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So It Finally Happened---> First Genetic Engineered Human Born in China

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Of course every controversial project starts with a Trojan Horse. Pretend that you are trying to do some "good", to be accepted.
Most likely China will try to use this to breed super soldiers.

PS: In US this is not done because it is illegal, not because they couldn't.
Impressive genius, strength and powerful people also beautiful, handsome and they have got good voices.
 
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Impressive genius, strength and powerful people also beautiful, handsome and they have got good voices.
CHINAAA~ RISING!!!!! I personally welcome our new Chinese overlords. besides, they have the coolest looking tank so that's something i can get behind. That reminds me i should install Armoured Warfare again. Chinese tank line is the one i picked to max out first.

Sorry is very off topic.
 
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Bioshock may come to life sooner than you thought.
Or Gatica..
Tampering with nature never ends well for anyone.
Said a caveman to another when they saw a fellow use fire to cook food.
Bones is right. We've done more harm than good with biological manipulation. Genetic tampering has the potential to be worse.
And would be appreciated if you could leave out the quickie political/anti-religious snippets - Both are not on topic.
This. Thank You.
Well, if you are Hindu, they believe we already came from the stars (other worlds).
No we don't :shadedshu:
Who's to say we didn't? The universe is a very old place. There are a lot of historical variables which suggest our species might have been "seeded" here.
 
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I'd say the core belief is ~ human body is a vessel for soul. The body is mortal & expendable(?) while the soul is not. Human body you could say, is just a medium for soul & of course the soul is a part of God. There are many sects & gods in Hinduism but the core beliefs are pretty similar, though I'm not religious but I've grown up watching epic tales like Ramayan & Mahabharat on telly in the 90's - beyond that I've not gone too deep.
Who's to say we didn't? The universe is a very old place. There are a lot of historical variables which suggest our species might have been "seeded" here.
You might wanna take another look at that post.
 
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I'd say the core belief is ~ human body is a vessel for soul. The body is mortal & expendable(?) while the soul is not. Human body you could say, is just a medium for soul & of course the soul is a part of God. There are many sects & gods in Hinduism but the core beliefs are pretty similar, though I'm not religious but I've grown up watching epic tales like Ramayan & Mahabharat on telly in the 90's - beyond that I've not gone too deep.You might wanna take another look at that post.

My quote is loose, but I've learned from my travels in India. I will try to get the text my wife (Hindu Brahmin) explained to me. Hopefully to clear up some issues. I may be mistaking Demon Lord Ravana flying Vimanas. I'm told too much from her family that it's hard to keep track.

Yes, I know you believe Brahama is creator of all life in your belief.

Edit: sorry, realized your not religious.

Actually most (all) the elements that Earth is made off (including us) came from exploded Supernovae.
We are all made of stardust.
https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/educators/lessons/xray_spectra/background-elements.html


With conscience is a different story tough, that science cannot solve.

Current belief that is. I have heard many theories and this latest one is one of those.
 
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Isn't this how you get Khan Noonien Singh and the Eugenics Wars?
 
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There are a lot of historical variables which suggest our species might have been "seeded" here.

This. I subscribe to this theory. Also human beings are very different from all other species here, yet we are similar. But our bodies are too different too be directly evolved from Great Apes IMO. So I believe an alien species has manipulated the ancient Great Apes of earth and created a hybrid species, human beings, as an experiment. Thats what I think. And they are checking up on us, all the time. UFO's alien sightings, etc it's all too well documented to be false and hoaxes. Btw our government is either A) aware of this and co-operatign with the Aliens, or B) the "Elite" running the big countries are plants from the Aliens themselves. What's in Area 51??? It is NOT just a military air force testing base. I guarantee it.
 

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Is this the Science and Technology forum or the Science Fiction forum?

Perhaps it's the damned Goa'uld at work here?

:)
 
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Is this the Science and Technology forum or the Science Fiction forum?

Perhaps it's the damned Goa'uld at work here?

:)
Is that a stargate reference? btw i just googled it and it is. But, i recognised the name as i watched an episode of stargate about a month ago. the one where the guy with the thing on his forehead had the alien thing inside him and took it out and gave it to the kid, or something? so those aliens are like symbiotic right?
 
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One of the worst plagues of human mind is fear for failure.
Another great is fear for the unknown.
Lots of combined fears in this thread.

edit: sunday morning induced typos
 
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This. I subscribe to this theory. Also human beings are very different from all other species here, yet we are similar. But our bodies are too different too be directly evolved from Great Apes IMO. So I believe an alien species has manipulated the ancient Great Apes of earth and created a hybrid species, human beings, as an experiment. Thats what I think. And they are checking up on us, all the time. UFO's alien sightings, etc it's all too well documented to be false and hoaxes. Btw our government is either A) aware of this and co-operatign with the Aliens, or B) the "Elite" running the big countries are plants from the Aliens themselves. What's in Area 51??? It is NOT just a military air force testing base. I guarantee it.

I think if you studied anthropology and archaeology, you'd see a great many factors of evolution playing out. It's pure fantasy to say we were seeded to become what we are, comet seeding theories for proteins and microbes excepted.

It's no different to subscribe to an idea based on no credible evidence, than it is to say 'anything' you want about origins. Besides there is the obvious convenience of ignoring the logical fallacy of the origin of the 'super-race' that apparently seeded earth.

As for Area 51. Military bases working with top secret projects tend to be cloaked in mystery, creating self perpetuating conspiracy theories. It is convenient that the US appropriated German rocket and aviation tech and worked on that, post WW2, likely at bases such as Roswell. The delta wing stealth bomber has its roots in German design. Imagine seeing a flying triangle over the desert, when planes never looked that way...

As for alien interventions in our world... Just like Russell's Teapot, it is impossible to refute, which does not make it a truth. I'd also argue, given the media and human nature, such a secret would be impossible to withhold from an entire planet.

So far off topic.

But, back to CRISPR. It shouldn't be seen as creating something new but amending the chaotic and random mistakes that occur in nature. Nobody is suggesting eugenics but the philosophy behind the science is positive. But of course, it would need regulation to avoid the abomination of designer humans (whatever ethnicity). If you are cosmetically designed by an ego driven parent, you begin life with choices removed. If you begin life immune from disease, that is an opportunity to thrive.
 
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I'd love to have my genes passed to my baby he deserves this. the conspiracy theory is that the cia and obama will now edit my baby to look like someone else including michelle.
 

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There's lots of crap that could be conveniently engineered out. History of diabetes in your family? Heart disease? Maybe even something less serious like hair loss?

As for overpopulation problems... well, we could always just... stop overpopulating. Imagine if each couple only had one child? That cuts the population down significantly.
 
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CHINAAA~ RISING!!!!! I personally welcome our new Chinese overlords. besides, they have the coolest looking tank so that's something i can get behind. That reminds me i should install Armoured Warfare again. Chinese tank line is the one i picked to max out first.

Sorry is very off topic.

Remember this cool looking tank? Life's not a game.



Here's another bit of nice info about your favorite overlords. And no, this is not science fiction, its as real as this topic's subject.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-credit-score-privacy-invasion

This. I subscribe to this theory. Also human beings are very different from all other species here, yet we are similar. But our bodies are too different too be directly evolved from Great Apes IMO. So I believe an alien species has manipulated the ancient Great Apes of earth and created a hybrid species, human beings, as an experiment. Thats what I think. And they are checking up on us, all the time. UFO's alien sightings, etc it's all too well documented to be false and hoaxes. Btw our government is either A) aware of this and co-operatign with the Aliens, or B) the "Elite" running the big countries are plants from the Aliens themselves. What's in Area 51??? It is NOT just a military air force testing base. I guarantee it.

Don't mistake wishful thinking with reality and proof of certain theories... to each his own, but 'its all too well documented to be false' is the worst kind of 'proof' you can present in defense of anything. In that sense anyone writing a few books on any subject can take those books and say 'look, its documented so can't be wrong'.
 
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sorry i get a bit excited sometimes and i live in my bubble so reality is harsh for me. My life is 75% video games:( i didn't mean to offend or suggest i condone bad things. i honestly just mean the type99a looks cool for me and that is 100% it. i see your point just wanted to make it known that i meant no implication that i support such acts by the Chinese government or anything. honestly iam lucky to live in UK as it is mostly a very nice country to live in. sure is not perfect but i do like the Uk. so yeah i'm sorry.

also about aliens i got really excited and i love sci-fi so... maybe it cloud my mind. But honestly there is"Something". the governments are hiding something, they even have paperwork on unidentified objects in the sky and seriously i do believe we have been visited by non human intelligent life~

There's lots of crap that could be conveniently engineered out. History of diabetes in your family? Heart disease? Maybe even something less serious like hair loss?

As for overpopulation problems... well, we could always just... stop overpopulating. Imagine if each couple only had one child? That cuts the population down significantly.
^ this. I agree with both points 100% and the second is very very valid, some couples have 5+ children and while having babies and raising children is very nice and rewarding, our current intfrasturcture, healthcare, resources and the earth cannont sustain our growth. A single child is the way forward. Btw if i ever have a partner in the future (also due to my sexuality) if i ever want a child(or more) we would adopt as there are many children that are already here and need loving homes.:love:

your first point is really good. and i 100% agree there is no negative issues with elimating hair loss, the only gain is positive^^
 

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Sure, adoption is another way forward. You don't have to reproduce at all and can still raise a child. In fact, adopt as many as you want, that way you can still have a big family if that's your thing. You're still not increasing the population any and lending a big helping hand to somebody in need.
 
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There's lots of crap that could be conveniently engineered out. History of diabetes in your family? Heart disease? Maybe even something less serious like hair loss?
Due to the fact that we are humans and if you look up to history, you will see a lot of diseases in past such as plague. We cured plague. We will prevent diseases (only current diseases) but it doesn't happen now. New diseases will come but they are temporal. (I don't know but we create virus or other micrological creature maybe they will killing humans)
 
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sorry i get a bit excited sometimes and i live in my bubble so reality is harsh for me. My life is 75% video games:( i didn't mean to offend or suggest i condone bad things. i honestly just mean the type99a looks cool for me and that is 100% it. i see your point just wanted to make it known that i meant no implication that i support such acts by the Chinese government or anything. honestly iam lucky to live in UK as it is mostly a very nice country to live in. sure is not perfect but i do like the Uk. so yeah i'm sorry.

also about aliens i got really excited and i love sci-fi so... maybe it cloud my mind. But honestly there is"Something". the governments are hiding something, they even have paperwork on unidentified objects in the sky and seriously i do believe we have been visited by non human intelligent life~


^ this. I agree with both points 100% and the second is very very valid, some couples have 5+ children and while having babies and raising children is very nice and rewarding, our current intfrasturcture, healthcare, resources and the earth cannont sustain our growth. A single child is the way forward. Btw if i ever have a partner in the future (also due to my sexuality) if i ever want a child(or more) we would adopt as there are many children that are already here and need loving homes.:love:

your first point is really good. and i 100% agree there is no negative issues with elimating hair loss, the only gain is positive^^

No need to apologize at all and I noticed that bubble of yours which is why I wanted to offer some perspective ;)
 
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I think if you studied anthropology and archaeology, you'd see a great many factors of evolution playing out.
While there is evidence to this, there are some unanswered problems.
It's pure fantasy to say we were seeded to become what we are, comet seeding theories for proteins and microbes excepted.
Not really. There are parts of the Human genome that don't exist elsewhere on Earth, even in other intelligent species, and shouldn't exist within us. Therefore the idea that we were seeded is as valid as the idea that we evolved here. Both perspectives are only theory until proven, which neither have been.
 
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