• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Single Link, Dual Link and 24" Monitors OH MY!!!

EastCoasthandle

New Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2005
Messages
6,885 (0.99/day)
System Name MY PC
Processor E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard Maximus Formula
Cooling D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s) HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage 2
Display(s) 24"
Case P180
Audio Device(s) X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply Silencer 750
Software XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores This varies from one driver to another.
I am getting a lot of conflicting information about the which DVI cable I should be using with a 24" monitor that outputs 1920x1200. Most sources agree that a single link DVI cable can support up to 1920x1080 at (single link offers 165MHz). However, I can't quite get a consensus for 1920x1200. Some think a single link DVI cable is good enough others believe a dual link cable is better because it offers a few more RGBs.

Here's the deal I verified that my monitor and my HD2900 supports dual link mode so that's out the way. Now, here's the kicker, even though a DVI cable comes with 24 pins if it doesn't say dual link DVI cable it only uses 12 of them (from the information I read so far). A single link DVI cable provides a TMDS (transition minimized differential signaling), a 165MHz transmitter. While dual link DVI cable offers 2 TMDS (2x165MHz).

Here's the point, you want to decrease bitrate by increasing bandwidth. But there is no real concrete information out there that I've found that helps me with 1920x1200 @ 60Hz which uses 154MHz. Some believe that a single link DVI cable is enough while others think a dual link DVI cable will provide more and eliminate something called "blanking interval" but I am not sure how this relates to LCD as it does to CRTs.

Can anyon elaborate on this? For the clarity?
 
Last edited:

EastCoasthandle

New Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2005
Messages
6,885 (0.99/day)
System Name MY PC
Processor E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard Maximus Formula
Cooling D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s) HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage 2
Display(s) 24"
Case P180
Audio Device(s) X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply Silencer 750
Software XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores This varies from one driver to another.

alexp999

Staff
Joined
Jul 28, 2007
Messages
8,012 (1.31/day)
Location
Dorset, UK
System Name Gaming Rig | Uni Laptop
Processor Intel Q6600 G0 (2007) @ 3.6Ghz @ 1.45625v (LLC) / 4 GHz Bench @ 1.63v | AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-62 2 GHz
Motherboard ASUS P5Q Deluxe (Intel P45) | HP 6715b
Cooling Xigmatek Dark Knight w/AC MX2 ~ Case Fans: 2 x 180mm + 1 x 120mm Silverstone Fans
Memory 4GB OCZ Platinum PC2-8000 @ 1000Mhz 5-5-5-15 2.1v | 2 x 1GB DDR2 667 MHz
Video Card(s) XFX GTX 285 1GB, Modded FTW BIOS @ 725/1512/1350 w/Accelero Xtreme GTX 280 + Scythe sinks| ATI X1250
Storage 2x WD6400AAKS 1 TB Raid 0, 140GB Raid 1 & 80GB Maxtor Basics External HDD (storage) | 160GB 2.5"
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster SM2433BW @ 1920 x 1200 via DVI-D | 15.4" WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050 resolution)
Case Silverstone Fortress FT01B-W ~ Logitech G15 R1 / Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000
Audio Device(s) Soundmax AD2000BX Onboard Sound, via Logitech X-230 2.1 | ADI SoundMAX HD Audio
Power Supply Corsair TX650W | HP 90W
Software Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7100 x64 | Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7100 x64
Benchmark Scores 3DM06: 19519, Vantage: P16170 ~ Win7: -CPU 7.5 -MEM 7.5 -AERO 7.9 -GFX 6.0 -HDD 6.0
I'm just using the one that came with my Monitor. If your really unsure pick up a dual link. I dont think there is a lot of difference in price.
 
Joined
May 10, 2007
Messages
1,420 (0.23/day)
Location
London, England
I would pickup a dual-link, if I wasn't sure, but as far as I know, dual-link is necesarry resolutions higher than 1920x1200, but not lower than that.
Still, a cable is a cable, and as long as it works, then I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Joined
Jul 19, 2006
Messages
43,587 (6.71/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard ASUS TUF x670e
Cooling EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans.
Memory 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 4090
Storage WD m.2
Display(s) LG C2 Evo OLED 42"
Case Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo
Audio Device(s) Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp.
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard Tester84
Software Windows 11
I just prefer using quality cables. I went out and bought a dual link DVI-D, and the cable is twice as thick as the single link that came with my monitor. I experience no problems whatsoever.
 

EastCoasthandle

New Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2005
Messages
6,885 (0.99/day)
System Name MY PC
Processor E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard Maximus Formula
Cooling D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s) HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage 2
Display(s) 24"
Case P180
Audio Device(s) X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply Silencer 750
Software XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores This varies from one driver to another.
ok thanks for the input :toast:
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,704 (1.21/day)
System Name Back to Blue
Processor i9 14900k
Motherboard Asrock Z790 Nova
Cooling Corsair H150i Elite
Memory 64GB Corsair Dominator DDR5-6400 @ 6600
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3090 Ultra FTW3
Storage 4TB WD 850x NVME, 4TB WD Black, 10TB Seagate Barracuda Pro
Display(s) 1x Samsung Odyssey G7 Neo and 1x Dell u2518d
Case Lian Li o11 DXL w/custom vented front panel
Audio Device(s) Focusrite Saffire PRO 14 -> DBX DriveRack PA+ -> Mackie MR8 and MR10 / Senn PX38X -> SB AE-5 Plus
Power Supply Corsair RM1000i
Mouse Logitech G502x
Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum
Software Windows 11 x64 Pro
Benchmark Scores 31k multicore Cinebench - CPU limited 125w
A dual link DVI for 1920x1200 will do around 80fps, so single link will hold 40fps... So says the bandwidth requirements for the data transfer.

Considering those facts.
 
Joined
May 20, 2004
Messages
10,487 (1.44/day)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI

With a single DVI link, the largest resolution possible at 60 Hz is 2.75 megapixels (including blanking interval). For practical purposes, this allows a maximum screen resolution at 60 Hz of 1915 x 1436 pixels (standard 1.33 ratio), 1854 x 1483 pixels (1.25 ratio) or 2098 x 1311 (widescreen 1.6 ratio).
 
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,704 (1.21/day)
System Name Back to Blue
Processor i9 14900k
Motherboard Asrock Z790 Nova
Cooling Corsair H150i Elite
Memory 64GB Corsair Dominator DDR5-6400 @ 6600
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3090 Ultra FTW3
Storage 4TB WD 850x NVME, 4TB WD Black, 10TB Seagate Barracuda Pro
Display(s) 1x Samsung Odyssey G7 Neo and 1x Dell u2518d
Case Lian Li o11 DXL w/custom vented front panel
Audio Device(s) Focusrite Saffire PRO 14 -> DBX DriveRack PA+ -> Mackie MR8 and MR10 / Senn PX38X -> SB AE-5 Plus
Power Supply Corsair RM1000i
Mouse Logitech G502x
Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum
Software Windows 11 x64 Pro
Benchmark Scores 31k multicore Cinebench - CPU limited 125w
Thanks, I messed up my math a bit, had a long day at work...
 

EastCoasthandle

New Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2005
Messages
6,885 (0.99/day)
System Name MY PC
Processor E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard Maximus Formula
Cooling D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s) HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage 2
Display(s) 24"
Case P180
Audio Device(s) X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply Silencer 750
Software XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores This varies from one driver to another.
DanTheBanjoman, I am not sure what that means? Can you break it down?
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
7,197 (1.12/day)
System Name ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory 2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card(s) HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
Display(s) 2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2
Software Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation now migrated to W10 with regrets.
The answer is this:

A regular DVI cable will work on a 1920x1200 screen. But make sure your GPU card can output that resolution on a single link. Many cannot. I bought a matrox G550 recently on ebay for a second desktop... and it couldnt even handle 1600x1200. So I binned it :-(

To go big-screen, like Cinema 30", you NEED a dual link card and a dual link cable.
 

EastCoasthandle

New Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2005
Messages
6,885 (0.99/day)
System Name MY PC
Processor E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard Maximus Formula
Cooling D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s) HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage 2
Display(s) 24"
Case P180
Audio Device(s) X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply Silencer 750
Software XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores This varies from one driver to another.
OK I just watched Shooter (love that movie) in HD and again the text is a bit more pronounced then before. Although the movie looked the same I found certain scenes to offer a bit more detail then before.

-Dark colored suites and outfits show a bit more detail then before
-The snowed capped mountain scene clearly show the details in the sniper's white camouflage.

Before although you could see the dark color suites and white camouflage they appear to be blended in with that color and detail was lost. What stood out the most was the snow capped mountain scene as the white camouflage suites appear more detail.

Are these just the results of having a bad cable, etc not sure. But in this case I am noticing something that I didn't notice before.

As far as games are concerned I am not seeing much difference so far with Medal of Honor: Airborne.









 
Last edited:
Top