RX 480/470/460 Owners Club

[Tallencor]

LEAVE IT ALONE AND USE msi AB or Trizz and forget about the LED crap

+1

 

[Ungari]

Did you read my question in post #258?

I haven't installed a single OC program till I got a vote from ya all

Still waiting.

Yes, I read it.
No need to wait, as you can have more than one utility installed, and I wanted to see what the Factory Reset button would read in Afterburner.
I've tried NZXT CAM, Sapphire Trixx, Afterburner, but with the all the driver updates and improvements I vote Radeon WattMan.

One problem I found with Trixx is that the Voltage often resets to Zero Offset, I only like to use it to play with my LEDs and Fan Curve. If messing with Voltage, use Radeon WattMan to be safe.

 

[fullinfusion]

How or why cant I get the cards fans to spin all the time?

 

[fullinfusion]

what a slow site tonight!

 

[cdawall]

Set minimum and target to full speed on the fan control.

 

[KainXS]

on mine I just installed the gaming app and then turned off zero frozr, then the fans will always spin.

 

[fullinfusion]

on mine I just installed the gaming app and then turned off zero frozr, then the fans will always spin.

I think zero frozer just spins the fans full rpm for 10-15 seconds as a quick cool down.

 

[Ungari]

Guys, don't flash your BIOS with the "Gaming App", just manually OC or Under-clock the card yourself.
The only BIOS Profile that is really useful is the Quiet Mode with it's stock clockspeeds and very low fan curve, but once you save it to your BIOS memory, never flash it again and just manually OC from there.
The Gaming Mode and OC Mode isn't a high enough difference in frequency to make any sense.

 

[fullinfusion]

Guys, don't flash your BIOS with the "Gaming App", just manually OC or Under-clock the card yourself.
The only BIOS Profile that is really useful is the Quiet Mode with it's stock clockspeeds and very low fan curve, but once you save it to your BIOS memory, never flash it again and just manually OC from there.
The Gaming Mode and OC Mode isn't a high enough difference in frequency to make any sense.

you going on about flashing the BIOS with the Gaming app?

You do know its just pre set settings that has noting to do with flashing the bios right

 

[erixx]

Hey funnies! I just ordered a STrix 470 for cheap, price close to 1050Ti. As it is for a living room pc, power stats don't bother me, i will use it maybe 2 hours a week (weekends). This will be my first Ati card of the decade.

 

[Ungari]

you going on about flashing the BIOS with the Gaming app?

You do know its just pre set settings that has noting to do with flashing the bios right

The 900 Series of the MSI and ASUS cards used to have a physical switch to go between factory presets which were stored in the separate BIOS memory chips.
With MSI and ASUS Nvidia 10XX and AMD Polaris cards, this has been changed as a cost saving measure to where their 3rd Party software(MSI Gaming App) flashes the single BIOS chip to the preset modes.

This is from a TPU discussion where JayTwoCents mentions flashing his review card back to the "Gaming Mode":
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...-than-retail-cards.223440/page-3#post-3474403

 

[fullinfusion]

The 900 Series of the MSI and ASUS cards used to have a physical switch to go between factory presets which were stored in the separate BIOS memory chips.
With MSI and ASUS Nvidia 10XX and AMD Polaris cards, this has been changed as a cost saving measure to where their 3rd Party software(MSI Gaming App) flashes the single BIOS chip to the preset modes.

This is from a TPU discussion where JayTwoCents mentions flashing his review card back to the "Gaming Mode":
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...-than-retail-cards.223440/page-3#post-3474403

I have a thread in here somewhere on the MSI R9 290/290X with bios updates and such that I acquired Directly from MSI.

One bios would be for the highest (APP) setting and the other was one I saved from the card that be the factory clocks.

That way you didn't need the APP installed but personally I love the card right where she is.. well this one not the 290x...

RX 480 1303/2000 Mhz

And thanks, Ill check him out right now *edit* a TPU link and not a video... I love Jay's vids... he's the man

 

[Ungari]

That controversy was much ado about nothing, and I don't blame ASUS and MSI for shipping the cards with the OC Mode because reviewers are too lazy to test all the presets.
Funny how it took them 3 years to discover this, I mean you would think that a reviewer would check the clock speeds upon installation to make sure the card wasn't defective.
However, the middle Gaming Mode that is the default is an absurd preset as it's barely over stock clock, with the OC Mode being not much higher.
The only reason I like the MSI card is for it's cooler.

 

[fullinfusion]

That controversy was much ado about nothing, and I don't blame ASUS and MSI for shipping the cards with the OC Mode because reviewers are too lazy to test all the presets.
Funny how it took them 3 years to discover this, I mean you would think that a reviewer would check the clock speeds upon installation to make sure the card wasn't defective.
However, the middle Gaming Mode that is the default is an absurd preset as it's barely over stock clock, with the OC Mode being not much higher.
The only reason I like the MSI card is for it's cooler.

Umm Yeah

 

[AlienIsGOD]

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+10+-+64

new 16.12.2 drivers, release notes:

Fixed Issues

• Unable to launch the Problem Report Wizard from CCCSlim in Radeon Settings.
• Radeon WattMan Power Limit setting may not retain after hitting apply when Auto Temperature is enabled.
• DOTA™ may experience flickering in some hero and effect models when running the application in Fullscreen.
• Pixel Format options may not appear in Radeon Settings on some 4K TV's with Radeon RX 480.
• The Division™ may experience flicker during gameplay when using AMD Multi GPU configurations.
• The Division™ may experience an application freeze or hang when running in AMD Multi GPU configurations after extended periods of play.
• Game quality or performance may be degraded when launching multimedia content on a secondary display before running a game.
• CIM folder retains under program files even after complete driver uninstallation.
• Radeon Settings may experience an intermittent crash when accessing Radeon WattMan.
• Display tab with virtual super resolution may be removed or missing in Radeon Settings.
• The Radeon WattMan feature may intermittently display a Radeon Software popup error regarding Radeon WattMan for non-supported products.
• Random crashes may be experienced on Mozilla Firefox.
• DirectX®12 content may be unable to launch on some older CPUs that do not support popcnt instruction.
• Intermittent Mouse Cursor corruption may be experienced on Radeon RX 480.

Known Issues

• AMD FreeSync™ technology may experience performance issues with Borderless Fullscreen application support when a secondary display is attached and has dynamic content running such as video playback in a web browser or if other applications or game launchers are running on the primary screen in the background. A workaround if this issue is experienced is to minimize all other running applications that are on the primary desktop display or on non-primary extended displays.
• Counter-Strike™: Global Offensive and World of Warcraft™ may experience flickering or performance issues the first time the game is launched on a system boot with AMD FreeSync™ technology enabled. Workarounds include exiting and restarting the application or task switching (alt+tab) in and out of the game to fix the issue.
• AMD Multi GPU configurations may experience a system hang or reboot during install when using tiled MST 4K or 5K displays.
• Titanfall™2 may experience black square corruption in game menus or during game play on some Graphics Core Next products.
• FIFA 17™ may experience an application hang or black screen on launch for some select Hybrid Graphics or AMD PowerXpress mobile configurations.

Known Issues for Radeon ReLive

• The XBOX™ DVR application may cause conflicts with Radeon ReLive, users are suggested to disable XBOX™ DVR if Radeon ReLive is experiencing issues.
• Radeon ReLive may fail to install on AMD APU Family products or experience a system hang or failure to record when using the recording feature on AMD APU Family products.
• Radeon ReLive may experience recording issues or issues toggling the Overlay/Toolbar when Frame Rate Target Control is enabled. Users are suggested to disable Frame Rate Target Control when using Radeon ReLive.
• Battlefield™1 may experience UI flickering and/or performance drops when recording gameplay with Radeon ReLive on graphics products with 4GB or less of VRAM.
• DOTA™2 may experience game corruption when performing a task switch while recording with Radeon ReLive in AMD Multi GPU configurations.
• Radeon ReLive recordings may experience flicker when creating a single recording for many hours.
• Radeon ReLive may experience minor graphical corruption for the first few recorded frames when launching UWP applications.
• In AMD Multi GPU configurations the secondary graphics product will exit BACO when Radeon ReLive is enabled.
• Radeon ReLive will not allow recording settings to change with Instant Replay enabled. A workaround is to disable Instant Replay and change settings then enable Instant Replay.
• Radeon ReLive Overlay/Toolbar will not launch or Record when running League of Legends™ in Administrator Mode and Windowed Borderless Fullscreen. A work around would be to not use administrator launch privileges or to use Fullscreen mode.
• Mouse cursor may stutter in recorded video when there is limited on screen activity outside of minor mouse movement.
• Vulkan™ applications may experience a game hang when using Radeon ReLive to record.
• Radeon ReLive will not notify an end user of low disk space during recording

 

[fullinfusion]

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+10+-+64

new 16.12.2 drivers, release notes:

Fixed Issues

• Unable to launch the Problem Report Wizard from CCCSlim in Radeon Settings.
• Radeon WattMan Power Limit setting may not retain after hitting apply when Auto Temperature is enabled.
• DOTA™ may experience flickering in some hero and effect models when running the application in Fullscreen.
• Pixel Format options may not appear in Radeon Settings on some 4K TV's with Radeon RX 480.
• The Division™ may experience flicker during gameplay when using AMD Multi GPU configurations.
• The Division™ may experience an application freeze or hang when running in AMD Multi GPU configurations after extended periods of play.
• Game quality or performance may be degraded when launching multimedia content on a secondary display before running a game.
• CIM folder retains under program files even after complete driver uninstallation.
• Radeon Settings may experience an intermittent crash when accessing Radeon WattMan.
• Display tab with virtual super resolution may be removed or missing in Radeon Settings.
• The Radeon WattMan feature may intermittently display a Radeon Software popup error regarding Radeon WattMan for non-supported products.
• Random crashes may be experienced on Mozilla Firefox.
• DirectX®12 content may be unable to launch on some older CPUs that do not support popcnt instruction.
• Intermittent Mouse Cursor corruption may be experienced on Radeon RX 480.

Known Issues

• AMD FreeSync™ technology may experience performance issues with Borderless Fullscreen application support when a secondary display is attached and has dynamic content running such as video playback in a web browser or if other applications or game launchers are running on the primary screen in the background. A workaround if this issue is experienced is to minimize all other running applications that are on the primary desktop display or on non-primary extended displays.
• Counter-Strike™: Global Offensive and World of Warcraft™ may experience flickering or performance issues the first time the game is launched on a system boot with AMD FreeSync™ technology enabled. Workarounds include exiting and restarting the application or task switching (alt+tab) in and out of the game to fix the issue.
• AMD Multi GPU configurations may experience a system hang or reboot during install when using tiled MST 4K or 5K displays.
• Titanfall™2 may experience black square corruption in game menus or during game play on some Graphics Core Next products.
• FIFA 17™ may experience an application hang or black screen on launch for some select Hybrid Graphics or AMD PowerXpress mobile configurations.

Known Issues for Radeon ReLive

• The XBOX™ DVR application may cause conflicts with Radeon ReLive, users are suggested to disable XBOX™ DVR if Radeon ReLive is experiencing issues.
• Radeon ReLive may fail to install on AMD APU Family products or experience a system hang or failure to record when using the recording feature on AMD APU Family products.
• Radeon ReLive may experience recording issues or issues toggling the Overlay/Toolbar when Frame Rate Target Control is enabled. Users are suggested to disable Frame Rate Target Control when using Radeon ReLive.
• Battlefield™1 may experience UI flickering and/or performance drops when recording gameplay with Radeon ReLive on graphics products with 4GB or less of VRAM.
• DOTA™2 may experience game corruption when performing a task switch while recording with Radeon ReLive in AMD Multi GPU configurations.
• Radeon ReLive recordings may experience flicker when creating a single recording for many hours.
• Radeon ReLive may experience minor graphical corruption for the first few recorded frames when launching UWP applications.
• In AMD Multi GPU configurations the secondary graphics product will exit BACO when Radeon ReLive is enabled.
• Radeon ReLive will not allow recording settings to change with Instant Replay enabled. A workaround is to disable Instant Replay and change settings then enable Instant Replay.
• Radeon ReLive Overlay/Toolbar will not launch or Record when running League of Legends™ in Administrator Mode and Windowed Borderless Fullscreen. A work around would be to not use administrator launch privileges or to use Fullscreen mode.
• Mouse cursor may stutter in recorded video when there is limited on screen activity outside of minor mouse movement.
• Vulkan™ applications may experience a game hang when using Radeon ReLive to record.
• Radeon ReLive will not notify an end user of low disk space during recording

anyone give these a shot yet?

 

[AlienIsGOD]

anyone give these a shot yet?

im using them as we speak, no issues so far. Will have to check on BF 1 and ReLive to see if its actually working yet. Other then that the games i play ( OW, BF 1, Division and The Crew) all play same as before. vsync on at 72hz and no dips in FPS unless playing a ubisoft game (poorly coded probably lol)

 

[cdawall]

anyone give these a shot yet?

I need to I have several of those problems.

 

[Tallencor]

unless playing a ubisoft game (poorly coded probably lol)

Yep. Heroes VI is all over the place.

 

[AntDeek]

Hey guys. New member here. Glad to make some new friends! I have my XFX 480 XXX RS card RX-480P8336BM. I have the card stable at 1400 core, and 2150 mem.

Quick questions for you guys. So, whats with all these SKUs XFX is making? Mine is called the "XXX RS" but all models on their site seem to be identical. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Also, I am guessing from the factory this card comes with two identical BIOS controlled by switch, is that why there is no difference when each switch is turned on? This is making my head spin. I am just overclocking with the switch facing towards the HDMI and DP ports.

Thanks guys!

Anthony

 

[cdawall]

That is the card my brother has. He gets about the same clocks (1410/2250)

 

[AntDeek]

Wondering if my i5 3470 is a bottleneck on this card?

 

[cdawall]

no

 

[AntDeek]

Hmm wonder what's up with all the different skus of my card with identical setups

 

[Ungari]

Hmm wonder what's up with all the different skus of my card with identical setups

I actually asked the same question previously on the forums. There certainly are more models to choose from than other manufacturers, and it's a bit confusing, but they are not identical.
Going to XFX's website shows there is a difference in the custom cooler shrouds and the factory boost clocks. Probably means a difference in the binning as you are guaranteed stable factory OC clocks.

I looked at the spec sheet and there is no mention of a Dual BIOS on this card, which probably means that the switch does nothing as it could use the same PCB as the higher tier card. Just to be sure, I would call XFX and ask if your card has two BIOS memory chips and if there are two different profiles loaded.

http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/amd-radeon-rx-400-series#RX-480-8gb

However, if you needed to flash a single BIOS chip, here are profiles from XFX:

http://xfxforce.com/en-us/support/bios-files

Your particular model has a Factory OC of +22Mhz to 1288Mhz Boost.
This extreme overclock may be too much for you, but never fear, there is a simple solution!
In Afterburner, just move the slider for the GPU clock to -22Mhz, then the card will be at the Stock Boost speed of 1266Mhz.