The Crysis 2 Thread

[char[] rager]

Because I am an ass, right?

I think that is the answer you are looking for.

If not, I don't have an answer.

 

[Frizz]

no, around 400 if i remember right. sony gave some hilariously inflated number.

the Cell's peak is 410GFlops
a stock i7 980 has a peak of 107.55 GFlops

There's the hilariously inflated number Its not false, the cell is much more powerful but it also requires specially optimized software to run on it else we'd be seeing it on desktops etc. Correct me if I'm wrong also, the CELL processor has 8 REAL (not virtual) cores altogether, if anything is holding back consoles it is the GPU they are using.

 

[garyinhere]

I don't see why some of you prefer anal over console... they are no fuss and no set up... most of us have upgraded gpu's 2 or 3 times since the release of the ps3. PS3 wins and will keep winning until the ps4 comes out.

 

[Frizz]

I don't see why some of you prefer anal over console... they are no fuss and no set up... most of us have upgraded gpu's 2 or 3 times since the release of the ps3. PS3 wins and will keep winning until the ps4 comes out.

We upgrade because we want to and who said this was a competition? Have fun on your console no-one cares I have all 3 consoles and my PC, I use them all for different games in my preference I'd suggest more people should do the same but not everyone can afford a mid range rig.

And imo if anyone prefers anal it would be playing an FPS game on a gamepad it's just as bad as playing driving games on a keyboard.

 

[n-ster]

We are talking about peak performance, not average

=As for a fair comparision, a 8800 GTS G80 has 403.2 GFLOPS peak and a GeForce 8800 GS has 396 GFLOPS peak

The Cell may not be the greatest thing in the world, but it isn't bad. Everyone thinks it is the shittiest thing in the world and has no purpose for some reason

 

[garyinhere]

who said this was a competition

umm when someone compares a product to another to determine which is best is the basic definition of a competition.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Hopefully to PS3 version is actually programmed to use the cell cpu good. But I'm getting the PS3 version for awesome graphics and better controls.

Awesome graphics? Better controls? You cannot get better graphics and controls then a built gaming PC and a mouse and keyboard.

 

[Frizz]

umm when someone compares a product to another to determine which is best is the basic definition of a competition.

Really? I thought we were having a discussion and not another drawn out console vs PC fanboy war, but meh unsubbing now..

 

[MxPhenom 216]

WRONG

If the Cell engine is used to its full potential, with the combination of the possibility that Crysis 2 will be a Console Port, It is indeed possible that the PS3 version has better graphics.

OKAY NO! Cell engine is a processor and not a GPU. Processors are meant for physics of the game and other things not visuals. CPU's are also known to render graphics terribly. Even if the game is a console port, the PC still gets AA settings, AF settings, and much higher resolutions and better frame rate. I can gaurentee you the PS3 version will not run native 1080P if anything its 720p or lower. you set it to 1080p its just scaled to that, which doesnt mean its running at legitimate 1080p. No matter what game if its released on the PC it will look better on the PC.

/argument

 

[garyinhere]

Really? I thought we were having a discussion and not another drawn out console vs PC fanboy war, but meh unsubbing now..

There's the hilariously inflated number Its not false, the cell is much more powerful but it also requires specially optimized software to run on it else we'd be seeing it on desktops etc. Correct me if I'm wrong also, the CELL processor has 8 REAL (not virtual) cores altogether, if anything is holding back consoles it is the GPU they are using.

Meh idc if it turns out to be a shitty console port in terms of graphics.. which I highly doubt it will be.... BUT if it is, at least we get to run it at 60fps. I prefer 60fps more than anything especially on a shooter, imo this is why COD does so well in their franchise it can run high frames on console and low end PC... 30fps for an FPS doesn't match up to me!

We upgrade because we want to and who said this was a competition? Have fun on your console no-one cares I have all 3 consoles and my PC, I use them all for different games in my preference I'd suggest more people should do the same but not everyone can afford a mid range rig.

And imo if anyone prefers anal it would be playing an FPS game on a gamepad it's just as bad as playing driving games on a keyboard.

i quoted all your posts in the thread... you talk about consoles in every single one?

 

[n-ster]

OKAY NO! Cell engine is a processor and not a GPU. Processors are meant for physics of the game and other things not visuals. CPU's are also known to render graphics terribly. Even if the game is a console port, the PC still gets AA settings, AF settings, and much higher resolutions and better frame rate. I can gaurentee you the PS3 version will not run native 1080P if anything its 720p or lower. you set it to 1080p its just scaled to that, which doesnt mean its running at legitimate 1080p. No matter what game if its released on the PC it will look better on the PC.

/argument

Fifa 2010

point is if you port in really badly, it can actually look worse on the PC. Has nothing to do with PCs being less powerful or not as we all know PCs are more powerful in most cases

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Fifa 2010

point is if you port in really badly, it can actually look worse on the PC. Has nothing to do with PCs being less powerful or not as we all know PCs are more powerful in most cases

never ever have i noticed that. Post Console pictures then PC pictures of FIFA 2010. Almost gaurentee that the PC picture will actually be running in legitimate HD

 

[Benetanegia]

i'm sorry, why are you comparing a 4.5 year old console to a graphics card that is twice the price and 5 years new and the current graphic king?

the Cell's peak is 410GFlops
a stock i7 980 has a peak of 107.55 GFlops

Cell's peak is NOT 410 Gflops. That's the peak of a blade server using Cell processors and not the same variant as the one used in the PS3. The peak performance is around 25 Gflops per core (SPE) and since only 6 SPE are available to developers (1 is disabled for yields, another 1 is reserved for the OS) that's around 150 Gflops. That's for single precision, DP is 1/4 of that.

I thought Core i7 was around 150 Gflops too, but it seems it was on OCed one. In any case peak performance is almost irrelevant for games, although it may be and look good on some benchmarks like linpack. On any realistic application modern PC CPUs are much much faster. Cell is better in peak performance per die area and perf/watt but that's about it.

We are talking about peak performance, not average

=As for a fair comparision, a 8800 GTS G80 has 403.2 GFLOPS peak and a GeForce 8800 GS has 396 GFLOPS peak

The Cell may not be the greatest thing in the world, but it isn't bad. Everyone thinks it is the shittiest thing in the world and has no purpose for some reason

GPUs have a much higher peak floating point performance, indeed, but once again you cannot compare them to PC CPUs. You can compare them to Cell's SPEs though.

Cell is not bad, but it's not half as good as Sony wants to make everybody believe and people in the know hate it because of that. Misleading info and hype has that effect, at least on me. It's that and the fact that it's so difficult to program and optimize for. IMO It's the way in which console after console Sony tries to force everyone to their programming model, even when the whole industry is moving in a different direction, and that's why the 3 PPE cpu in the XB360 is so successful in comparison to Cell's 1 PPE + 7 SPE approach.

 

[Frizz]

i quoted all your posts in the thread... you talk about consoles in every single one?

And.... your point is? I'll quote you this time.

[TROLL]

I don't see why some of you prefer anal over console... they are no fuss and no set up... most of us have upgraded gpu's 2 or 3 times since the release of the ps3. PS3 wins and will keep winning until the ps4 comes out.

[/TROLL]

 

[garyinhere]

I'm not trolling lol i have not gone after anyone ? Is that the word you use to deflect attention off yourself when i called you out on the console comments you made? I call you a troll

and thank you for the bottom quote. the one that proves my point.

edit: ohh and you must have forgot to press the unsubb button or are you trolling?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I'm not trolling lol i have not gone after anyone ? Is that the word you use to deflect attention off yourself when i called you out on the console comments you made? I call you a troll

and thank you for the bottom quote. the one that proves my point.

the PS3 is definitely winning. have you not seen the sales on the wii xbox and ps3 lately? the PS3 is down the shitter now and Playstation Move i call Playstation Sex toy was a complete flop and added nothing to the market. the Playstation is in a whole right now and will not win and never was.

 

[cdawall]

lol were did this thread go!

the PS3 is not as good a PC for graphics nor is a 360. that being said i REALLY hope that this game was designed for the PC not some garbage console port.

 

[Frizz]

I'm not trolling lol i have not gone after anyone ? Is that the word you use to deflect attention off yourself when i called you out on the console comments you made? I call you a troll

and thank you for the bottom quote. the one that proves my point.

edit: ohh and you must have forgot to press the unsubb button or are you trolling?

lmao it's okay my friend, you win.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

lol were did this thread go!

the PS3 is not as good a PC for graphics nor is a 360. that being said i REALLY hope that this game was designed for the PC not some garbage console port.

i hope its a PC port at least!

 

[garyinhere]

I would lean more for it being geared at the console+

@randomflip... no worries man it's not about winning to me

 

[cdawall]

i hope its a PC port at least!

i wouldn't mind that i could care less if it plays like shit on my PS3 lol

i am curious how it will play on my HTPC...specs in my sys specs min video card but a good cpu....

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I would lean more for it being geared at the console+

and your on a pc tech forum yet you want a game that was first made on the PC to be made on the console and ported to the PC

i smell a troll

 

[garyinhere]

and your on a pc tech forum yet you want a game that was first made on the PC to be made on the console and ported to the PC

i smell a troll

that's not what i said at all... crysis was an epic PC game so why would you think that they wouldn't want to dip there hands into the console money too?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

that's not what i said at all... crysis was an epic PC game so why would you think that they wouldn't want to dip there hands into the console money too?

your wording just made it sound like you want it to be a console port.


ON TOPIC: I have already decided im getting this on my PC no matter what happens!

 

[garyinhere]

your wording just made it sound like you want it to be a console port.

nah meant console + pc thought people would get it sorry