Should I stay with the i7-4770k or go for the Haswell Refresh

[Kuroneko]

I'm building a new computer this summer, so I was wondering... Check out my original build/thread here: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/t...-build-a-new-computer-over-the-summer.200416/

Since the new Haswell refresh is now on Newegg, which processor would you recommend me to get? If you want the Newegg link, here are all of them:
http://www.newegg.com/New-Intel-s-4...Index-_-E0-_-Intel&et_cid=7638&et_rid=9436527

I was thinking that the i7-4790 would be the best, but I'm still not sure whether or not I should just stick with the 4770k or something else.



Any ideas?

 

[erocker]

The 4790 isn't unlocked like the 4770K. So if you want easy overclocking, get the 4770K.

 

[Jetster]

Stay with what you have

 

[GhostRyder]

The refresh is going to replace the current lineup but will not offer much in terms of performance differences except in overclocking and temps. I would stick with what you have.

 

[Kuroneko]

I kind of expected that. Considering the 4790 doesn't have much of an overclocking ability, I would rather stay with the 4770k. I could just overclock it to make up for the small amount performance possibly lost and more. Thanks for the advice guys. I appreciate it.

 

[vega22]

4790k is due in the summer dude. check out benchmarks then to help make up your mind.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I'm building a new computer this summer, so I was wondering... Check out my original build/thread here: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/t...-build-a-new-computer-over-the-summer.200416/

Since the new Haswell refresh is now on Newegg, which processor would you recommend me to get? If you want the Newegg link, here are all of them:
http://www.newegg.com/New-Intel-s-4...Index-_-E0-_-Intel&et_cid=7638&et_rid=9436527

I was thinking that the i7-4790 would be the best, but I'm still not sure whether or not I should just stick with the 4770k or something else.



Any ideas?

Well you will want the 4790k (Devils Canyon, not out yet) if you were going to get a 4770k originally. The 4790 is the refresh of the 4770, not 4770k.

 

[NationsAnarchy]

Well you will want the 4790k (Devils Canyon, not out yet) if you were going to get a 4770k originally. The 4790 is the refresh of the 4770, not 4770k.

I'd do the same thing. +1 for you dude

 

[Kuroneko]

4790k is due in the summer dude. check out benchmarks then to help make up your mind.

Ah! I was wondering if there was going to be an unlocked version. Thank you. I'll keep that in mind when I get the money to build.

I want to thank everyone else who posted! You have my gratitude.

 

[Devon68]

Ah! I was wondering if there was going to be an unlocked version. Thank you. I'll keep that in mind when I get the money to build.

I want to thank everyone else who posted! You have my gratitude.

http://www.techpowerup.com/200725/intel-devils-canyon-to-usher-in-5-ghz-on-air-overclocking-era.html

 

[Vario]

Get the 4790k if you don't have a 4770k already.

 

[Kuroneko]

http://www.techpowerup.com/200725/intel-devils-canyon-to-usher-in-5-ghz-on-air-overclocking-era.html

*laughs evily* Ahahaha! Definitely getting this if it is released before I go to college. Thanks for the link.

Get the 4790k if you don't have a 4770k already.

Already am.

I can't wait to have this CPU.

 

[GhostRyder]

Ah! I was wondering if there was going to be an unlocked version. Thank you. I'll keep that in mind when I get the money to build.

I want to thank everyone else who posted! You have my gratitude.

Oh I mis-interpreted what you meant, I thought you already owned the 4770k. If your buying a new system, definitely wait for the unlocked devils canyon i7 as you will get much better overclocking performance off of it. You just won't really notice a difference clock to clock, it will all be in temps and overclocking levels.

 

[Kuroneko]

Oh I mis-interpreted what you meant, I thought you already owned the 4770k. If your buying a new system, definitely wait for the unlocked devils canyon i7 as you will get much better overclocking performance off of it. You just won't really notice a difference clock to clock, it will all be in temps and overclocking levels.

Yeah. The fact that the base clock speed is at 4 Ghz makes it awesome. Do you know if it'll cost more than the 4770k or will it be similar?

 

[GhostRyder]

Yeah. The fact that the base clock speed is at 4 Ghz makes it awesome. Do you know if it'll cost more than the 4770k or will it be similar?

My guess is about the same with maybe a 10-20 dollar difference (Just a rough guess from what ive heard). Intel is really not one to drop the price of anything so they will probably just add this to the lineup with a slight price hike. Of course on a new system if the rumors and what has been seen so far turn out to be true, then it will be way more than worth it for the overclocker. I still remember seeing Sandy-Bridge chips hitting 5ghz and loving it!

 

[Enterprise24]

I hope 4790K can do 5Ghz stable on air every chip

 

[Kuroneko]

My guess is about the same with maybe a 10-20 dollar difference (Just a rough guess from what ive heard). Intel is really not one to drop the price of anything so they will probably just add this to the lineup with a slight price hike. Of course on a new system if the rumors and what has been seen so far turn out to be true, then it will be way more than worth it for the overclocker. I still remember seeing Sandy-Bridge chips hitting 5ghz and loving it!

I'm really looking forward to this, considering this is my first build, this is exciting.

I hope 4790K can do 5Ghz stable on air every chip

I heard it can with the included cooler. They have a better thermal paste. However, I'd buy an aftermarket cooler to help mitigate the extra heat that it might produce.

 

[TheHunter]

You heard where?

All I saw was Expreview speaking out of his azz that it will be capable of 5ghz air.
I bet 4.6 -4.8ghz will be more possible.



btw get at least 2133mhz CL9 ram, 1600mhz will limit it in certain scenarios, not showing its full potential.

 

[Kuroneko]

You heard where?

All I saw was Expreview speaking out of his azz that it will be capable of 5ghz air.
I bet 4.6 -4.8ghz will be more possible.



btw get at least 2133mhz CL9 ram, 1600mhz will limit it in certain scenarios, not showing its full potential.

Do you know a good pair of 8GB sticks that cost roughly the same? I don't mind a $10-$20 dollar difference, but anything more might drive me off.

 

[TheHunter]

Well the cheapest 2x8gb 2133mhz kit is ~ 154$

ie Mushkin 2133mhz CL10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226429


G.skill Trident 2133mhz CL9 ~ 180$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231617

 

[Hood]

Just remember to factor in the cost of a new motherboard when considering this upgrade - Z87 boards cannot run Haswell refresh CPUs, only Z97 boards will work with them, but Z97 will also run Broadwell CPUs when they come out, so at least it's not a "one-shot-wonder" like Z87. Apparently 4 pins in the 1150 socket are different for Z97, making them incompatible with original Haswell CPUs. The 4790K should be out June 2nd, along with a boatload of new Z97 boards, so it's worth the wait for 2 or 3 weeks to finally get a CPU that overclocks past 4.5 without melting down.

 

[TheHunter]

Just remember to factor in the cost of a new motherboard when considering this upgrade - Z87 boards cannot run Haswell refresh CPUs, only Z97 boards will work with them,

^
wrong Z87 will support it, Intel ME firmware bios update. My z87-delux already supports it if I wanted to buy 4790k.


Broadwell too by the looks of it, same procedure with IMEI firmware update.

pay attention what this Intel CEO/Rep says and this was back in September 2013 no sign of z97 yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KeDtXucTwRI#t=23

Broadwell is going to enable 2 types of devices; "One you can plug the chip directly into existing systems (z87, etc) and Second we will brand new systems (z97, etc).."

 

[vega22]

I hope 4790K can do 5Ghz stable on air every chip

i hope intel do not cripple them like ivy and haswell again

might get 6 with water then

 

[GhostRyder]

i hope intel do not cripple them like ivy and haswell again

might get 6 with water then

Agreed, I hope they stop with the whole cheap out on the TIM from this point forward because if we are paying that much for a CPU it should not be limited because of a poor quality thermal compound.

If all these chips hit 5ghz on air, I will be shocked to be honest!

 

[Kuroneko]

Agreed, I hope they stop with the whole cheap out on the TIM from this point forward because if we are paying that much for a CPU it should not be limited because of a poor quality thermal compound.

If all these chips hit 5ghz on air, I will be shocked to be honest!

I heard that this new refresh will include better thermal compound and better heat management, so it could be possible. I don't know if it'll work using the stock cooler... dunno.