RX 9070 availability

[MrDweezil]

Seems like several places have higher-than-msrp cards still available, which I think is a good sign. If those aren't selling out even in the initial buying frenzy, and AMD has regular resupply shipments lined up the way everyone says they do, the higher prices won't hold.

 

[Zazigalka]

they are available, but cost 750eur up for 9070, 950eur up for 9070xt. wanted to buy one today, but not gonna pay a 350eur premium over msrp for the basic asus prime model. Taichi/Red Devil cost the same as cheapest 5070Ti's like ventus or gainward phoenix

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

Maybe. Or maybe stores got their inventory before the new US-China import tariffs kicked in, and all further stock will have it added on.

You are probably right about that. Tariffs are a stupid idea proven all the way back in the 1930s, so why we are doing them now makes no sense to me. No argument from me there.

I still think the price jumps can't be attributed solely to tariffs, they have not risen high enough yet.

 

[windwhirl]

they are available, but cost 750eur up for 9070, 950eur up for 9070xt. wanted to buy one today, but not gonna pay a 350eur premium over msrp for the basic asus prime model. Taichi/Red Devil cost the same as cheapest 5070Ti's like ventus or gainward phoenix

That got me looking into Nvidia's offerings, and it seems the 5070 Ti starts at 1450 USD over here, up to 1750 USD.

No non-TI variant present tho.

RTX 5080 starts at 1850 USD and goes up to 2760 USD

So, currently:

GPUs in Argentina	Price range	Notes
RX 7800 XT	758099 ARS (713 USD) to 990070 ARS (931 USD)	Low variety/stock. Inventory cleanup victim maybe
RX 7900 XT	1044970 ARS (983 USD)	1 Sapphire Pulse model at 1 single place. Inventory cleanup victim
RX 9070	1157100 ARS (1088 USD)	1 model at 1 place
RX 9070 XT	1361729 ARS (1280 USD) to 1534500 ARS (1443 USD)	Mostly Gigabyte Gaming OC/Aorus cards, and 1 ASUS TUF model
RTX 5070 Ti	1549999 ARS (1457 USD) to 1850700 ARS (1740 USD)	1 MSI Ventus 3X OC and the rest are ASUS Prime
RTX 5080	1949999 ARS (1834 USD) to 2936900 ARS (2762 USD)	Quite varied (Palit, MSI, PNY, Gigabyte, ASUS, Zotac), bunch of different models.

All of these are prices if you pay in cash/bank transfer/debit card.

If you want to pay with credit card, prices go up a bit and then you have an interest rate on top of that depending on how many installments you want (last I checked they did 5% per installment, but it might be lower now due to lower inflation rate, mayyyybbeeeee)

Stock will probably improve in a month, both variety and units available. Prices... ehh, we'll see

 

[Zazigalka]

Are there going to be more 9070xt reviews coming on TPU ?
I'd like to see Taichi and Pulse tested, seems like it'll be one of those two for me, if they ever come close to actually being ~700-750 eur

 

[izy]

What you can buy here (lowest price in stock) is RX 9070 @ 760E and RX 9070 XT @ 915E .. cheaper options are all sold out.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

Just wait 3 months, there's little production constraints on them as they use gddr6.

People just buying the hype and massive fomo binge at launch.

Should be mountains of them available at msrp (or even less) by June.

MSRP was for launch-day only. That price is going away. After that, until supply exceeds demand, prices will be much higher. I think they will eventually come back down, but if they're not making any money at MSRP, I don't expect prices to go below that until we're on to next generations and they need to clear out stock (assuming there's ever too much stock). Check out this listing from Best Buy showing that the MSRP pricing was limited to launch day only. They even put a count-down on it (which started with 16 hours from the launch time):

As for the original question, there's still (at the time of writing this) the occasional 9070 that shows up on Amazon.com for $639-669 (right now it's an XFX Quicksilver), but the 9070XT's seem to have completely gone. Newegg took several orders yesterday morning and then canceled or voided them (or just deleted them when you get to the confirmation screen). My order deletion came with a "24 hour IP block" from the website lol, but they let me back in a few minutes later, let me order, then voided it an hour later after all their inventory was gone. Amazon let me order a card and said it would be delivered today, but today came an email indicating it was delayed until an unknown future date and asked if I wanted to keep the order. I said yes. I contacted them to see if they had a time estimate and now they're saying it is expected to ship next week. We'll see.

I was just trying to help out a family member with the purchase because I follow this market and knew what the launch window would probably look like (and had time at 9am EST to do it).

 

[AusWolf]

MSRP was for launch-day only. That price is going away. After that, until supply exceeds demand, prices will be much higher.

That doesn't make sense. If supply exceeds demand, prices should come down. No, there's something else at play here. I suspect that supply isn't that high (albeit higher than Nvidia's), combined with the new tariffs and scalping from AIBs trying to make a buck on right margins.

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

That doesn't make sense. If supply exceeds demand, prices should come down. No, there's something else at play here. I suspect that supply isn't that high (albeit higher than Nvidia's), combined with the new tariffs and scalping from AIBs trying to make a buck on right margins.

I think he is saying what you are saying, as per his last sentence. He says until supply exceeds demand, prices will be much higher.

I am adding to what he is saying, supply will go up over time while demand is front-loaded and probably highest at the start. Prices should go down (but who knows with tariffs).

 

[AusWolf]

I think he is saying what you are saying, as per his last sentence. He says until supply exceeds demand, prices will be much higher.

I am adding to what he is saying, supply will go up over time while demand is front-loaded and probably highest at the start. Prices should go down (but who knows with tariffs).

Ah! Now that makes sense.

 

[NSR]

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On a relevant side note, this XFX Swift model is so incredibly clean. They almost look like a knock-off brand. All black everything, a single LED for their logo. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm seeing it for £800 but that's £200 above what it's worth. Waiting patiently for restock on this specific model.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

That doesn't make sense. If supply exceeds demand, prices should come down. No, there's something else at play here. I suspect that supply isn't that high (albeit higher than Nvidia's), combined with the new tariffs and scalping from AIBs trying to make a buck on right margins.

I think he is saying what you are saying, as per his last sentence. He says until supply exceeds demand, prices will be much higher.

I am adding to what he is saying, supply will go up over time while demand is front-loaded and probably highest at the start. Prices should go down (but who knows with tariffs).

Ah! Now that makes sense.

You got there. I read your first message and was like "yeah, that's part of what I was saying lol". Right now demand is higher, so they can crank up the prices. Between AIBs trying to maximize profits and tariffs coming in to the US, who knows what the future holds, but I was basically saying that until supply overcomes demand, there will be any number of reasons they can keep prices high. Over-supply compared to demand will be the only thing that brings them back down.

On a relevant side note, this XFX Swift model is so incredibly clean. They almost look like a knock-off brand. All black everything, a single LED for their logo. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm seeing it for £800 but that's £200 above what it's worth. Waiting patiently for restock on this specific model.

I agree. I tried to put that in my cart yesterday morning and best buy put me in a line for a minute before saying they didn't have any left. They were gone pretty much immediately and Best Buy has indicated there that the price will be $729.99 going forward. The Newegg order I had voided was the white version of that too.

 

[NSR]

I agree. I tried to put that in my cart yesterday morning and best buy put me in a line for a minute before saying they didn't have any left. They were gone pretty much immediately and Best Buy has indicated there that the price will be $729.99 going forward. The Newegg order I had voided was the white version of that too.

Damn, can only imagine how bad that felt, I didn't bother trying for the first batch.

The 730$ is without tax I'm assuming. That'll be just under £565 converted over here then, around £680 with tax. So the listing I'm seeing right now is still £120 too high even accounting for the price increase on the next batch, lol.

 

[chrcoluk]

Difference is 9070 get cube of stock, whilst low stock on 5090 is due to less than 5 cards sent to retailer. 5090 more were sent out to reviewers than what some retailers got.

 

[Event Horizon]

Online has never worked out for me during a launch. I always have to go to a physical store to get MSRP. My local store had loads of 9070s but only a few XTs by the time I got there. All sold out for online orders it seems.

 

[_roman_]

690€ is possible for 9070XT

provided for information purposes - price history and "current offers"
Germany - german language - price history

Verfügbarkeit, Preise & Deals: Hier gibt es Radeon RX 9070 XT, 9070 & 9060 XT zu kaufen

Wir informieren, wo es AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT, RX 9070 und RX 9060 XT 16 GB zu welchem Preis ab Lager zu kaufen gibt.

www.computerbase.de

I'm only interested in the 9070XT - there are two sites - German language - germany

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Verfügbarkeitshinweise

Neue Verfügbarkeit entdeckt! Name: Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC Shop: Caseking Preis: 1052.69 € Datum: 07.03.2025 - 12:59:06 URL: https://tidd.ly/4itFsLS * Alle Angaben ohne Gewähr! * Es handelt sich um einen Affiliate-Link (Werbung). Wenn Du das Produkt im genannten Shop...

www.hardwareluxx.de

Asus webshop refuse to work with 3 browers - even wiht one microsoft edge without modifications today @~690€

 

[Bobaganoosh]

Damn, can only imagine how bad that felt, I didn't bother trying for the first batch.

The 730$ is without tax I'm assuming. That'll be just under £565 converted over here then, around £680 with tax. So the listing I'm seeing right now is still £120 too high even accounting for the price increase on the next batch, lol.

Yes that is pre-tax.

 

[windwhirl]

Are there going to be more 9070xt reviews coming on TPU ?

A question for W1zzard, but just an hour ago a new one went up, so it seems to me there might be more reviews coming down the line

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC Magnetic Air Review

The XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC comes with a unique capability. Its fans are attached magnetically and will pop out easily, which makes them easy to clean and replace. In terms of performance the XFX card does very well, too, beating the RTX 5070, almost matching the RTX 5070 Ti.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[evernessince]

The availability is generally poor. Granted, it’s technically better than the 5000 series, but that isn’t saying much. I track prices in several jurisdictions and countries and storefronts our of curiosity and actual MSRP cards are less populous than a fucking black unicorn. We’ll see 6 moths down the line. Unless you desperately need a card RIGHT NOW I can’t in good conscience advise buying today.

"Technically"? You imply there is a difference without a distinction. Screencaps of the Microcenter launch stock show 150+ launch units per store with individual online stores having over 1000 units. Out of the few times I've randomly checked availability online at various stores (amazon, newegg, best buy, etc) there was stock (albeit at $750 - $800).

Nvidia had less than 10 stock per Microcenter location.

I can understand that to consumers out of stock is the same regardless of how much had existed, but this argument requires you to ignore the significant differences we are seeing. A lot of people will make that kind of statement out of frustration, because once again they were not able to get a graphics card.

Saying they are even remotely equal is counter-productive, there is very clearly a sizable difference. What's the incentive for AMD to even bother holding back a launch in the future to build up stock if they are going to be chastised to the same degree as Nvidia for selling out, regardless of how many units were actually available.

I'm seeing this kind of attitude in some subreddits as well and I'll just warm PC gamers, you get the market you deserve. If the general PC gaming public doesn't seem to care about additional launch stock (as in it treats 1 5090 / store vs 100 9070 XTs / store the same), then expect AMD to just not care as well in future releases and more closely mirror Nvidia. Acting on arguments of emotion and washing away the very real difference between the two launches will in fact only bring the market further from the desired launch conditions.

We have yet to see how well AMD can stock up over the coming months and there's also the question of whether AMD will continue to have a good amount of MSRP cards. These are the big lingering questions. AMD has made statements affirming good stock coming in and more MSRP cards and customers should hold them to that, not engaging in arguments borne of emotion.

Maybe. Or maybe stores got their inventory before the new US-China import tariffs kicked in, and all further stock will have it added on.

IMO any increase in price as it relates to the tariff would and should look unfavorably upon AMD (and the same applies to Nvidia as well)

They knew months and months in advance that there was a potential for tariffs. Regardless of whatever probability they thought they'd actually be implemented, AMD should have priced their products accordingly, taking them into account. If they price their products too low and have to increase them due to extremely obvious and forseen tariffs, that is their bad and they would deserve any flak they receive.

Pretending as if they didn't know allows them to socialize the costs to the ignorant masses while keeping all their profits. These business aren't stupid, they are playing the stupid. It's the same thing for the chicken industry in the united states. In order to save 1 cent per pound they don't vaccinate their chickens against bird flu. Oh look at that, we have to cull 80% of all our hens? That's ok, we'll just pass the cost onto consumers by raising prices. Rinse and repeat for any cost increase be it tariff or other long forseen risks.

You are probably right about that. Tariffs are a stupid idea proven all the way back in the 1930s, so why we are doing them now makes no sense to me. No argument from me there.

I still think the price jumps can't be attributed solely to tariffs, they have not risen high enough yet.

Tariffs are useful and often necessary for countries to enable the growth of developing industries (mostly 3rd world countries) in a nation. It is, for example, very hard for a vehicle industry startup coming from nothing in a less than ideal investment environment (with often a lack of skilled labor, infrastructure, and logistical networks) to immediately compete with the big auto manufacturers without significant help. What typically happens in 3rd world countries if developing industries don't get help, is those outside auto companies tend to take over and control the market.

Blanket tariffs are 100% stupid though, particularly on goods that you cannot immediately replace. At that point it's just a tax on middle and low income people. Bill gates isn't impacted by the 0.25 cent increase in the cost of a toothbrush.

they are available, but cost 750eur up for 9070, 950eur up for 9070xt. wanted to buy one today, but not gonna pay a 350eur premium over msrp for the basic asus prime model. Taichi/Red Devil cost the same as cheapest 5070Ti's like ventus or gainward phoenix

Yeah, the premium over MSRP of many of these cards has gotten out of hand. It's just another way they are trying to get people to pay more when they are allocating so much stock to those models.

MSRP was for launch-day only. That price is going away. After that, until supply exceeds demand, prices will be much higher. I think they will eventually come back down, but if they're not making any money at MSRP, I don't expect prices to go below that until we're on to next generations and they need to clear out stock (assuming there's ever too much stock). Check out this listing from Best Buy showing that the MSRP pricing was limited to launch day only. They even put a count-down on it (which started with 16 hours from the launch time):

I have an extremely hard time believing that they aren't making money on a card that's $100 more expensive than a last gen product (which itself was only good value in comparison to Nvidia's modern pricing structure) with a very similar die size on the exact same node with the same RAM configuration (7800 XT). Nodes get less expensive over time and so does the memory.

AMD's GPU margins are likely so small due to the much lower volume they move. A lot of the cost of GPUs is sunk into the R&D and software. The more cards they move, the lower the cost on a per-unit basis.

 

[Zazigalka]

I think I have I narrowed down to tachi or pulse, gotta decide, pros/cons ?

 

[evernessince]

I think I have I narrowed down to tachi or pulse, gotta decide, pros/cons ?

The taichi is higher clocked but comes with the 12V2X6 connector while the pulse comes with classic 8 pin.

Temperature wise I'm seeing 52 for the Taichi and 52 - 56 for the pulse, although the latter might just be due to different testing scenarios.

I personally lean towards the card that doesn't have the 12V2X6 connector, in this case the pulse. 12V2X6 just has too many issues and the rated 30 mating cycles is not good for longevity.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

And at Overclockers UK:
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The non-XT seems to be a bit less popular / more stocked.

Yep are in stock, the MSRP of 426 £ included in the prices. A whole package right there with a bit of Scalping.

12V2X6 just has too many issues and the rated 30 mating cycles is not good for longevity.

Longevity for the power gate or for the plastic.

Seems that Sapphire made a very strange design with the 12V power cable, to prevent that.

However some people are seeing Sapphire not a strong card this time around.

I think I have I narrowed down to tachi or pulse, gotta decide, pros/cons ?

I wouldn't get the Pulse, to light heatsink I think, and the VRAM are hotter on this new AMD cards.
Anyway I need exact numbers of pipes and weight for Nitro Pure and Pulse.

 

[evernessince]

Longevity for the power gate or for the plastic.

Seems that Sapphire made a very strange design with the 12V power cable, to prevent that.

All the above, hard to tell what the root causes of the connector's issues are given we've had so many modes of failure at this point.

I will say that I really don't like that Sapphire has the cable bending like that in the provided graphic either, that's too close to the connector to the point where it'll likely cause pin spread. This only increases the probability of something going wrong.

Buildzoid did a review of the 12V2X6 setup on the more expensive Nitro plus and found that they aren't doing current balancing across the pins either and I'm willing to bet the same applies to this cheaper model as well.

Their marketing is correct, they focused and aesthetics and looks over actual functionality. These companies seem to have learned nothing from Nvidia's mistakes.

I don't understand how sapphire though it was a good idea to put 12V2X6 on their more premium options and 8 pin on their lower end models like the pulse. The 8-pin is a vastly superior connector.

I wouldn't get the Pulse, to light heatsink I think, and the VRAM are hotter on this new AMD cards.
Anyway I need exact numbers of pipes and weight for Nitro Pure and Pulse.

Both cards (Taichi and Pulse) get exceptionally low temperatures, below 57c on the core.

I don't see going from 56c to 52c as enough of a reason to warrant having to put up with the 12V2X6.

This is my opinion of course, everyone should buy whatever best fits their criteria. If cooling performance is big enough for you to put up with the issues with that connector, I'll respect your right to choose.

 

[Deleted member 247178]

I did a quick check, and the three biggest computer store chains in my country have a total of approximately 600 cards (9070) available for sale online. However, they are not priced at MSRP; instead, they range between €744 ($841) and €911 ($991). The first batch of 9070 and 9070 XT cards at MSRP sold out within one minute. People do want to buy these cards, but they will not pay more than the promised MSRP, so the remaining stock will be a hard sell.

 

[mama]

The availability is generally poor. Granted, it’s technically better than the 5000 series, but that isn’t saying much. I track prices in several jurisdictions and countries and storefronts our of curiosity and actual MSRP cards are less populous than a fucking black unicorn. We’ll see 6 moths down the line. Unless you desperately need a card RIGHT NOW I can’t in good conscience advise buying today.

It's a lot better than the 5000 series.