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Thunderbolt Technology: The Fastest Data Connection to Your PC Just Arrived

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Intel Corporation today announced the availability of Thunderbolt technology, a new high-speed PC connection technology that brings together high-speed data transfer and high-definition (HD) display on to a single cable. Running at 10 Gbps, Thunderbolt technology can transfer a full-length HD movie in less than 30 seconds. This Intel-developed technology is coming to market through a technical collaboration with Apple, and is available first on Apple's new line of MacBook Pro laptop computers.

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ETA: 2 years.

Think of how fast USB 3.0 came onto the market, oh wait, it is still not mainstream yet.
 
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Can't see it taking off for pc's (Macs excluded) unless they go open source/license it as no one will make devices only for intel pc's that couldn't be used on an AMD machine.
 

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Copper Peak sounds shitty, so they went with Thunderbolt instead :p

We will need to wait for 5 years before we actually know whether this is a success or destinied to fail like Firewire.

Edit: I am not impressed, Bta: "OMFG looks, Thunderbolt connector! Let me try to plug my device through this superfast connector... oh, wait.... FUUUUUUUU...."
On the other hand, USB3.0: "hmm, this looks like a blue USB port." *le plug in* "oh, it works :3 "
 

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Sounds like another FireWire vs USB to me and we all know how that turned out. I don't see a significant need for this by a majority of end users. Besides, it's another chip that has to be utilized, totally new interface, drivers, cables, devices = $$$. I just don't see the point.
 

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is intel integrating this with the new ivy bridge chipsets?
 
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Copper Peak sounds shitty, so they went with Thunderbolt instead :p

We will need to wait for 5 years before we actually know whether this is a success or destinied to fail like Firewire.

Edit: I am not impressed, Bta: "OMFG looks, Thunderbolt connector! Let me try to plug my device through this superfast connector... oh, wait.... FUUUUUUUU...."
On the other hand, USB3.0: "hmm, this looks like a blue USB port." *le plug in* "oh, it works :3 "
Shush! Don't make fun of "Thunderbolt" or Thor will smite thee with his hammer!

But to be honest, it doesn't look that impressive. It just combines the 4x free pci-e lanes from the south bridge and a display port into a single connector. I guess the only revolutionary thing is how damn small they made it :]
 

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so is this faster than display port over pci-e 16x you know a real video card how is this faster if it goes through the chipset vs being directly off a VGA card?
 
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So Intel can't support something made by Intel...
 

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I think the main problem behind this is that it ain't cheap. Take USB for example, it was literally designed to be as cheap as possible, and it was a success. Now Firewire was not, and see where it is now.
 

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I am not impressed, Bta: "OMFG looks, Thunderbolt connector! Let me try to plug my device through this superfast connector... oh, wait.... FUUUUUUUU...."
On the other hand, USB3.0: "hmm, this looks like a blue USB port." *le plug in* "oh, it works :3 "
Well, that is why Intel has been avoiding USB 3.0 in its chipsets. Now Intel will use its market position to propagate Thunderbolt to everything that's been using USB 3.0 in 1~2 years' time.

I imagine Thunderbolt with its 1536 MB/s bandwidth having more market longevity (perhaps for the first half of this decade), compared to USB 3.0 with its 480 MB/s bandwidth, which is already bottlenecking 500+ MB/s SATA 6 Gb/s SSDs in USB 3.0 enclosures.
 
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how long until we start seeing this tech in peripheral devices though? thats whats going to truly determine market take-up and longevity
 
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meh... we already have 100gbit ethernet :D
alltho, we have no servers yet with more than 10...alltho our core switch got 100.
 
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"Can transfer a HD movie in 30 seconds." Well if you have a couple of RAID 0 array using several SSDs, then yeah... All storage devices are fine with USB 3.0, which is also more supported and compatible with other USB 2.0 devices. I do like the idea of a data connector and a display connector combined. Though I don't see new display connectors being widely adapted, since even DisplayPort isn't widely used.
 
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I personally think faster is always better, and I am willing to pay for it, but they will have to expand market share to see this succeed, no one like buying into tech only to see it fail.
 

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Now Intel will use its market position to propagate Thunderbolt to everything that's been using USB 3.0 in 1~2 years' time.
This is market abuse!
 
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Not really, no one will be forcing you to use it.
Well, they denied an existing technology so that they can push their own. Surely that is market abuse.
 
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I like the idea of a small netbook "docking" with thunderbolt. No need for proprietary docking stations anymore. With thunderbolt you could drive a serious GPU with no lag... meaning netbooks could drive the most demanding graphics applications when docked, and could also be used to connect to an external RAID enclosure. All over ONE wire.

This is also an interesting way to interconnect servers. A comms link significantly faster than gigabit and without the horrendous expense of 10G network and 10G switches.

In fact, the interconnect is fast enough to stick CPU/rendering resources at the other end. "Join" your PC to your laptop, or indeed two or more PC's together to great an inter-workstation.

Expect to see workstations with two thunderbolt ports.
 
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Well, they denied an existing technology so that they can push their own. Surely that is market abuse.
Given they created USB, they are free to do whatever they wish, if they wanted they could never officially support USB and there isn't a thing anyone could do about it.

You can't force a company to create or support a technology if they do not want to.
 

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I imagine Thunderbolt with its 1536 MB/s bandwidth having more market longevity (perhaps for the first half of this decade), compared to USB 3.0 with its 480 MB/s bandwidth, which is already bottlenecking 500+ MB/s SATA 6 Gb/s SSDs in USB 3.0 enclosures.
Actually, that's 1,250MB/s vs 600MB/s (10,000Mbps vs 4,800Mbps)

I don't see the problem in an external peripheral connector bottlenecking an 8-HDD RAID-0 array or a top-end SSD. If you have 1,000$ to spend on storage, you're not going to use USB.

OT:
I don't know what to think of this in general.
It seems to be the norm to have a competing interface that's only 2-3x as fast.
Firewire's 800Mbps vs USB 2.0's 480Mbps vs LAN's 1,000Mbps.

Now we have Firewire's 6,400Mbps vs USB 3.0's 4,800Mbps vs Thuderbolt's 10,000Mbps.

USB 4.0's 48,000Mbps vs Thunderbolts 2.0's 100,000Mbps is not necessary.

I think everyone's needs can be met with USB.