Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark

[Lew Zealand]

I'm wasting my time with other comparisons.
Game set to Highest preset, RT Ultra, DLSS OFF (activation not required).

7800X3D mode = <80W = maximum consumption recorded by 7800X3D in multi-core applications (Cine R23, for example). In this way, with the same consumption, the 14700KF destroys the 7800X3D in the single/multi core benchmarks.

Default: you know, I think. PL1/2: 253W

By default, I use a middle path, named 7900X mode (<104W), which provides enough power for almost all applications, except rendering and encoding.
So, default versus 7800X3D mode, results and impact on processor consumption.

Note: 7900X, 7800X3D and 14700KF have about the same price, with small variations depending on the country. With us, 14700KF is the cheapest.
In the video, you must follow what is seen in the capture, especially in the third part of the benchmark.
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Default
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7800X3D Mode
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Same settings, almost maximum, CPU without HT and Turbo (20c/20t x 3.4GHz).
The same result obtained by the video card.
Obviously, it is not a viable option because it involves intervention in the BIOS, but it is a landmark about the potential of the processor in gaming.
In addition, at the same consumption with 7800X3D, the differences are smaller in Multi Core (only 20.5k in Cinebench 23 compared to 25K obtained with the <80W preset) and in single core you return in 2020, to the 10th series and ryzen 3000.
I repeat, it's just one of the tests to see if the processor, at 50% of its potential, can get everything out of the 3070Ti.

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???

Who are you replying to and what's your point? You're referring to the 7800X3D but didn't test it... And you're 99% GPU-bound in all tests, making the choice of CPU irrelevant.

This is the SotTR 1080p Highest thread meant for GPU tests, it you want to make some argument about CPUs you should find the other SotTR thread for CPUs where everyone is supposed to run at 1080p Low to properly load the CPU.

 

[Gica]

You're referring to the 7800X3D but didn't test it... And you're 99% GPU-bound in all tests, making the choice of CPU irrelevant.

Exactly, sir.
To "honor" this topic, I still used a low resolution. The 1080p resolution is still strong and the players load the details allowed by the video card. Nobody uses lowest if the video card allows medium or more and, at least in this game, there are no big differences between 7800X3D and a 7600 at half the price. If you play at the details allowed by the video card, of course.

As for the 7800X3D, I've seen various reviews and no one can convince me to compare it to AMD's asking price. Too expensive and certainly does not help video cards below 4090, maybe only in tests equivalent to that of the resistance of battle tanks in the Mariana Trench. This is how it looks from the last pages. I thought that, at some point, you got bored of real and normal tests and deviated to sadomasochism. I had no idea that I was off topic.

Why don't you try with 240p????

Edit: you are really bored.

Topic title:
Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark
Opening this topic:
Download here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/750920/Shadow_of_the_Tomb_Raider
Settings: DX12, 1080p, ultra high

And... The Magic of 3D V-Cache (3080 was used, certainly not in lowest mode)
If we carefully study the graph below, we can clearly see the envy of the owner of the r5 3600X compared to the owner of the 5800X3D. With only 245 fps, it cannot feel the 251 fps gaming experience offered by the 5800X3D at triple price. Depression can set in and suicidal thoughts can intervene, may God protect us. However, the owner of 12400F is the happiest because no one can dispute that he made the best choice if the Tomb franchise is his favorite.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Exactly, sir.
To "honor" this topic, I still used a low resolution. The 1080p resolution is still strong and the players load the details allowed by the video card. Nobody uses lowest if the video card allows medium or more and, at least in this game, there are no big differences between 7800X3D and a 7600 at half the price. If you play at the details allowed by the video card, of course.

As for the 7800X3D, I've seen various reviews and no one can convince me to compare it to AMD's asking price. Too expensive and certainly does not help video cards below 4090, maybe only in tests equivalent to that of the resistance of battle tanks in the Mariana Trench. This is how it looks from the last pages. I thought that, at some point, you got bored of real and normal tests and deviated to sadomasochism. I had no idea that I was off topic.

Why don't you try with 240p????

Edit: you are really bored.

Topic title:
Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark
Opening this topic:
Download here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/750920/Shadow_of_the_Tomb_Raider
Settings: DX12, 1080p, ultra high

And... The Magic of 3D V-Cache (3080 was used, certainly not in lowest mode)
If we carefully study the graph below, we can clearly see the envy of the owner of the r5 3600X compared to the owner of the 5800X3D. With only 245 fps, it cannot feel the 251 fps gaming experience offered by the 5800X3D at triple price. Depression can set in and suicidal thoughts can intervene, may God protect us. However, the owner of 12400F is the happiest because no one can dispute that he made the best choice if the Tomb franchise is his favorite.

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Not sure what you're saying here as you're all over the place but if you're trying to make an argument for one CPU over another, you might want to choose games that are less than 5 years old. More realistic would be to use the average improvement over multiple currently popular games instead of cherrypicking one that's GPU-bound, which makes that CPU chart useless.

But OK if you're only going to play a single 5 year old game with a now-midrange GPU at 1080p, yeah maybe the ideal CPU is a Core i3-12300. Or an R5 5500. Not sure you want to spend $800 building a PC for one game though, that seems ridiculous.

 

[pinkicie]

hi all, this is my score and it is kind of weird. can anyone please advice on my score ? especially my cpu score. thank you. its the same when i tried it out on 1440p

 

[Gica]

Not sure what you're saying here as you're all over the place but if you're trying to make an argument for one CPU over another, you might want to choose games that are less than 5 years old. More realistic would be to use the average improvement over multiple currently popular games instead of cherrypicking one that's GPU-bound, which makes that CPU chart useless.

But OK if you're only going to play a single 5 year old game with a now-midrange GPU at 1080p, yeah maybe the ideal CPU is a Core i3-12300. Or an R5 5500. Not sure you want to spend $800 building a PC for one game though, that seems ridiculous.

I'm just saying that it's ridiculous the way you try to artificially raise the value of a processor in gaming. Your imagination sees versus.
Modern games? Latest review TPU (14900K) adds new games. We have a point of discussion if you can show me how you can tell the difference between 170 fps and 162 fps, the distance between 7800X3D and a non-X 7600 sold at half the price of X3D. At 1080p, everything gets even more complicated because the RTX 4090 can generate over 200 fps with both processors.
I don't know if you understand the ridiculousness you are in.

I don't even understand the role of this strange test, lowest LOL??? Do you want to see the future? You can see the future by studying the past.
The 5800X3D, released last year at the price of the 5900X, now occupies the 19th position in the 1080p ranking with RTX 4090. It would have been WoW if it ranked 4th, right after the 7000X3D series. This is the future of a processor in gaming, if you really want to highlight some percentages that you won't feel palpably.
Otherwise, as you can see, even a 12400F is enough to play decently. If the video card allows you, obviously, because it is the queen in gaming.

It was interesting if you test antiques (such as Phenom/FX or Ivy Bridge/Haswell) with video cards released in this decade.

 

[mrcardio33x]

 

[Paramount]

I found a deal to replace my 7600x to 7900x ..
Do you think the results gonna improve ? by what % ?

 

[phanbuey]

13700kf stock

4k highest

 

[Lew Zealand]

Hey, let's SotTR bench something stupid because it's what I got. Otherwise known as...

A shoddy bomb casing full of used pinball machine parts:

R3 1200 OC to 3.7GHz (@1.3v), 5600XT, 8GB 2800 MHz CL16 DDR4

I had most of the parts laying around so bought an ultra-cheap case, decent PS and B450 and Bob's Your Uncle, you have a CPU-bound gaming machine waiting for AMD CPUs to become affordable in 2023. Frequent frame drops to the mid 20s w/CPU pegged @100% when playing Horizon ZD @1440p Prefer Quality (High equiv.).

Living the dream.

It's almost 3 years later and this Used Pinball Machine Parts PC has become my main gaming rig.

R3 1200 --> R7 5800X3D
Radeon 5600 XT --> Radeon 6800 XT
8 GB 2800 MHz CL16 --> 32GB 3200 MHz CL16
$19 Newegg case --> Corsair 4000D Airflow

You could argue that I should have bought that first but

1) I had the parts laying around except the case and PSU
2) Stuff was not released or unavailable at the time
3) Dude. Upgrading shit is fun

The results:

 

[Hyderz]

It's almost 3 years later and this Used Pinball Machine Parts PC has become my main gaming rig.

R3 1200 --> R7 5800X3D
Radeon 5600 XT --> Radeon 6800 XT
8 GB 2800 MHz CL16 --> 32GB 3200 MHz CL16
$19 Newegg case --> Corsair 4000D Airflow

You could argue that I should have bought that first but

1) I had the parts laying around except the case and PSU
2) Stuff was not released or unavailable at the time
3) Dude. Upgrading shit is fun

The results:
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Woah the average fps more than tripled

 

[harm9963]

 

[Paramount]

with tuned DDR5@6200 CL28

 

[Klemc]

4x Vs. 2x MSAA, well, i'll set 2x and lock to 120 for a cold PC !

 

[mrcardio33x]

Seems I'm like the only one running the newest game version "v1.0 build 505.0_64" of this.
Regardless this is clearly a rather old game not very indicative of modern game performance.
It would appear to be more of an outlier like CS Go in that it relies almost entirely on core GHz clocks.
Then again, I've never ran the older version to make a fair assessment.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Seems I'm like the only one running the newest game version "v1.0 build 505.0_64" of this.
Regardless this is a rather old game not very indicative of modern game performance.

I'm running the built in benchmark from the full game on Steam and have no game updates pending. The benchmark used to be (still is?) a standalone download as well I think. And it keeps prompting me for the Definitive Edition which I assume I don't have. I'm guessing the different version numbers may come from these different game packages.

 

[mrcardio33x]

I'm running the built in benchmark from the full game on Steam and have no game updates pending. The benchmark used to be (still is?) a standalone download as well I think. And it keeps prompting me for the Definitive Edition which I assume I don't have. I'm guessing the different version numbers may come from these different game packages.

Perhaps but my point is I'm simply running a different version and hence comparisons aren't valid.

My R7 7800X3D scores 34th of 104,956 leaderboard (R7 7800X3D) 3DMARK Time Spy CPU, no way in hell a non X3D CPU is besting it unless the game simply relies almost entirely on core clocks, there are games like this such as CSGO (the first one) but these are outliers. An Intel 13900K/ 14900K running 8000MT/s may run quicker in certain games, this maybe one of them.

I never seen the option to run the game version everyone else here is running here. I'll have to look some more. Perhaps there isn't really a difference, and this older game is simply an outlier rewarding core clocks over L3 cache.

 

[Klemc]

Perhaps but my point is I'm simply running a different version and hence comparisons aren't valid.

My R7 7800X3D scores 34th of 104,956 leaderboard (R7 7800X3D) 3DMARK Time Spy CPU, no way in hell a non X3D CPU is besting it unless the game simply relies almost entirely on core clocks, there are games like this such as CSGO (the first one) but these are outliers. An Intel 13900K/ 14900K running 8000MT/s may run quicker in certain games, this maybe one of them.

I never seen the option to run the game version everyone else here is running here. I'll have to look some more. Perhaps there isn't really a difference, and the game is simply an outlier rewarding core clocks over L3 cache.

EPIC

Only Paramount has an older build (488)

https://steamdb.info/app/750920/patchnotes/

12 July 2023 = 492 !
EPIC ? = 505

Forgot RTX was OFF, so i made it again, and DLSS ON:

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D @ 4890.4 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[8r1idn] Validated Dump by (2024-02-18 00:09:58) - MB: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI - RAM: 32768 MB

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DOCP

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D @ 4800.68 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[v1u4xf] Validated Dump by (2024-02-18 00:25:31) - MB: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI - RAM: 32768 MB

valid.x86.fr

 

[Zyll Goliat]

X299/I9 7940x(14c/28t)Undervolted and OC by individual core from 4,0Ghz-4,4Ghz from 1.000V to 1.095V on core with pathetic air cooler and 6700XT

 

[yzonker]

Perhaps but my point is I'm simply running a different version and hence comparisons aren't valid.

My R7 7800X3D scores 34th of 104,956 leaderboard (R7 7800X3D) 3DMARK Time Spy CPU, no way in hell a non X3D CPU is besting it unless the game simply relies almost entirely on core clocks, there are games like this such as CSGO (the first one) but these are outliers. An Intel 13900K/ 14900K running 8000MT/s may run quicker in certain games, this maybe one of them.

I never seen the option to run the game version everyone else here is running here. I'll have to look some more. Perhaps there isn't really a difference, and this older game is simply an outlier rewarding core clocks over L3 cache.View attachment 335149

SotTR loves cache and main memory. I've seen 7800x3D's score 400+fps over on the OCN forum. Nothing can touch them.

 

[Dragam1337]

SotTR loves cache and main memory. I've seen 7800x3D's score 400+fps over on the OCN forum. Nothing can touch them.

Indeed

 

[mrcardio33x]

SotTR loves cache and main memory. I've seen 7800x3D's score 400+fps over on the OCN forum. Nothing can touch them.

Okay then I need to find a way to run the same game version everybody else is running here.
Nobody other than me is running version v1.0 build 505.0_64 - 356 FPS.
Any other benchmark I've ran my CPU/Memory is in the top 1% or better so there's certainly a difference here depending on the version being ran.

 

[radosuaf]

ASRock 6800 XT Phantom Gaming stock, 1080p Highest:

 

[zebra_hun]

720 lowest, 0% gpu bound.