RX 9070 availability

[cinemaware]

I live both in Europe and Asia. I was kinda ok with the ~750USD MSRP for 5070Ti, but if that equals 1000 USD in EU (looking at Poland prices right now) than it's a no no. That Powercolor 9070XT is ~850 USD , so ditto.

And here in Taiwan all the things >5070 are still either scalped to high heavens or sold in silly bundles. Seems I will stick to retro gaming for the foreseeable future.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

Impressive wall of text, but you still haven't explained why a ~10% difference in FPS is so meaningful. You can always turn one setting down from ultra to high, and you've got that 10% back - not that you notice 10% anyway.

What I'm getting from his text is that 9070 not gonna be capable for 1% lows as much as the 9070 XT in rasterization. 1% low is important in fluidity of your gaming experience. And I believe is referring to the near future rather than 5 years from now I'm talking about 2K and 4K resolutions.
On the other hand, both cards has same amount of cache, how fast can use that cache 9070 and 9070XT, what is the difference in accessing and immediate use of that cache I don't know. But still this cache usage relates by a big margins to 1% lows I believe. Also will relate to the lack of stutters.

What I'm speculating is the amount of TMU greater on 9070 XT which will help in a better fluidity of the games, better 1 % lows, more TMU = faster textures will be applied to the 3d objects in a scene.
So we have 256 TMUs on 9070XT a 12.5 % increase over 224TMU on 9070. How much will affect this 12.5 % more TMU the 1% lows is hard to say maybe is 20 % or just 5%.

I live both in Europe and Asia. I was kinda ok with the ~750USD MSRP for 5070Ti, but if that equals 1000 USD in EU (looking at Poland prices right now) than it's a no no. That Powercolor 9070XT is ~850 USD , so ditto.

And here in Taiwan all the things >5070 are still either scalped to high heavens or sold in silly bundles. Seems I will stick to retro gaming for the foreseeable future.

Maybe end of June will look better, also you might want to have a look at used 4080 lower pwr draw and less heat and very close to 9070XT performance.

 

[DudeBeFishing]

I'm holding off for now. Even if GPU prices drop back down I don't know if I'll upgrade. GPU game drivers seem to have taken a backseat in favor of AI crap.

 

[Krit]

Maybe end of June will look better, also you might want to have a look at used 4080 lower pwr draw and less heat and very close to 9070XT performance.

Usually used RTX 4080 is more expensive than a new RX 9070 XT TDP is close. Right now RX 9070 XT and RTX 5070 Ti is at the lowest price ever.

 

[AusWolf]

What I'm getting from his text is that 9070 not gonna be capable for 1% lows as much as the 9070 XT in rasterization. 1% low is important in fluidity of your gaming experience. And I believe is referring to the near future rather than 5 years from now I'm talking about 2K and 4K resolutions.
On the other hand, both cards has same amount of cache, how fast can use that cache 9070 and 9070XT, what is the difference in accessing and immediate use of that cache I don't know. But still this cache usage relates by a big margins to 1% lows I believe. Also will relate to the lack of stutters.

What I'm speculating is the amount of TMU greater on 9070 XT which will help in a better fluidity of the games, better 1 % lows, more TMU = faster textures will be applied to the 3d objects in a scene.
So we have 256 TMUs on 9070XT a 12.5 % increase over 224TMU on 9070. How much will affect this 12.5 % more TMU the 1% lows is hard to say maybe is 20 % or just 5%.

I still don't think that difference is worth discussing in detail. I don't consider anything below a 30-50% difference meaningful in any way. But let's just agree to disagree.

 

[cinemaware]

Right now RX 9070 XT and RTX 5070 Ti is at the lowest price ever.

Where I am looking now it’s like that
Poland
9070XT - 3200PLN = 850 USD real price (- 20%VAT 120USD) = 730 USD bef VAT
5070Ti - 3700PLN = 980 USD real price (- 20%VAT 150USD) = 830 US bef VAT

This 80-130 USD markup from MSRP would be bearable if we didn't have VAT on top, but we do.

Taiwan
9070XT - 27800 TWD - 927 USD -100 USD = 827 USD real price (it's a bundle with 1TB PNY NVM assume you get 100 USD for that NVM) - (- some tax, not sure, usually 100USD) - 727 USD
5070Ti - 30000TWD = ~1000 USD real price (- some tax, not sure, usually 100USD) = 9000 USD bef tax

One biggest shop has lower prices but only for people building new computers. Scum tactic.

9070XT would be bearable if not for tax and bundle, but it’s not like that, so it all still sucks big time. Some of it is exacerbated by very weak dollar atm though (for me at least).