[SOLVED] Frametime spikes/Stutters/FPS drops in all games.

[Mussels]

hi guys i have been having sttuters since i got my pc 6 months ago but it wasnt noticable until like a month from now.
i dont have alot of knowledge in pc stuff so i searched alot in the internet i did everything i could find but still no avail.



i tried
-sfc
-DISM
-uninstalling gpu drivers using DDU
-reinstalling gpu drivers
-clean win11 reinstall
-updating all drivers
-updating bios
-reseting ram
-reseting gpu
-using some optimaztion programs
-disabling devices i dont need
-disabling some services
-memory diagnos on extended mode
-and alot of stuff that i dont remember


my pc also having some latency spikes issues that i think could cause sttuters i tried a lot of things to fix this issue but still the same


im also considering to install and try win10 because i saw alot of people suggesting that it will fix some latency issues






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i also have constant kernel latency


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info about my pc






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Operating System	Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
Processor	12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F
Graphics Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (8.0 GB)
Memory	11.5 GB Free (15.8 GB Total)
Monitor	Generic PnP Monitor (1920 x 1080 @ 165 Hz)
Disk Storage	369.7 GB Free (2339.1 GB Total)
Audio	Realtek High Definition Audio
Motherboard	ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (PRIME B760M-A D4)
Mouse	USB Input Device
Keyboard	USB Input Device

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Operating System​
Computer System
Computer Name
Organization
Operating System
OS Name	Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
OS Version	10.0.22635
Product ID
System Up Time	1/31/2024 1:10:28 AM
Internet Explorer Version	11.1.22621.0
Microsoft DirectX Version	DirectX 12
OpenGL Version	10.0.22621.2706 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Registry
Maximum Size	4095 MB
Current Size	114 MB
Status	OK

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Processor MainBoard​
Central Processor
CPU Name	12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F
Number of logical processors	12
Code Name	N/A
Manufacturer	GenuineIntel
Current Clock Speed	2500 Mhz
Max Clock Speed	2500 Mhz
Voltage	1.1V
External Clock	100 Mhz
Serial Number
CPU ID	Intel64 Family 6 Model 151 Stepping 5
Socket Designation	LGA1700
L1 Cache	288 KB
L1 Cache	192 KB
L2 Cache	7680 KB
L3 Cache	18432 KB
Motherboard
Model	PRIME B760M-A D4
Manufacturer	ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Serial Number
BIOS Name	1604
BIOS Vendor	American Megatrends Inc.
SMBIOS Version	1604
BIOS Date	12/15/2023
BIOS Features
PCI is supported	Yes
BIOS is Upgradable (Flash)	Yes
BIOS shadowing is allowed	Yes
Boot from CD is supported	Yes
Selectable Boot is supported	Yes
BIOS ROM is socketed	Yes
EDD (Enhanced Disk Drive) Specification is supported	Yes
Int 13h - Japanese Floppy for NEC 9800 1.2mb (3.5, 1k Bytes/Sector, 360 RPM) is supported	Yes
Int 13h - Japanese Floppy for Toshiba 1.2mb (3.5, 360 RPM) is supported	Yes
Int 13h - 5.25 / 360 KB Floppy Services are supported	Yes
Int 13h - 5.25 /1.2MB Floppy Services are supported	Yes
Int 13h - 3.5 / 720 KB Floppy Services are supported	Yes
Int 13h - 3.5 / 2.88 MB Floppy Services are supported	Yes
Int 5h, Print Screen Service is supported	Yes
Int 14h, Serial Services are supported	Yes
Int 17h, printer services are supported	Yes
Int 10h, CGA/Mono Video Services are supported	Yes
ACPI supported	Yes
USB Legacy is supported	Yes

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Memory Device​
Memory Resource
Total Memory	15.8 GB
Used Memory	4.3 GB
Free Memory	11.5 GB
Memory Usage	27%
Physical Memory
Memory Bank	BANK 0
Description	Physical Memory 1
Device Locator	Controller0-ChannelA-DIMM1
Capacity	8.0 GB
Speed	3600 Mhz
Manufacturer	Corsair
Data Width	64 bit
Memory Type	Unknown
Form Factor	DIMM
Physical Memory
Memory Bank	BANK 0
Description	Physical Memory 3
Device Locator	Controller1-ChannelA-DIMM1
Capacity	8.0 GB
Speed	3600 Mhz
Manufacturer	Corsair
Data Width	64 bit
Memory Type	Unknown
Form Factor	DIMM

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Drives​
Disk Drives
Name	ADATA HD710M PRO USB Device
Media Type	External hard disk media
Capability	1863.0 GB
Interface Type	USB
Partitions	1
Total Cylinders	243201
Total Heads	255
Total Sectors	3907024065
Total Tracks	62016255
Tracks Per Cylinder	255
Bytes Per Sector	512
Sectors Per Track	63
Disk Drives
Name	Micron_2400_MTFDKBA512QFM
Media Type	Fixed hard disk media
Capability	476.9 GB
Interface Type	SCSI
Partitions	3
Total Cylinders	62260
Total Heads	255
Total Sectors	1000206900
Total Tracks	15876300
Tracks Per Cylinder	255
Bytes Per Sector	512
Sectors Per Track	63
IDE Controller
Name	Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Manufacturer	Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Status	OK

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Display​
Video Adapter
Name	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
Video Processor	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
Manufacturer	NVIDIA
Video Architecture	VGA
DAC Type	Integrated RAMDAC
Memory Size	8.0 GB
Memory Type	Unknown
Video Mode	1920 x 1080 x 4294967296 colors
Current Refresh Rate	165 Hz
Driver Version	31.0.15.4633
Driver Date	12/6/2023
Monitor
Name	Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Height	1080
Screen Width	1920
Status	OK

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Network​
Ethernet
Product Name	Realtek Gaming 2.5GbE Family Controller
Service Name
Manufacturer	Realtek
MAC Address

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Other Device​
Sound Device
Name	Realtek High Definition Audio
Manufacturer	Realtek
Status	OK
Sound Device
Name	NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM)
Manufacturer	NVIDIA
Status	Error
Sound Device
Name	NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Manufacturer	NVIDIA
Status	Error
Sound Device
Name	FxSound Audio Enhancer
Manufacturer	FxSound
Status	OK
Mouse
Name	USB Input Device
Manufacturer	(Standard system devices)
Buttons	0
Status	OK
Keyboard
Name	USB Input Device
Description	Enhanced (101- or 102-key)
Function Keys	12
Status	OK
Keyboard
Name	USB Input Device
Description	Enhanced (101- or 102-key)
Function Keys	12
Status	OK
Keyboard
Name	HID Keyboard Device
Description	Enhanced (101- or 102-key)
Function Keys	12
Status	OK
USB Controller
Product Name	Intel(R) USB 3.20 eXtensible Host Controller - 1.20 (Microsoft)
Manufacturer	Generic USB xHCI Host Controller
Protocol Supported	Universal Serial Bus
Status

If nothing else, THANK YOU for the huge amount of useful information

You need a HWinfo screenshot while the system is at load and has been for some time as well, such as running Cinebench R23 for 30 minutes (screenshot before it ends, preferably) and another when a gaming load is up, to provide GPU temperatures

 

[Ali96A]

If nothing else, THANK YOU for the huge amount of useful information

You need a HWinfo screenshot while the system is at load and has been for some time as well, such as running Cinebench R23 for 30 minutes (screenshot before it ends, preferably) and another when a gaming load is up, to provide GPU temperatures

I'm sorry my reply is too long






yesterday i changed my OS to win10 to try to see if there is a difference in latency and stutters it actually got a bit better, but they are still there. like this one in the middle. and it depends sometimes i get them a lot sometimes not.

-DPC latencies got a bit better

- kernel latency is still very bad and i think it's the thing that is causing stutters idk

-these are after 15minuts of furmark

-and this is after cpu stress test

a report from Why So Slow shows that app responsiveness is very bad

CPU Speed

Your CPU speed ranged between 3993 Mhz and 3993 MHz. The advertised clock speed of your processor is 2496 MHz.

Your main processor was always running above its advertised clock speed which means great performance. Your CPUs do not appear to be throttled down. More info..

	CPU Temperature

Your CPU temperature ranged between 32 °C and 43 °C (equal to 89 °F - 109 °F) during the tests.
Your processors are running cool. More info..

	CPU Load

While the test was idle, your CPU usage ranged from 8.2% to 32.6%. Your processor's resources do not appear to be used heavily. More info..

	Memory Load

The amount of RAM used by your system while the test was running ranged from 40.3% to 40.6%. More info..

	Paging Information

During the test hard pagefaults ranged from 0.0 to 55.8 pagefaults per second. The values reported are considered excellent. More info..

	Application responsiveness

The highest application responsiveness on your system was measured at 13.70 ms. This value is considered critical, your system does not appear responsive. However your kernel responsiveness is not considered poor, the problem may be caused by too many tasks running. More info..

	Kernel latencies and real-time capabilities

The highest kernel responsiveness on your system was measured at 0.167 ms. This value is considered good. There do not appear to be drivers causing your system to be unsuitable for real-time processing capabilities. More info..

	BIOS and chipset behavior

The highest measured SM BIOS interrupt or other stall was 33 microseconds. This value is considered good, no problems have been detected during the tests. More info..

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Conclusion

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Your system has been analyzed. Your system appears to be running fine.
No problems were found.



Report generated on 2/1/2024 7:27:40 PM






and the last thing is this. i get a lot of errors and app crashes.
this is after 1 hour of converting to win10

 

[rodrigoxm49]

hi guys i have been having sttuters since i got my pc 6 months ago but it wasnt noticable until like a month from now.
i dont have alot of knowledge in pc stuff so i searched alot in the internet i did everything i could find but still no avail.



i tried
-sfc
-DISM
-uninstalling gpu drivers using DDU
-reinstalling gpu drivers
-clean win11 reinstall
-updating all drivers
-updating bios
-reseting ram
-reseting gpu
-using some optimaztion programs
-disabling devices i dont need
-disabling some services
-memory diagnos on extended mode
-and alot of stuff that i dont remember


my pc also having some latency spikes issues that i think could cause sttuters i tried a lot of things to fix this issue but still the same


im also considering to install and try win10 because i saw alot of people suggesting that it will fix some latency issues

What are the games you're having these stutterings? Resolution? Quality preset? Power Supply?

Would be nice showing the HWINFO after playing some game.

 

[Ali96A]

What are the games you're having these stutterings? Resolution? Quality preset? Power Supply?

Would be nice showing the HWINFO after playing some game.

in every game.
1080p.
low-ultra, same thing same stutters.
thermaltake lightpower 650w


already showed HWINFO after load

 

[oobymach]

Have you set gpu to msi (message signaled interrupts) mode?

Download the msi util v3 here

MSI_util_v3

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Run as admin, check the msi box for your gpu and apply in top right corner, restart and re-run the utility to see if your gpu has a negative number instead of a positive one. If it doesn't change update your graphics driver and re-run the utility (all you should have to do to switch to msi mode is check the box, apply and restart).

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Also if it's win 10 you're using try this.

1.Search and open Exploit Protection
2.Once on Exploit protection page, set Control flow guard (CFG) to OFF.
3.Restart

And make sure nvidia control panel 3d settings/global settings power management mode is prefer maximum performance and low latency mode is ultra.

Try my fix from page 4, quoted above. Don't use low latency mode.

 

[3x0]

@Ali96A Uninstall all Armoury Crate, Corsair iCUE and other junk RGB programs running in background.

 

[Ali96A]

Try my fix from page 4, quoted above. Don't use low latency mode.

i already did that a lot of time ago, stutters still happen

 

[Ali96A]

@Ali96A Uninstall all Armoury Crate, Corsair iCUE and other junk RGB programs running in background.

i also tried this
nothing changes

 

[rodrigoxm49]

@Ali96A Uninstall all Armoury Crate, Corsair iCUE and other junk RGB programs running in background.

This is a VERY good tip. Specially if you like to use any RGB that is not fixed.

i also tried this
nothing changes

After everything you said you did, it can be faulty RAM, memories or power supply. And theres nothing that is able to test these components in a reliable way. You will need to do the old try and error with all of these. Remember to test one memory at time.

The only thing I don't remember reading about you doing is leaving the BIOS completely stock.

 

[Ali96A]

This is a VERY good tip. Specially if you like to use any RGB that is not fixed.


After everything you said you did, it can be faulty RAM, memories or power supply. And theres nothing that is able to test these components in a reliable way. You will need to do the old try and error with all of these. Remember to test one memory at time.

The only thing I don't remember reading about you doing is leaving the BIOS completely stock.

I did reset bios back to default, nothing changes but there is a thing a want to ask
Does reseting CMOS only reset bios back to default or does it change something else? Because i didnt try that.


And about memory issues, i did a memory test with memtest86 and 64 it founds 0 errors.

About the psu, i live in an area where electricity is not reliable sometimes power outage happen so i got a lot of unsafe shutdowns, 90 of them now.
Could that cause an issue to the psu or some other parts?

 

[rodrigoxm49]

I did reset bios back to default, nothing changes but there is a thing a want to ask
Does reseting CMOS only reset bios back to default or does it change something else? Because i didnt try that.


And about memory issues, i did a memory test with memtest86 and 64 it founds 0 errors.

About the psu, i live in an area where electricity is not reliable sometimes power outage happen so i got a lot of unsafe shutdowns, 90 of them now.
Could that cause an issue to the psu or some other parts?

Like I say, there's no test reliable enough to test memories, HDDs or SSDs. Power Supply have it, but the equipment to do costs thousands of dollar.

So the only way it's changing these to ones that you know that's working. I have more than dozens of cases that faulty devices didn't show anything on these useless tests. There's no other way. If you don't have, you will have to pay for people do the work.

Yes, power instability can cause things like that. And can damage PSU easily.

 

[3x0]

New nVidia drivers seem to address stuttering issues, anyone on nV GPUs experiencing this issue should try https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5519?=&linkId=100000240085402

 

[Domski]

I'm sorry my reply is too long






yesterday i changed my OS to win10 to try to see if there is a difference in latency and stutters it actually got a bit better, but they are still there. like this one in the middle. and it depends sometimes i get them a lot sometimes not.
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-DPC latencies got a bit better


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- kernel latency is still very bad and i think it's the thing that is causing stutters idk


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-these are after 15minuts of furmark




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-and this is after cpu stress test



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a report from Why So Slow shows that app responsiveness is very bad

CPU Speed

Your CPU speed ranged between 3993 Mhz and 3993 MHz. The advertised clock speed of your processor is 2496 MHz.

Your main processor was always running above its advertised clock speed which means great performance. Your CPUs do not appear to be throttled down. More info..

	CPU Temperature

Your CPU temperature ranged between 32 °C and 43 °C (equal to 89 °F - 109 °F) during the tests.
Your processors are running cool. More info..

	CPU Load

While the test was idle, your CPU usage ranged from 8.2% to 32.6%. Your processor's resources do not appear to be used heavily. More info..

	Memory Load

The amount of RAM used by your system while the test was running ranged from 40.3% to 40.6%. More info..

	Paging Information

During the test hard pagefaults ranged from 0.0 to 55.8 pagefaults per second. The values reported are considered excellent. More info..

	Application responsiveness

The highest application responsiveness on your system was measured at 13.70 ms. This value is considered critical, your system does not appear responsive. However your kernel responsiveness is not considered poor, the problem may be caused by too many tasks running. More info..

	Kernel latencies and real-time capabilities

The highest kernel responsiveness on your system was measured at 0.167 ms. This value is considered good. There do not appear to be drivers causing your system to be unsuitable for real-time processing capabilities. More info..

	BIOS and chipset behavior

The highest measured SM BIOS interrupt or other stall was 33 microseconds. This value is considered good, no problems have been detected during the tests. More info..

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Conclusion

---

Your system has been analyzed. Your system appears to be running fine.
No problems were found.



Report generated on 2/1/2024 7:27:40 PM






and the last thing is this. i get a lot of errors and app crashes.
this is after 1 hour of converting to win10


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I posted in this thread 2 years ago and am still encountering the same problems. You have provided a great deal of information which I can corroborate from my system (same issues & symptoms, same things tried, same util readings etc).

Just wanted to thank you for bringing it up again with so much evidence and to ask you to please DM me should you ever find a fix, as I've basically given up at this point.

 

[ahsan798]

[Solved ] I had the same issue, not only video games but whole system frame and audio stutters every few seconds. if you check your framerate, it would show a smooth 60 or 90 FPS but the video shows stutters every few seconds.
Things I tried:
1. Clean reboot
2. Re-installed Windows 10
3. Tried base drivers originally with Windows
4. Upgraded all graphic drivers
5. Changed all power options
6. Upgraded my BIOS

Final Solution:
I downgraded my windows to windows 8.1, every things is fine now, no video audio stutters.

I will try installing windows 10 again to see if it remain the same.

Definitely give it a try!

 

[P4-630]

Final Solution:
I downgraded my windows to windows 8.1, every things is fine now, no video audio stutters.

Windows 8.1 is EOL.

 

[Chrispy_]

@Mussels (or any other mods)

Can you please put post #43's solution in the OP? Marking an 11-page thread as [SOLVED] when the accepted solution isn't in the first or last post kinda sucks!

 

[Ali96A]

i found that my ssd is acting weird when its writing the avg response time as you can see in the pics go very high could it be the problem?

also my apps and games when i open them i get the "application is not responding" and apps are opening very slow.

 

[Chrispy_]

I've never noticed that, but I'm guessing CrystalDiskMark takes about 4 minutes to run 5 passes of 1GB, and that's how long 246190ms is.
If your PC seems to run normally, then ignore it, it's likely just that the benchmark takes priority over task manager's logging with the account privileges you're using for each.

 

[Ali96A]

I've never noticed that, but I'm guessing CrystalDiskMark takes about 4 minutes to run 5 passes of 1GB, and that's how long 246190ms is.
If your PC seems to run normally, then ignore it, it's likely just that the benchmark takes priority over task manager's logging with the account privileges you're using for each.

I dont think that because the write speed is very slow and the response time goes up very high when writing

 

[Chrispy_]

I dont think that because the write speed is very slow and the response time goes up very high when writing

Oh, I didn't pay enough attention...
Your write speeds are complete garbage!

Make sure your chipset drivers are installed and up to date, check the health of your SSD with CrystalDiskInfo, and if everything looks good check it's not an issue with your windows install by booting off a USB-bootable OS like DamnSmallLinux or similar and running KDiskMark for Linux on that.

If the write speed is awful in another OS then you probably have faulty hardware. Probably the SSD, but it could also be the motherboard or CPU - you'd need to test the SSD in another system to rule it out.

 

[Crimzin]

Hey, just read through this, can see that almost everyone has a 165 or 144hz monitor.

I reinstalled windows recently as it had been 4 years and very clogged, I noticed on one of the first games I played, the new Forza motorsport, my game felt jittery, laggy but FPS counter was dropping maybe to 55fps instead of 60 but it felt much worse than a 5 fps drop, felt like running the game at 20 fps.

Well anyway the problem was :

Windows Settings / System / Display / Advanced Display Settings, and making sure your refresh rate is actually selected as 165hz.

Windows defaults this to 60hz even on a 165hz monitor, would explain why changing everything, even whole PC's does not fix the issue people are having.

 

[P4-630]

I noticed on one of the first games I played, the new Forza motorsport

Well..

Frametime spikes stutters fps drops in all games

 

[Crimzin]

Well..

Yea, I fixed it fast, I played Forza after new windows install and noticed the issue, It was weird, it was not like typical lag more like slow mo for a little while but all FPS counters and Hardware monitors told me it was a 5 fps drop, but it felt much worse.

Cyberpunk was the same, I mean I can reproduce it on any game by simply going to my windows display settings and changing the 165hz to 60hz and I will get the same issue everyone is commenting about here.