AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review - The Magic of 3D V-Cache 535

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review - The Magic of 3D V-Cache

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The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D processor is the talk of the town these days: AMD's 8-core "David" against the 16-core Intel Alder Lake "Goliath." The technology behind it, 3D Vertical Cache, was announced way back at Computex 2021, and it's finally here, almost a year later. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is AMD doing to Intel what it did to AMD a couple of years ago—the 9th Gen Intel Core had lost multi-threaded performance leadership to AMD's "Zen 2" Ryzen 3000 series, so Intel created the Core i9-9900KS to stamp its dominance on the gaming performance space, banking heavily on the slight IPC edge its Skylake cores still had, and their ability to run at 5.00 GHz all-core.

The "Zen 3" CPU core has lost the IPC edge to Intel's new Golden Cove performance core (P-core) powering the 12th Gen Core Alder Lake lineup, so running a 5800X at insane clock speeds at the expense of efficiency and throwing out the 105 W TDP would have meant AMD repeating a long line of "Black Edition" SKUs, reflecting badly on the engineering prowess AMD built up over the past couple of years. The company had to do something different, which it has by including 3D Vertical Cache.



AMD claims that Zen 3, when paired with a highly lubricated memory pipeline, will enjoy a significant performance gain without having to dial up clock speeds (in effect, TDP). This is accomplished by tripling the amount of L3 cache (last level cache). A loosely analogous engineering feat by AMD, the Infinity Cache memory on its RDNA 2 graphics processors with a "small" (16 to 128 MB) on-die cache operating at high speeds, could let AMD even narrow the GDDR6 memory bus widths generation-on-generation. Anyway, back to the 3D Vertical Cache and Zen 3.

AMD could not enlarge the 8-core Zen 3 CCD (CPU complex die) to make room for that added L3 cache, so it went vertical with die-on-die stacking. A 64 MB SRAM die is stacked on top of the Zen 3 CCD. This SRAM is interlinked with the CCD's main bi-directional ringbus and not some "add on" interface, such as Infinity Fabric, which means AMD has made it contiguous with the 32 MB on-die L3 cache, and both pieces of cache operate at the same clock speed—there's no performance compromise. Both to the hardware (8 CPU cores on the CCD) and software, they are a seamless 96 MB L3 cache, which enables a drop-in compatible solution that doesn't even require OS or software updates.

AMD claims that the large 3D Vertical Cache not only improves performance of multi-threaded workloads with large streaming data sets, such as video-encoding, file-compression, etc., but also has a huge direct impact on IPC, with single-threaded and gaming performance improvement claims in the range of 6 to 25 percent. This is akin to a generational IPC improvement, while AMD is still on Zen 3. AMD is so confident about the performance gain from 3D Vertical Cache that the 5800X3D runs at a lower clock speed than the Ryzen 7 5800X. Another possible reason for that is that the 3DV cache runs at the relatively low maximum voltage of 1.35 V, which is shared with the rest of the CPU die and thus limits the maximum boost clocks, which require higher voltage.

The Ryzen 7 5800X3D isn't AMD's first product to use this technology as the same 8-core CCDs with 3DV cache powers the EPYC "Milan X" server processors, where the company is claiming massive performance gains relevant to the HPC market, compelling enterprises to stick with AMD EPYC and existing SP3 infrastructure for DDR4 instead of switching to Xeon "Sapphire Rapids." I/O is where the Ryzen 5800X3D is a bit less exciting. For all intents and purposes, the 5800X3D could be the swansong of Socket AM4 with its DDR4 memory and PCI-Express Gen 4.0, whereas Alder Lake looks to the future with its DDR5 memory and PCI-Express 5.0 I/O. Intel Socket LGA1700 at least has one more confirmed microarchitecture coming up, the 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake."

And so the 5800X3D really targets those already on the AM4 platform. AMD has even gone as far as enabling Ryzen 5000 series processor support on its oldest AMD 300-series chipset powering motherboards from 2017, so even people with a 1st-generation Ryzen processor have a path to a massive 50% IPC gain (since Zen 1) without changing any other component in their machines. Another big drawback with the Ryzen 5800X3D is the total lack of CPU overclocking support. AMD says this is because the 3DV cache component cannot handle Vcore voltages higher than 1.35 V, which is why AMD gave the processor the highest-possible clock speeds for that limit. The processor comes with a base frequency of 3.40 GHz, with 4.50 GHz maximum boost frequency compared to the 3.80 GHz base and 4.70 GHz boost frequency (and unlocked multiplier) of the Ryzen 5800X.

AMD is pricing the Ryzen 7 5800X3D at $449, which is a rather steep price that places it between the Intel Core i7-12700K and Intel Core i9-12900K. On offer is a gaming performance AMD claims to be competitive with Intel's fastest i9-12900K, a claim made before Intel formally released the faster i9-12900KS, which we recently reviewed. In this review, we test if the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D really is the wonder-chip it's being made out to be, can slay the Intel Goliath in gaming, and earn its $449 price tag.

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Market Segment Analysis
 PriceCores /
Threads
Base
Clock
Max.
Boost
L3
Cache
TDPArchitectureProcessSocket
Core i5-9400F$1656 / 62.9 GHz4.1 GHz9 MB65 WCoffee Lake14 nmLGA 1151
Core i5-10400F$1256 / 122.9 GHz4.3 GHz12 MB65 WComet Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Core i5-11400F$1606 / 122.6 GHz4.4 GHz12 MB65 WRocket Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Core i5-12400F$1806 / 122.5 GHz4.4 GHz18 MB65 WAlder Lake10 nmLGA 1700
Core i5-10500$2056 / 123.1 GHz4.5 GHz12 MB65 WComet Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Ryzen 5 3600$2306 / 123.6 GHz4.2 GHz32 MB65 WZen 27 nmAM4
Core i5-9600K$2206 / 63.7 GHz4.6 GHz9 MB95 WCoffee Lake14 nmLGA 1151
Core i5-10600K$2106 / 124.1 GHz4.8 GHz12 MB125 WComet Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Core i5-11600K$2106 / 123.9 GHz4.9 GHz12 MB125 WRocket Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Ryzen 5 3600X$1906 / 123.8 GHz4.4 GHz32 MB95 WZen 27 nmAM4
Ryzen 5 5600G$2256 / 123.9 GHz4.4 GHz16 MB65 WZen 3 + Vega7 nmAM4
Ryzen 5 5600X$2306 / 123.7 GHz4.6 GHz32 MB65 WZen 37 nmAM4
Core i5-12600$2406 / 123.3 GHz4.8 GHz18 MB65 WAlder Lake10 nmLGA 1700
Core i5-12600K$2706+4 / 163.7 / 2.8 GHz4.9 / 3.6 GHz 20 MB125 WAlder Lake10 nmLGA 1700
Core i7-9700K$3108 / 83.6 GHz4.9 GHz12 MB95 WCoffee Lake14 nmLGA 1151
Core i7-10700K$3258 / 163.8 GHz5.1 GHz16 MB125 WComet Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Core i7-11700K$3158 / 163.6 GHz5.0 GHz16 MB125 WRocket Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Ryzen 7 3700X$3208 / 163.6 GHz4.4 GHz32 MB65 WZen 27 nmAM4
Ryzen 7 5700G$3508 / 163.8 GHz4.6 GHz16 MB65 WZen 3 + Vega7 nmAM4
Core i7-12700K$3858+4 / 203.6 / 2.7 GHz5.0 / 3.8 GHz 25 MB125 WAlder Lake10 nmLGA 1700
Ryzen 7 5800X$3508 / 163.8 GHz4.7 GHz32 MB105 WZen 37 nmAM4
Ryzen 7 5800X3D$4508 / 163.4 GHz4.5 GHz96 MB105 WZen 37 nmAM4
Core i9-10900$44010 / 202.8 GHz5.2 GHz20 MB65 WComet Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Ryzen 9 3900X$49012 / 243.8 GHz4.6 GHz64 MB105 WZen 27 nmAM4
Ryzen 9 5900X$45012 / 243.7 GHz4.8 GHz64 MB105 WZen 37 nmAM4
Core i9-9900K$4708 / 163.6 GHz5.0 GHz16 MB95 WCoffee Lake14 nmLGA 1151
Core i9-10900K$39010 / 203.7 GHz5.3 GHz20 MB125 WComet Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Core i9-11900K$4058 / 163.5 GHz5.3 GHz16 MB125 WRocket Lake14 nmLGA 1200
Ryzen 9 3950X$76516 / 323.5 GHz4.7 GHz64 MB105 WZen 27 nmAM4
Ryzen 9 5950X$60016 / 323.4 GHz4.9 GHz64 MB105 WZen 37 nmAM4
Core i9-12900K$6008+8 / 243.2 / 2.4 GHz5.2 / 3.9 GHz 30 MB125 WAlder Lake10 nmLGA 1700
Core i9-12900KS$7508+8 / 243.4 / 2.5 GHz5.5 / 4.0 GHz 30 MB150 WAlder Lake10 nmLGA 1700
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