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I am using the new update from the amazing Ryzen DRAM Calculator. I have this memory.



Using the built in benchmark, I have gathered the following results.
3200mhz Cas 18, Best time: 130.31, Random Latency: 86.31
3533mhz Cas 18 , Best time: 117.62 , Random Latency: 80.64
3200mhz Cas 16, Best time: 120.5, Random Latency: 90.62
3533mhz Cas 16 , Best time 109.73: , Random Latency: 82.37
3200mhz Cas 14 , Best time: 120.5 , Random Latency: 85.74
3466mhz Cas 14 , Best time: 110.69 , Random Latency: 81.28
3533mhz Cas 14 , Best time: 111.6, Random Latency: 80.06 (Unstable)
3600mhz will not post at all.

Cas 18 results are with the XMP timings. Cas 16 results are with the calculators safe values. Cas 14 results are with the calculators fast values. It seems that 3533mhz Cas 16 and 3466mhz Cas 14 are the fastest, with 3533mhz Cas 16 needing a lot less volts. I think that is the sweet spot.

I don't understand why 3533mhz Cas 18 had the best latency. I also don't understand why the system won't even post at 3600mhz at all beyond maybe that the cpu is a bit of a dud.

I would appreciate any guidance. I have never overclocked memory before.
 

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3533 was probably closest to where the divider kicks in for the infinity fabric


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Here is some good info on the New AMD Chipset Drivers version 1.07.29 and the Ryzen 3000 high voltage and clockspeed issues:
 
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Here is some good info on the New AMD Chipset Drivers version 1.07.29 and the Ryzen 3000 high voltage and clockspeed issues:

Thanks for that it shows that AMD has heard the community and is doing something to resolve these issues. I was really worried about Ryzen when I saw some posts with voltage at 1.45 volts.
 

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Brand new ryzen user here came from a 3570K to an r7 2700 and the difference is night and day. Complete specs are listed as well.
 
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Brand new ryzen user here came from a 3570K to an r7 2700 and the difference is night and day. Complete specs are listed as well.

I went from an FX8320 to the same R7 2700 and your right it's a night n day difference
 

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I asked this in another thread but it's been lost in the news feeds. Any advice?

Should the chipset driver be updated prior to a BIOS flash for the new 3rd gen? I'm on a CH6 at the moment

Thanks.
 

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I asked this in another thread but it's been lost in the news feeds. Any advice?



Thanks.

I recommend yes. Some motherboard manufacturers state in their BIOS changelogs that you should update chipset drivers before flashing and not after.
 
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1. An X570 mobo (Aorus Master?)
2. 360mm AIO wtaer cooler for the CPU (Corsair or Thermaltake, or even ID-cooling)
3. Case (probably the Cooler Master Mastercase H500M)
evga just released their 360mm aio, might be worth to check that out.

I am using the new update from the amazing Ryzen DRAM Calculator. I have this memory.



Using the built in benchmark, I have gathered the following results.
3200mhz Cas 18, Best time: 130.31, Random Latency: 86.31
3533mhz Cas 18 , Best time: 117.62 , Random Latency: 80.64
3200mhz Cas 16, Best time: 120.5, Random Latency: 90.62
3533mhz Cas 16 , Best time 109.73: , Random Latency: 82.37
3200mhz Cas 14 , Best time: 120.5 , Random Latency: 85.74
3466mhz Cas 14 , Best time: 110.69 , Random Latency: 81.28
3533mhz Cas 14 , Best time: 111.6, Random Latency: 80.06 (Unstable)
3600mhz will not post at all.

Cas 18 results are with the XMP timings. Cas 16 results are with the calculators safe values. Cas 14 results are with the calculators fast values. It seems that 3533mhz Cas 16 and 3466mhz Cas 14 are the fastest, with 3533mhz Cas 16 needing a lot less volts. I think that is the sweet spot.

I don't understand why 3533mhz Cas 18 had the best latency. I also don't understand why the system won't even post at 3600mhz at all beyond maybe that the cpu is a bit of a dud.

I would appreciate any guidance. I have never overclocked memory before.

See that is the thing I always tell, bandwidth is more important than latency, so everybody should overclock their ram to highest possible, if ryzen then close to 3600mhz and lowest timings, even cl18 - cl 21 is good.

Having the same issue even though the sticks check out as stable in stress testing.

Had to drop back down to 3466.
msi tomahawk, gaming plus, and few others b450 boards are limited to 3466mhz, I set at that specifically for that.
 
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Almost literally dropped off my bags at the apartment, after a long and arduous trip back from Toronto, and headed to the local tech mall to lay my mitts on these....
 

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Here's a tip for Ryzen 3000 CPUs, courtesy of XtremeSystem's chew*.
 

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Looks like the latest UEFI/AGESA did some magic for memory latency on my board, something I only just though about testing.
Over 2ns improvement and slightly higher read speeds.

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Compared to the older numbers

 
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Here is some good info on the New AMD Chipset Drivers version 1.07.29 and the Ryzen 3000 high voltage and clockspeed issues:

Didn't know there was a updated Ryzen Master :toast:
 
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Brand new ryzen user here came from a 3570K to an r7 2700 and the difference is night and day. Complete specs are listed as well.
I moved from an i7 2600K to an R5 2600X. The biggest performance improvements I've had were with Blender renders and heavily modded Minecraft of all things.
 
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My rig is up and running, but I'm having difficulty figuring if my CPU AIO pump is faulty, or the GB monitoring software is wonky. Temps would spike to 60C (idles at about 33C) when I perform light operations, like enabling GPUZ or installing software, then drop back to idle temps quickly enough.....still, it bothers me. I may swap the AIO to see if that is at fault. The RAM stays AT 2666Mhz and I don't see any option to change that, the RAM sticks do look great all lit up (yes, I'm shallow as hell)
 

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i saw some reports that one core may heat up during single threaded spikes and some temp software just grabs the highest reading, where ryzen master grabs an average between the cores... those spikes are an annoyance, but its just software showing the hottest core/CCX
 
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i saw some reports that one core may heat up during single threaded spikes and some temp software just grabs the highest reading, where ryzen master grabs an average between the cores... those spikes are an annoyance, but its just software showing the hottest core/CCX
That's good to hear, will install Ryzen Master and see if that makes a difference, this temp spike issue is driving me bonkers.
 

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That's good to hear, will install Ryzen Master and see if that makes a difference, this temp spike issue is driving me bonkers.

i get those spikes on my 2700x as well, its partly what made me ditch NZXT and their shitty CAM software... it wouldnt let me choose a different temp, and the fans would go nuts when it reset to defaults and couldnt handle a CPU with changing temps

on mine, the new RM doesnt change anything.. it'll be at 30C, then 45C, then drop to 30C again just with chrome open
 

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My rig is up and running, but I'm having difficulty figuring if my CPU AIO pump is faulty, or the GB monitoring software is wonky. Temps would spike to 60C (idles at about 33C) when I perform light operations, like enabling GPUZ or installing software, then drop back to idle temps quickly enough.....still, it bothers me. I may swap the AIO to see if that is at fault. The RAM stays AT 2666Mhz and I don't see any option to change that, the RAM sticks do look great all lit up (yes, I'm shallow as hell)

Did you try enabling XMP in the UEFI first? If not, that should be your first step to increase the speed for the RAM. If that fails, you might have to set it manually.

CPU temps at around 60 when doing things, isn't really an issue, your cooler is fine. The temperature is all over the place to be honest, especially under any kind of load. The 3000-series behaves very differently to any other kind of CPU I have ever owned, for better or worse. Which is also making it really hard to know what's "normal". I see temperatures between just under 30C to over 80C with my H115i, but you have four more cores, but also a bigger cooler, so I'd expect you should see something similar. Obviously it also depends on the ambient temperature.
 

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And with some tweaks, my RAM is now at 3733 1:1 amazingly.

 
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I was looking at my old MSI B350M Gaming Pro motherboard after swapping for the B450 Tomahawk and spotted this in the CPU VRM section. Yes, I swapped the thermal pad for thermal compound but the last time I looked the ferriote choke/coils were fine so I'm curious what happened to cause this one to fracture?

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Edit: Nothing was rattling around in the Phantek's case when I was moving it around earlier.
 
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i demand better pics of the damage!
 
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i demand better pics of the damage!
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The last two the thermal compound looks to of been vaporized and collected on the heatsink. Not sure what happened other than high heat. No discoloration on the back of the motherboard.
 

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Board has daddy issues

'choke me harder'
 
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