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Thousands of ancient tombs and settlements found in Egypt with IR mapping

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actually for atlantis is kinda not clear, it may fact, it may myth or blend of it, coz until now theres no one can reveal it
 

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this thread interests me. continue your tales of long lost civilisations.
 

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^ Indeed. I want to hear more from erocker about fighter aircraft 20K years ago! :p

My Dad raised a good point--there are probably many, many lost cities and civs underground of which we have no clue especially in areas where the climate has changed the landscape and it appears no one could have lived. Under what's now ocean floor as well.
 
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And slaves. Thousands upon thousands of slaves. All the ancient empires were built with the unpaid labor of the enslaved. The IR mapping is a good tool for archaeology though.

That remains speculation and is most likely a falsehood: many of the builders of the pyramids were buried in their shadows, showing that they were highly venerated in ancient Egyptian society and if you have ever visited the pyramids it is hard to imagine that they are anything but a labour of love.
 
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One theory says they made blocks on site using moulds, they made their own limestone using a special concrete type mix. These man made blocks are supposed to look natural.

They way they extracted stone was to pound on the outside and put wooden pegs into cracks and then pour water in to make the peg expand and crack the stone. They used massive oiled slipways to move the stone.

Mainly the pyramids are made from limestone and granite. Be that slaves or not the ancient Egyptians used mass labour to build the pyramids, they even had villages for the workers to live in near the sites and the quarries. I think they took just over 20 years to build the great pyramid.

A little fact; Napoleons army shot the nose of the sphinx but others have said it could have been Arab conquerors or Mamelukes that did it before. Other theories include the weather just naturally destroying the soft limestone.

EDIT: The pyramids where not made from "rocks" just stone cut blocks or man made materials.
Ever heard of the Baghdad battery? Apparently we knew about electricity thousands of years ago. Possibly even using it to create lightbulbs. Its speculated that they couldn't have used flame torches to build inside the pyramids due to lack of oxygen but then i wonder how people can walk through them if there is a lack of oxygen?
 
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One theory says they made blocks on site using moulds, they made their own limestone using a special concrete type mix. These man made blocks are supposed to look natural.

They way they extracted stone was to pound on the outside and put wooden pegs into cracks and then pour water in to make the peg expand and crack the stone. They used massive oiled slipways to move the stone.

Mainly the pyramids are made from limestone and granite. Be that slaves or not the ancient Egyptians used mass labour to build the pyramids, they even had villages for the workers to live in near the sites and the quarries. I think they took just over 20 years to build the great pyramid.

A little fact; Napoleons army shot the nose of the sphinx but others have said it could have been Arab conquerors or Mamelukes that did it before. Other theories include the weather just naturally destroying the soft limestone.

Yes, but archaeological evidence has allowed us to piece together the lifestyles of the builders: they had bakeries and other amenities that simply would not be afforded to slaves. As ingrained as the image of a stern and oppressive pharaoh might be, largely the product of Judaic/Christian tradition, with regards to the building of the pyramids, it appears to be untrue.

I have read the theory of moulds being used to create the blocks. This would explain the logistics enigma and the manner in which the blocks fit together almost perfectly, but brings up the problem of how they produced the temperatures required to melt granite. Still, it wouldn't be the first time that we underestimated the technological capabilities of ancient civilisations.
 
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This one confuses the fuck out of me. Why carry that much rock, all that way. Makes no sense.
 
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This one confuses the fuck out of me. Why carry that much rock, all that way. Makes no sense.

you don't need a reason to carry rocks, people have done much more stupid things then that with no real reason behind it
 
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you don't need a reason to carry rocks, people have done much more stupid things then that with no real reason behind it

You need a pretty good reason to invest such a gigantic amount of time and effort. It usually just looks silly in hindsight. Then again, people pray to a wall, a rock, a holy ghost, and thousands of gods, and yet that seems to many modern people like a good enough reason to go to war, commit atrocities, rape, pillage, burn, steal, oppress and maim.

Who's to say they didn't have a good reason to move rocks, eh?
 
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yup. and we use steel to support our structures and hard plastics molded to fit certain specs. they used rocks they found on the ground, pounded them into shape with other random rocks, used very little math to do so, and created awesome things. pretty impressive.

probably not a fair estimation of their mathmatical abillities their dude topdocumentories.com have some obv top docs on egypt etc and the maths tied up in the big three pyramids is bewildering they apparently knew about Pye and many other things we only discovered in the last 2000 years, i say discovered as theorised surely dosnt apply.

amazing stuff, who wants to be indy more then me now, no one i tell thee:D
 
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I hope they do same research in iraq, we have old citys more than any other country never be discovered.
 

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Found a live one: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBStNCnBdHEQ0dYA8N5VQq45LBtjRMqQt_NCApvg81YqjU4adt_A

On a more serious note:

Along the Great Wall of China, there are fortresses. The architect of one of these planned how many bricks he was going to need and ordered a specific amount to be made. When asked if he took into account broken bricks, or other similar problems, he agreed and ordered one extra brick: to this day, the extra brick is still ... being extra ... in that fortress.

Tried to google it but, without knowing it's name, couldn't find it :(
 
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In the Dutch edition of Historia (year 2011, issue 4), it is said that the architect calculating the amount of bricks exactly right while ordering one extra upon request was called Yi Kaizhan.
 
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In the Dutch edition of Historia (year 2011, issue 4), it is said that the architect calculating the amount of bricks exactly right while ordering one extra upon request was called Yi Kaizhan.

Googling that name got me there: thanks!

This is the famous extra brick:



It's not like what i saw in the documentary: this legend wasn't mentioned in it.
 
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Imagine just an havey rain before 25 days‏ slide the clay and discover a hole city in AL-Mousel north of iraq,
 
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One of the theories about Atlantis says that Plato based his story on the destruction of the Minoans. I thought you were talking about that. It's a posibility, but IMO it is a stupid one and very shortsighted, as it assumes that historians back then, Plato himself and the pupils that the story was supposedly created for, completely lacked any knowledge about the recent story of an island so close to them, while they knew Egypt so well and they knew something, although not as much, about the Iberian peninsula (to the point they supposedly traded wit them). Hell there's apparently even some mention to Britain islands. So they knew a fair bit about the surroundings as to Plato needing to invent a story about a civilization that didn't exist, when with the same purpose of teaching morals, he could have just mentioned the Minoans. There's no need to place the event in another place.

Regardng the accuracy of ancient historians, it's the same I said earlier, we assume they always used the hyperbole and that their claims were overly exagerated, but IMO that's too much assumption with no single proof. One example is when the number of soldiers brought to battles are mentioned. Historians always say the actual number was probably 10 or 20 times lower and on what do they base their claims? On the number of soldiers brought to battle in middle age, and between many other stupid "evidences", the notion that population has always always been on the rise.

As if population had not been halved twice during the middle age due to plagues and war. And that was during a span of around 800 years and very localized, while just before the rise of the Greeks as a power, a longer, widespread and probably blodier dark age happened, which probably decimated all the civilizations beyond what it's conceivable today. The very existence and nature of Sea People suggest a massive devastation. (ironically though, many historians say Sea People are another myth too, whatever)

But it's always the same, as we move into the future we must be more intelligent, we must be stronger and we must be simply more of us and we don't see the truth even when part of this truth could be explained by this very notion of the superiority of "today". For example, you would say that after the democratic Greeks extended a more elaborated diplomacy around their area of influence, the need for war and the required defense forces would decrease dramatically, but apparently this simple notion is not even considered.

Greeks themselves often talked about themselves as a nation made of slaves of some other civlization that escaped after a glorious victory. An story that resembles a lot the failed attempt made later by Spartacus and his men some centuries later. In this one many died too and I don't think it's too far fetched to think that a bigger "anything" (in this case a revolt) has ever happened before we have records, for the simple reason that we do not have records. It's stupid but a norm no matter which modern historian you read... I'm kind of sick of that actitude whenever I read history.

Alos if you read Plato's "The Republic" he's very much against fiction or any imperfect copy of the truth.
 
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Alos if you read Plato's "The Republic" he's very much against fiction or any imperfect copy of the truth.

What I find interesting is that Plato's writings, Juadaism, Christianity and Islam all stem from Akhenaten's monotheistic cult. I say that without wishing to offend any devout souls or Platonists, it is simply a historical fact: some of the psalms have no meaning until compared to the original Egyptian source. More to the point, who's to say that they all weren't talking about the same thing? ;)

Who knows what we will learn about ourselves once we begin to uncover ancient Tanis?
 
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