So GTX 1060 is the best price/perf card it seems?

[Recon-UK]

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/07/nvidia-gtx-1060-specs-price-release-date/

As much as the RX 480 is a great card for the price, it can't touch the 1060 at least not in my opinion.
You do get more features with this GPU, you get 6GB Vram standard.
Lower power consumption, and a substantial speed increase over the RX 480 whilst being only 10 dollars more than the 8GB RX 480 variant.

GTX 980 performance for 250 dollars looks to be a real winner.

 

[MagnyCours]

It'd be best to wait for reviewers to post the performance figures of the card before jumping to conclusions (looks like the NDA for reviews will be lifted at the 19th) and i also have my doubts on AIBs selling custom cards at the $250 MSRP. I have a feeling most'll carry a $20-30 price premium at least.

 

[Recon-UK]

It'd be best to wait for reviewers to post the performance figures of the card before jumping to conclusions (looks like the NDA for reviews will be lifted at the 19th) and i also have my doubts on AIBs selling custom cards at the $250 MSRP. I have a feeling most'll carry a $20-30 price premium at least.

I do agree, however we are looking at reference vs reference here, RX 480 has no AIB cards yet, i'm sure those will cost a fair amount more than reference too.

 

[MagnyCours]

I thought the reference card would be priced at $300? Or are you referring to reference boards sold by AIBs like the EVGA GTX 1080 ACX 3.0 (reference board with EVGA's ACX 3.0 cooler) and not the Founder's Edition?

 

[Recon-UK]

I thought the reference card would be priced at $300? Or are you referring to reference boards sold by AIBs like the EVGA GTX 1080 (reference board with EVGA's ACX 3.0 cooler) and not the Founder's Edition?

No, i was agreeing to your statement, but you mentioned the GTX 1060 AIB's will cost more, well yeah... the RX 480 AIB's will too, so it ends up back at square one.

 

[Frick]

No one knows the answer to the question and you know it. Aren't there enough hype threads?

I want to see how the lower end cards perform. 1050/1040(maybe even 1030) and 470/460.

 

[Caring1]

The only advantage I can see is the possible lower power consumption.
No SLI connections, possibly the same Pascal overclocking limits and driver issues are things I see as a negative.

 

[Recon-UK]

The only advantage I can see is the possible lower power consumption.
No SLI connections, possibly the same Pascal overclocking limits and driver issues are things I see as a negative.

Ughhh don't talk to me about Nvidia's driver issues... they have a lot lately :/

 

[RejZoR]

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/07/nvidia-gtx-1060-specs-price-release-date/

As much as the RX 480 is a great card for the price, it can't touch the 1060 at least not in my opinion.
You do get more features with this GPU, you get 6GB Vram standard.
Lower power consumption, and a substantial speed increase over the RX 480 whilst being only 10 dollars more than the 8GB RX 480 variant.

GTX 980 performance for 250 dollars looks to be a real winner.

So, how are all the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 with aftermarket coolers going for cheaper than Founders Editions?

 

[silkstone]

Reviews will be out soon, then we can see. I'm looking forward to the latest mid-range offerings from both companies as I really need to replace my power-hungry crossfire setup with something that performs at the same level without needing the electricity of a small power station.

 

[rougal]

Reviews will be out soon, then we can see. I'm looking forward to the latest mid-range offerings from both companies as I really need to replace my power-hungry crossfire setup with something that performs at the same level without needing the electricity of a small power station.

Same here.. If this is better priced and perfoms on par with rx480 i might just get this baby... been so long since I upgraded.. gonna be my last upgrade on my old obsolete 1080p setup.

 

[R-T-B]

I want to see how the lower end cards perform. 1050/1040(maybe even 1030) and 470/460.

Shhhh! Talk like that'll get your TPU party card taken away...

 

[vega22]

i think the way they cut the chips up will hurt the 1050 in the same way the 970 was.

but price will be what defines this, and i can't see these selling for under £300. not the ones people want to buy with good coolers and 0 rpm idle and that. if that is the case then the 480 will still be top of the priceref ratio.

 

[KemoKa]

If the other cards are anything to go by, the 1060 will have stock shortages, will have a high overclocking capacity but poor clock scaling, and will be priced above the optimistic MSRP, especially for the aftermarket coolers (because that's up to the board manufacturers). As far as I've seen, Pascal suffers to a lesser extent the same sort of performance drops from using Async, so I'm still not convinced that they actually have a hardware scheduler. Also, the fact that they got rid of the SLI bridge on the 1060 is really, really disturbing. Seems that Nvidia is trying to lock down the capability for multi-GPU setups on lower-end cards. Probably because at the price point they're advertising, two 1060s would beat their more expensive cards. But that's a real shame because the stock 480 is biting the heels of the MSI Lightning 290X, which is one of the fastest Hawaii XT cards ever made. Two of them in crossfire apparently beats out an R9 295X2.

I'm not actually that sure if it will beat out the 480, given that the 960 is not quite as fast as the Tahiti/Tonga XT cards.

Also seems to me that Nvidia was desperate to get the 1060 out as fast as they possibly could, because historically they've waited half a year to release their lower-end cards. We'll see though.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I don't see how we can make any proclamation as to the best price to performance ratio card yet. The 1060 has not been reviewed yet, and if manufacturers of AIB cards price their cards close to the FE price of the 1060, then the $249 goes out the window. Then, no matter how it perform,s it doesn't win the price/performance card.

So...wait for reviews and actual releases before this can be decided.

 

[RejZoR]

Bottom line, if someone is looking for GTX 980 performance but at lower wattage, then I guess GTX 1060 is a good option. It's still half the price of what GTX 980 was just half a year ago. I was a bit forgiving about async for GTX 9xx series, but bragging about best GPU ever to be produced (Pascal) and then (still) not have async compute available, that's just lazy. Especially since AMD has been doing it to smaller extent since HD7000 series like frigging 4 years ago...

 

[Ungari]

No, i was agreeing to your statement, but you mentioned the GTX 1060 AIB's will cost more, well yeah... the RX 480 AIB's will too, so it ends up back at square one.

Actually the RX 480 NITRO is supposed to be only $10 more than the reference card.
With the Founders Edition card scheme, I see the 1060 going over $300 for custom boards..

 

[RejZoR]

Well, getting to know VRM circuitry on reference RX480, they don't really have to redesign reference boards. They are powerful enough as it is. They just need better cooling and modified power distribution. And that's it.

 

[KemoKa]

Well, getting to know VRM circuitry on reference RX480, they don't really have to redesign reference boards. They are powerful enough as it is. They just need better cooling and modified power distribution. And that's it.

They solved the power draw problem through the drivers, and it was confirmed to work. Now if it needs more power it'll pull it directly from the power supply rather than the motherboard.

But agreed, if the power delivery is anything like it is on the Fury cards, you could slap a better cooler on the reference board and be totally fine. I would imagine that's what EKWB and others are working on cranking out right as we speak.

On the subject of performance, I'd take the claims of GTX 980 levels of performance with a massive grain of salt. The 960 could not beat the 780, not by a long shot. The 1080 was said to have more performance than two 980s in SLI, which was an absolute pipe dream. If it beats the 980 in anything, it will be a new title, it will be an Nvidia title, and it will be with a driver that slashes the performance of the 980. With the performance levels of the 1070 and 1080, that's what they will have to do to pull that kind of thing off.

 

[Ungari]

It has been conjectured that SLI was disabled on these cards as two 1060's will match the 1080 for only $600.

 

[RejZoR]

Well, that's exactly what AMD allowed people to do with RX480.

 

[Dethroy]

Well, that's exactly what AMD allowed people to do with RX480.

Because AMD has nothing else to offer at the moment that could compete with the 1080. Nvidia on the other hand does ...

 

[trog100]

disabling or not having SLI on the 1060 cards simply gives the AMD 480 an additional advantage.. CF problems or not a couple of cheap 480 cards looks a good alternative to me to the (over priced) higher end Nvidia offering.. more so if they come up with a dual gpu card based on the 480 chip..

trog

 

[JrRacinFan]

Offload my 950, which serves me well, or stick to it 1080p gaming .... decisions decisions ....

 

[rruff]

...you mentioned the GTX 1060 AIB's will cost more, well yeah... the RX 480 AIB's will too, so it ends up back at square one.

Square one of pointlessness.

AMD and Nvidia cards will always be competitive on cost, performance, features, etc... at least once the early adopter frenzy dissipates. It is like a law of nature in competitive markets. If the 1060 is clearly faster, then 480s will be cheaper.

Forget MSRP. It's meaningless. The market will set the price, and there will be very good deals (<$200) on both in a few months. Wait. Or just pay the premium.