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I see it as the longest riser card made, with a display port piggy-backed. If that's the case, possibilities are almost endless (never mind the display port).
 

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we are getting closer now to a 1 cord solution. 1 cord to power your rig and one cord to send data. and with the advances in power over ethernet we could truly see a one cord solution in 10 years :rockout:
 
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i would debate the feasbility of a 1 cord solution, but thats for another thread ;)
 

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i would debate the feasbility of a 1 cord solution, but thats for another thread ;)
and there certainly is a debate but it is indeed possible. when we will see or if companies can agree on a standard it is another question.
 
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So does this mean they are gonna get rid of USB ports in the future? USB is so popular i don't see how they could. I also don't understand why everyone wants 2 Thunderbolt ports. I have a printer, external hard drive, mouse and keyboard. I need at least 4 ports!
 
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Actually, that's 1,250MB/s vs 600MB/s (10,000Mbps vs 4,800Mbps)

I don't see the problem in an external peripheral connector bottlenecking an 8-HDD RAID-0 array or a top-end SSD. If you have 1,000$ to spend on storage, you're not going to use USB.

OT:
I don't know what to think of this in general.
It seems to be the norm to have a competing interface that's only 2-3x as fast.
Firewire's 800Mbps vs USB 2.0's 480Mbps vs LAN's 1,000Mbps.

Now we have Firewire's 6,400Mbps vs USB 3.0's 4,800Mbps vs Thuderbolt's 10,000Mbps.

USB 4.0's 48,000Mbps vs Thunderbolts 2.0's 100,000Mbps is not necessary.

I think everyone's needs can be met with USB.

you are quite right :p many words leading to , a simple answer lol i love it
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So does this mean they are gonna get rid of USB ports in the future? USB is so popular i don't see how they could. I also don't understand why everyone wants 2 Thunderbolt ports. I have a printer, external hard drive, mouse and keyboard. I need at least 4 ports!
You can daisychain them =.="
 

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Imho Its a good thing,tho underwhelming and poorly timed (sata^g fiasco) ,intel now expects everyone to use their socket, and fully change almost your entire pc after many got their ass burned grief style.
ridiculouse too that mobo makers know us and will use valuable pciex lanes to give us usb3 support , culling the prospective greatness of any intel chipset board not good they should have implemented onchip usb3 AND light bolt peak thunderbird multi connector thats just 1????? not rant over
should push a few more AMD's way tho
 

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thought this story was a tad interesting.
certainly is, id expect a very high retail price on them

do you think well get to a point where storage speed dosnt really matter because for my needs at the min sata 3 plus an pciex ssd works well enough
 
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We will need to wait for 5 years before we actually know whether this is a success or destinied to fail like Firewire.
Failure? Firewire might not be as widely used as USB but that doesn't really make it a failure. And except for being cheap, Firewire is superior in several ways. It's still very much alive. The Gigabyte motherboard that I bought a few months ago has Firewire.

Would you say that Ford is a failure because they didn't have the US auto sales that Toyota had last year?
 
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Given they created USB, they are free to do whatever they wish, if they wanted they could never officially support USB and there isn't a thing anyone could do about it.

You can't force a company to create or support a technology if they do not want to.
This is absolutely true. Tho, I think if Intel abandoned USB, they would really lose serious market share. Actually, maybe mobo manufacturers would just pick up the slack with 3rd party controllers, kinda like they have with USB 3.0 thus far...

Any way, I hope "Bulldozer" bulldozes Intel's face in and gets some serious competition going again.

PS-Im kinda drunk. :toast:
 

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and there certainly is a debate but it is indeed possible. when we will see or if companies can agree on a standard it is another question.
I would be happy to have 1 cord from the wall for power and 1 cord that plugged into a hub of sorts where I would get my data and connect my wireless periphreals (mouse, keyboard, monitor, ect.) to.

Failure? Firewire might not be as widely used as USB but that doesn't really make it a failure. And except for being cheap, Firewire is superior in several ways. It's still very much alive. The Gigabyte motherboard that I bought a few months ago has Firewire.

Would you say that Ford is a failure because they didn't have the US auto sales that Toyota had last year?

Firewire may have more speed than USB 2.0 and a higher constant transfer, but the fact you have to daisy chain devices to make it work was the deal breaker to people, it's market share is less than 5% that's a failure given Apple was billing it as the superior product over USB.
 

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Ports, ports everywhere. The future of computing, from the perspective of Intel, and your future motherboard:

 

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That's what those IDE-lovers said, when Intel began to propagate SATA.
You can't compare that.

IDE was going nowhere in terms of bandwidth. It had a large, outdated, annoying data connector and required an entire 4-pin molex for half an amp of power.

This isn't IDE to SATA.

This is SATA 1.5Gbps vs SATA 3.0Gbps.

And I specifically don't compare between SATA 3.0Gbps and SATA 6.0Gbps, because back then no one had a single HDD that topped 187MB/s read/write, and now, I seriously, seriously doubt that anyone would care that they're only getting 600MB/s via an external connector.
 

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Ports, ports everywhere. The future of computing, from the perspective of Intel, and your future motherboard:

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I wholeheartedly agree with that message.

There should only be ONE port for external devices.

We need to have one connector that has latency of SATA, the bandwidth of Thunderbolt, and the longevity of the horrendous serial port.

Instead of creating Thunderbolt, Intel should have just made USB faster.

Btw,
As of right now, you'd to be a cable-phobe or have a self-built 1TB SSD in an external enclosure that supports Thunderbolt (which may or may not come out), to gain ANYTHING over USB 3.0.
 

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There should only be ONE port for external devices.
The idea is that Thunderbolt will be the only port for connecting every device. I believe there will be a converter from Thunderbolt to USB, but I am not sure.

PVT, they way it is, you connect your printer to your PC, then KB to your printer, and mouse to your KB. Works out fine, no? :p
 

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The idea is that Thunderbolt will be the only port for connecting every device.
I think we already have a connector for that.
 

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