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Now let's forget the 02/20 cents or whatever it is, so @Liviu Cojocaru what card are you using and does it mine 24/7?
 
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Would there be any advantages to running a setup with two PSU's over one ? Power wise as I'm sure a good gold rated 1000w+ will have plenty of cables I need. I only plan on running 4-5 1060's. If I decide to do 1070's then 3 for now.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3519124

This combo deal is why I'm confused btw, it's about the cost of one good PSU
 

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Now I am at a crossroads I just snagged another 480 and I am trying to decide if I should flash the BIOS and make it mine or sell it on ebay lol
I would sell it on ebay, I am getting rid of AMD cards at 2 per day.
 

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Would there be any advantages to running a setup with two PSU's over one ? Power wise as I'm sure a good gold rated 1000w+ will have plenty of cables I need. I only plan on running 4-5 1060's. If I decide to do 1070's then 3 for now.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3519124

This combo deal is why I'm confused btw, it's about the cost of one good PSU

So far i have seen 6 cards mining rig and they use 2 x 750W PSU's, the mining Machine i am building has 4 cards and i am using 2 PSUs one 750W for a 1080 and 1070 and one 650W for 2 x 1060.
 
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So far i have seen 6 cards mining rig and they use 2 x 750W PSU's, the mining Machine i am building has 4 cards and i am using 2 PSUs one 750W for a 1080 and 1070 and one 650W for 2 x 1060.
1k watt psu can power all of that easily.
 

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1k watt psu can power all of that easily.

I know but because i am almost sure i will replace the 1060 and maybe even the 1070 that's why i have 2 PSUs.
 
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So far i have seen 6 cards mining rig and they use 2 x 750W PSU's, the mining Machine i am building has 4 cards and i am using 2 PSUs one 750W for a 1080 and 1070 and one 650W for 2 x 1060.
Okay, so pretty much just more power. That's what I figured I just couldn't find a solid reason why I would want 2 PSU's over 1 as long as I have sufficient power delivered to the cards I plan on using.
 

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Depends on the power requirements. I guess I would if I had to, but I'd prefer one big bastard PSU over two.

Anyone remember the little 5.25 power supply that was specifically for powering your graphics card?
 

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Anyone remember the little 5.25 power supply that was specifically for powering your graphics card?

Sorry i am too young ( 38 ) to remember that :roll:
 
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I know but because i am almost sure i will replace the 1060 and maybe even the 1070 that's why i have 2 PSUs.
I saw this guy on youtube power 8 1070s with 814 power draw from a 1k psu. He power throttled it down and still got nice hashing speed.
 

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I saw this guy on youtube power 8 1070s with 814 power draw from a 1k psu. He power throttled it down and still got nice hashing speed.

I like the idea to see 2 PSUs in my Mining Machine:D better said i will see 2 PSU's
 

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Sorry i am too young ( 38 ) to remember that :roll:
These were somewhat recent, within the last 10 years for sure. I think at best it had 2 pci-e 6 pins...

I like the idea to see 2 PSUs in my Mining Machine:D better said i will see 2 PSU's
It's probably better to get one big ass power supply.
 
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I wanted to say that you can do mining essentially in 2 ways (but with (*) bonus)
1) Do it using your normal PC (that you use for everything else), so on the single GPU you have inside
1*) if possible, you can put more GPUs in your desktop just for mining
2) Get a - how I called it - purpose-built mining rig. I mean: a separate desktop that's only purpose is to run mining 24/7.

So (1) is pretty straightforward - your only cost is electricity and faster hardware wear (I'm putting extra heat and noise aside).
(1*) is just like (1), but you're actually investing money into GPUs - now it's not just simple making extra cash by leaving your PC on - you have to think about ROI and so on.
However, (2) is a big commitment, because it takes a lot of space, produces a lot of heat and noise. Also the maintenance complications are much higher.

So what I meant is: I don't find (2) to be attractive at all in my case. I don't have time to worry about these rigs, I don't have a place to keep them (I live in a flat). And that's despite the fact that I'm in PL, so electricity is pretty cheap and - more importantly - the relative value of 1 EUR for me could be 4x more than for you in DE.

Mine is 19 pence per k/h which is 0.22 Euro or 25 cents
That is quite a lot, to be honest. Did prices go up in UK compared to 2016 or maybe you have a relatively expensive supplier?
Once again, according to EUROSTAT data (http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Electricity_price_statistics) for UK one kWh had costed (mid-year prices in GBP):
2014: 0,160
2015: 0,152
2016: 0,151
Now let's forget the 02/20 cents or whatever it is
Those are free hardware, where i work ( Airport ) we get a shopping card and every year we get 1500€ bonus, but you cant withdraw that money you can just buy in some stores, local and online.
I don't get the math behind some of your posts.
Electricity cost is one of the more severe in coin mining (especially for those not very limited by space). Depending on card efficiency and electricity price it will consume a lot of mining revenue. For a GTX1060 in US that could be as low as 10% (but still a lot of money). For an RX580 in UK (based on price mentioned by @CAPSLOCKSTUCK ) it would be around 30%.
And that's just the GPU - the rest of the rig also draws power. And then there's the PSU efficiency...
I'm sorry to say, but, since Germany has one of the highest electricity prices in Europe, it is quite possible that electricity cost will consume even as much as 50% of your mining inflows.

But even more importantly: how can you say that this is "free hardware"?! You get part of your salary in a form of a voucher. This is real money. You've spent it on PC stuff, so you can't buy something else.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of when listening to some coin mining "adventures". People don't consider electricity costs at all ("I pay high bills anyway"), they don't analyze GPU amortization and they don't control the actual result on this investment.
What I mean is: if someone is putting all of his mining revenue into getting more mining hardware (which seems to be a very popular approach), he's not making ANY money at all. In financial terms he's just increasing equity (the value of his "company"). When mining boom stops (GPUs stop being profitable) he'll be left with a huge Insolvenzmasse with very low value (as we know that used GPUs will become very cheap). And of course he'll also have a huge electricity bill to pay.
 
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Depends on the power requirements. I guess I would if I had to, but I'd prefer one big bastard PSU over two.

Anyone remember the little 5.25 power supply that was specifically for powering your graphics card?

you mean those aux power supplies that mounted in a 5.25 inch bay? never used one but i remember adds for them.

also im about to go with a 1200 watt HP server supply with breakout board and a pico psu that is also powered by the breakou board so i only need the one server psu to run mobo and cards.

my current evga g2 850 is running at 700 watts from the wall dual mining with a 390, 2 470s and 460. so to add another card (thinking of a 1070) it will be too much.
 

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I would sell it on ebay, I am getting rid of AMD cards at 2 per day.

Haha I got another one for $200 today. Trying to decide if I should sell it too. No bites on ebay with the other one yet. Makes me nervous the bubble is almost dead, but it's also only been like 12hrs haha
 

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You get part of your salary in a form of a voucher. This is real money. You've spent it on PC stuff, so you can't buy something else.

It has nothing to do with my salary, it is just a bonus i get because in a year a never missed one day at work and i wasn't late, simple, you are right maybe i should spend it buying something else but the fact is that the bonus from last year i never used because i didn't need anything and the same this year and if i didn't buy hardware with that money i don't know for how long i wouldn't use it.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of when listening to some coin mining "adventures".People don't consider electricity costs at all

Not in my case, i bought what i needed and now i am done, now it is time to let the Mining Machine run and make a few €, believe me i do consider electricity costs, to run a 1080,1070 and 2 x 1060 cost me around 1100€ yearly, on Monday i will let you know how much exactly i should pay yearly.

if someone is putting all of his mining revenue into getting more mining hardware (which seems to be a very popular approach),

I wouldn't do that, that is stupidity, what i get paid is for the Electricity bill and the rest i save it.

According to some calculations i have done i should earn around +5,619.96€ -1100€ electricity cost 4519.96€ net, that is running 4 GPUs without the 1080 Classified.
 
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Haha I got another one for $200 today. Trying to decide if I should sell it too. No bites on ebay with the other one yet. Makes me nervous the bubble is almost dead, but it's also only been like 12hrs haha
I only do auctions, but make sure that your account has good amount of feedback for that.
 

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Depends on the power requirements. I guess I would if I had to, but I'd prefer one big bastard PSU over two.

Anyone remember the little 5.25 power supply that was specifically for powering your graphics card?
I used to have this one:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153037

I cannot remember what year... Was either 2007 or 2008.

I almost bought three1070's the other day to start mining, but I just couldn't rationalize that this "trend" will continue. It may and I will wish I had or it may not. Plus, my wife would have not been happy:)
 
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I used to have this one:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153037

I cannot remember what year... Was either 2007 or 2008.

I almost bought three1070's the other day to start mining, but I just couldn't rationalize that this "trend" will continue. It may and I will wish I had or it may not. Plus, my wife would have not been happy:)

:laugh:


I started on the 17th mining using nicehash. At the start nicehash was reporting ~$5.50 a day and it fluctuated up and down but not too much. On the 23rd it as at $4.50 a day, it took a while (6 days) On the 26th it hit an all time low of $2.60 a day, this was only 3 days after I couldn't believe how quickly it had dove. Right now as I type it's back up to $3.68 a day and while not as stable as when I first started it is improving once again.

This is the information I can give you to make a decision on whether or not to start mining. My payout was $40USD after ~10 days, I used it to buy some games in the Steam summer sale. I was pretty happy about it to be frank. :p

Here in Canada a 1070 costs $50 less than a 1080, if this is the case where you are I would just buy 1080s and mine Zcash. Plus you'll have 1080s instead of 1070s :p



I have been considering selling my 1070 and buying a 1080 I wonder how much I could get for it atm. :)
 

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Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro :: ASUS Prime H570-Plus
Cooling Cryorig M9 :: Stock
Memory 4x4GB DDR3 2133 :: 2x8GB DDR4 2400
Video Card(s) PNY GTX1070 :: Integrated UHD 630
Storage Crucial MX500 1TB, 2x1TB Seagate RAID 0 :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, 3x4TB Seagate HDD RAID5
Display(s) Onn 165hz 1080p :: Acer 1080p
Case Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - Bose Companion 2 Series III :: None
Power Supply FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550
Software Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores >9000
The market is volatile, yes, but I believe there's money to be made if I hang in.
 
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