still King by a hair...
That's seriously awesome for AMD.
Slightly cheaper with a cool heatsink...on a known not dead platform.

 

[eidairaman1]

Different testing methodology. Ok but why it must be wrong? Different doesn't mean wrong. Especially if people here agree that Anandtech is a genuine benchmarking site.
Anyway i'm pleased with the Ryzen 2700x The question is now. Do I really need to upgrade or leave it as it is for now.
AMD did good job in my opinion

For the upgrade path might be worth it

Oh... I already have Microcode update 84...
And apparently every review I've seen has mentioned the most up to date of everything... So
I am pretty sure the 8700k is still King by a hair...
That's seriously awesome for AMD.
Slightly cheaper with a cool heatsink...on a known not dead platform.

The WraithMax in person is a sweet stock cooler.

 

[ratirt]

With my current CPU I'm sure it is looking for honest opinion

 

[evernessince]

For anyone interested in my experience, I just got my 2700X in today. It boosts to 4.35 GHz on two cores as advertised but most of the time it sits at 4.25 GHz. When in a stress test the cores don't drop below 4 GHz. Max temp is 88c (78c after the 10c offset is removed) after 8 hours of y-cruncher.

What's odd is I'm not getting DDR4 3200 with my RAM as I was with my Ryzen 1700. I'm going to chalk that up to ASRock needing to update the X370 Taichi to the latest Agesa code. As it stands they are two revisions behind.

They can't? I haven't followed all this GPZ mess but I thought there were firmware patches for both platforms?

The patches applied so far can only mitigate Spectre/Meltdown, not completely prevent them. Intel won't have full protection until 2 hardware gens from now.

 

[Tropicocity]

I learned that the hard way (hence my home computer and the one in my sig is intel work computer AMD)... the 2700x does look like it closed the gap -but it's very unlikely that Zen+ is going to beat an 8600/8700k in gaming when both are clocked / tuned to their maximum potential.

Maybe in newer games.

Did you make the switch from a 4790k to a 1700x or something? I'm sitting in my 4670k and looking to upgrade very soon as I already got a ram deal

 

[Whitestar]

Here's Adored TV's take on the Ryzen 2700X, reviews and whatnot:

 

[gasolin]

Wort upgrading mb from X370 to X470 ?

 

[eidairaman1]

Wort upgrading mb from X370 to X470 ?

If you have a Crosshair 6 Hero/Extreme or Taichi/Fatal1ty already, no not worth it, just add cooling where need be. If coming from A320/and some B350s from GA/MSI/Biostar, yes.

Bear in mind there are talks of the Z490 Chipset too, might be the top to go for if moving from x370.