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RX 5700XT or spend more on RTX 2070 Super?

HD64G said:
I would wait for the bigger Navi coming early 2020 probably.
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There has been talk about Navi 12 which should be the RX 5800 series cards but no confirmation yet sadly because it would be awesome if they did a surprise release and manage to get the Navi 12 AIB cards in store before christmas to MSRP and not over price.

But early 2020 that's properly spring it usually is and I am not waiting that long.
 
EarthDog said:
You are aware your thread title is asking about these two cards, right???
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He was explaining why "RTX because g-sync" isn't a valid reason.

@Op, already pointed out
- 2070s more expensive for not much more performance
- no reasons in favor of the 2070s
 
Get 5700XT and report back your user experience. I am curious whether the driver has matured enough.
 
xkm1948 said:
Get 5700XT and report back your user experience. I am curious whether the driver has matured enough.
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They're fine but take that with a grain since I've only been playing Apex and TW:WII. I have outer worlds but waiting on mobo RMA.
 
Summarizing from OP’s key word and his previous GPU, he is already looking to get 5700XT. He just want some confirmation from other people.

TBH this is the most pointless GPU sidegrade. But whatever his money his choice.
 
@xkm1948 depending on the game and future title it's not actually a sidegrade it's actually a upgrade as weird as that sounds even for some of the current games like BF V, Wolfenstein Youngblood.

But again if EA decides to do something to screw over all the AMD cards it will be bad for BF V players.
 
If you want RTRT there's only one choice, RTX.
 
P4-630 said:
If you want RTRT there's only one choice, RTX.
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If you are talking about Ray-tracing my good man.

Then as good as it looks the harder performance impact it has and I haven't used it so will I miss it? No properly not because looking at videos of it the refletion is good and life like but nothing that will make my day.
 
@puma99dk| you said multiple times that 2080 is too expensive, but that's really the cheapest option that would give you a visible boost in performance.
Instead, you're going to replace your 1080Ti with a slightly slower 5700XT, in which case you spend money getting absolutely nothing.

What's the point of this thread?
It seems you just really want to go full AMD, but deep down you know this is pointless, so you need a bit of patting on the back from AMD fans.
And you'll surely get that here.

I just don't understand why you can't be open with that desire... instead of writing such long and incoherent posts...
 
notb said:
@puma99dk| you said multiple times that 2080 is too expensive, but that's really the cheapest option that would give you a visible boost in performance.
Instead, you're going to replace your 1080Ti with a slightly slower 5700XT, in which case you spend money getting absolutely nothing.

What's the point of this thread?
It seems you just really want to go full AMD, but deep down you know this is pointless, so you need a bit of patting on the back from AMD fans.
And you'll surely get that here.

I just don't understand why you can't be open with that desire... instead of writing such long and incoherent posts...
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It is perfectly fine if a man just wanna scratch that purchasing itch.

Get that 5700XT OP. Enough discussion more action. You wanted confirmation here and you got it. Now go out there and just buy the damn GPU already


Ooooh and OP if you REALLY need extra peer confirmation go post on reddit/AMD. They have the best crazed AMD fans out there to give you positive reinforcements on purchasing 5700XT
 
xkm1948 said:
It is perfectly fine if a man just wanna scratch that purchasing itch.

Get that 5700XT OP. Enough discussion more action. You wanted confirmation here and you got it. Now go out there and just buy the damn GPU already
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Exactly. He wants 5700XT, he should buy it. We're talking about gaming, not lifetime fund investments. It's a waste of money anyway. :)

Just make sure he's not a STEM student that hopes to do some scientific computing... ;)
 
puma99dk| said:
@cucker tarlson the RTX 2080 is about the same bad value here as RTX 2080 Super and used once doesn't get on sale for a good price.
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that's weird.
when 2070S and 2080S launched you could get a regular 2080 here somewhere between the price of the two.

imo getting a 5700xt over 1080ti hybrid is just stupid.
2070 super is the absolute minimum you should ge aiming for it to make any sense,and that's only if you play whatever new aaa games come out cause they run better on turing.
imo 2080 or bust.
 
puma99dk| said:
@cucker tarlson the RTX 2080 is about the same bad value here as RTX 2080 Super and used once doesn't get on sale for a good price.

I am not the biggest OC myself and I usually just slide the power limit up for a more steady boost then using hours of testing if my GPU is stable.


Last time I tried oc my GTX 1080 Ti FE Hybrid I cranked up the power limit and did +130MHz on the GPU and mem of I don't really remember because I don't have the profile anymore.
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Have you considered a used 2070s/2080?
 
Heck get a 5700 and flash to 5700xt spec
 
TPU's relative performance chart has the 1080 Ti and the 2070 Super roughly drawing even. Add your 9% overclock, and it looks like you're losing performance even with another £142 spent. No way.

Keep your card and tell your friend to buy the 5700 XT.
 
Khonjel said:
The fact is 1080 Ti has value this year. Next year selling price will ofc decrease. So people pls read the OP and quit suggesting to stick with it. If he decides to sell RX 5700 XT next year, it'll fetch better resale price (than 1080 Ti), so on and so forth.
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Actually no because the net performance is almost identical, and that gap will not get bigger but smaller in a relative way as faster cards are released. A year from now, the only meaningful thing that sets 5700XT and 1080ti apart, is age. But Nvidia still does resell at MUCH higher value than AMD cards. Check it out yourself - even those that are older.

I'm not going to happily advise OP to make a bad move, I'll say its a bad move instead. If he is looking for people to nod in agreement the forum isn't the place, and advice isn't the term ;)

puma99dk| said:
@xkm1948 depending on the game and future title it's not actually a sidegrade it's actually a upgrade as weird as that sounds even for some of the current games like BF V, Wolfenstein Youngblood.

But again if EA decides to do something to screw over all the AMD cards it will be bad for BF V players.
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No, its a sidegrade. The 2070S is still faster in a larger amount of titles, but thats also a sidegrade nonetheless. Per game performance does not increase resell price if someone doesn't play that game. People tend to buy GPUs on overall performance. As should you... Navi is the worst possible value choice for a resale - as are most AMD cards since 280x came out.

But yes, its your money, and your choice. The info is there, and no, you won't be hearing its a sensible move... because its not.
 
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Due to the limited OC ability associated with the 5700 and 5700 XT, the plain ole 2070 is slightly faster, cooler and quieter... at least according to TPU testing

The fastest 5700 XT tested by TPU is the Sapphire.
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Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ Special Edition Review

Sapphire's RX 5700 XT Nitro+ Special Edition is the fastest air-cooled Radeon RX 5700 XT on the market. It has what no other card has: overclocked memory. Noise levels and thermals of the adjustable RGB fans are impressive. Does it beat the PowerColor Red Devil?
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Sapphire Nitro Special Edition 5700 XT = 100% @ 1440p
Sapphire Nitro Special Edition OC = 121.4 / 118.0
Reference 2070 = 92%

MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z
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MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming Z 8 GB Review

The MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming Z comes at NVIDIA Founders Edition pricing of $600, yet beats that card in every regard. The cooler is whisper-quiet during even heavy gaming sessions, and when not loaded, the fans turn off completely because of the idle-fan-stop feature.
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MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z = 100% @ 1440p
MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z OC = 144.5 / 133.5
Reference 2070 = 96%

So ...

Sapphire Nitro Special Edition 5700 XT = 100% / 92% x 121.4 / 118.0 = 111.82%
MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z = 100% / 96% x 144.5 / 133.5 = 112.75 %

Sapphire Nitro Special Edition 5700 XT = 296 watts (peak gaming
MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z = 233 watts

Sapphire Nitro Special Edition 5700 XT = 74 C Load + OC
MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z = 70 C

Sapphire Nitro Special Edition 5700 XT= 33 dbA
MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z = 30 dbA

Sapphire Nitro Special Edition 5700 XT= $480
MSI 2070 (Not Super) Gaming Z = $455

Of course the Special Edition carries a price tag boost which many will say is unfair ... but the SE also brings a nice performance boost too.

As others have said ...this is a why bother question .... the 1080 Ti's performance is very close to both of them... If it wasn't a reference card i would bother if you could unload the old card for the same price as the new. On the other hand the 2070 Super can be had for as low as $500 with rebates and newegg specials ... I dont kno ya location as cryptic message in your profile, but assume from the language note, not in US.
 
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save your cash and go for "upgrade" radeon 7/2080ti, as for me theres no point to replace any card just for extra 10fps, you alr got decent 60fps card for curent gaming, your 1080ti is still usefull, unless you were kind of people whom get bored easier, try pay for diffrent card model :laugh:
but in terms of temporary use, an 5700 xt sure is better choice than 2070s, price matter:)
 
this is hilarious.
he's worried his card will lose value next year,so TPU business casuals advise to sell it for a slower card and pay extra this year already.nice scheme.
 
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potato580+ said:
save your cash and go for "upgrade" radeon 7/2080ti, as for me theres no point to replace any card just for extra 10fps, you alr got decent 60fps card for curent gaming, your 1080ti is still usefull, unless you were kind of people whom get bored easier, try pay for diffrent card model :laugh:
but in terms of temporary use, an 5700 xt sure is better choice than 2070s, price matter:)
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The Radeon 7 is in the same boat as a 5700XT its also typically more expensive than the 2070 super that is definitely better

The only thing it competes with a 2080 ti in is power consumption which I think it actually wins at if using the most power was a good thing anyway.
 
@John Naylor you can't compare $ prices across the sea in europe it doesn't work like that sadly.

But if everything goes well I am cooking up sometimes can't say more then that for now.
 
if you can get a new 2070 super for your 1080ti and not pay then do it.
If not,absolutely don't pay extra to get a 5700xt or 2070 super.
Yes your card will lose some value,but on the other hand there are 7nm cards coming next summer and what $500 buys you now will be available at $350,probably with improved RTX performance too.
I only did a 1080ti to 2070 super switch cause it cost me next to nothing,and I was coming from an air cooled 1080ti so noise was a consideration too unlike your 1080ti liquid.
 
cucker tarlson said:
this is hilarious.
he's worried his card will lose value next year,so TPU business casuals advise to sell it for a slower card and pay extra this year already.nice scheme.
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Dude just want a taste of that delicious “All AMD” rig, why you so harsh?
Let OP have what his heart desires, either a 5700XT sidegrade or a Radeon 7 sidegrade.

Just BUY IT already OP, JFC this amount of drama just for one fking GPU.
 
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