Time to upgrade

[Sx2Extreme]

So I just landed a great job and have the money to commit to building my next rig. My current build was done in 2011, and it was originally a Dell XPS 8300 that I quickly took apart and upgraded to the following : i5-2500k, 16 GB DDR3 Ripsaw (10666 I think it was), an EVGA GTX 480, 1 TB Internal D: Drive and a 128 SSD. I have built about 15 rigs since for friends and for a company I owned that was a side job to help get through college. Now that I am doing well, and have saved up about $1500 for my new build (I could go to ~$2500 if needed, but prefer not to). Right now this is what I was thinking, if I build now and don't wait for the next gen of GPUs (BTC Miners Grr), I was thinking of a i7-8700k (bought at $350 last night), a GTX 1080 (I had one in a cart with a bundled $120 liquid cooler for $770 total, brand new from a manufacturers site i have used before. I waited and now the best I can get is the SC2 with a decent mobo for about $900. I will purchase the best available RAM for the price/performance,and also I will be ordering a 2 TB SSD for $378 that is on sale right now, (micron to run everything, I should mention I do have a 1 TB 7200 Backup Internal HHD partitioned in half for media (porn) and System (stuff to run porn). Jk on all the porn, that is only for some of the space. Now the answer you all are telling me to get to, I would use this for about 75% gaming, that is my main focus, on a 1920x1200 monitor (Dell U2410), with plans to upgrade to 4k in roughly 1 year. Of course the other stuff (PSU, Disk Drive Case, Fans ect aren't gonna end up a bottle neck for me). So for what I want to do, do you guys and gals think I am heading in the right direction? Is this overkill for my needs (I like having the best within reason), and is there anything I should know about the GPU/CPU? I do know about the exploits and all that. Lastly if I say buy half tonight, half in a week. What would you recommend getting now? Thanks in advance guys!

Oh forgot to add, the other 25% would be the occasional adobe master suite light usage, and various software that is fairly powerful but not anything crazy (VLC for 4k Porn

 

[Jetster]

You have the right idea. Just that prices are bad right now

 

[Sx2Extreme]

I know man, but I have no clue when they are going to get better and I need a new system because I’m tired of waiting and to be honest as big of a douche bag as I’m about to sound I made decent money off crypto which is paying for this, I never bought any cards for it, I just day
traded it because I’m an investor anyways And I pulled out in December when I cleared enough money to be very satisfied. I feel bad contributing to the problem but at the time I honestly wasn’t really paying attention to the whole GPU shortage because I wasn’t looking to build. I know prices are slowly getting better somewhat, more so in the package bundles but a $300 premium or whatever it ends up being between the card and the ram is not going to break me or give me regrets later. Also I know that people are saying wait for the next GTX generation this year but I could get there and then say well I’m going to wait for the next generation of AMD cards, there’s always a new generation around the corner I Just want to be able to play some PUBG. Thanks for the input man.

 

[The_DriverX]

As far as the CPUs go, just wait for the next gen. GPUs... Ya, its nuts these day (price wise). I've heard that next gen GPU manufacturers may produce GPUs directed at miners? Don't know if it is true or not.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Nice parts, no real issues with either CPU or GPU combo and no apparent bottleneck there either so a good balance, if you do tend to keep your builds for a long time as you said your last one was built in 2011, maybe go the extra mile and get the 1080 ti instead, RAM prices are high also as well as GPU's so you should take that into consideration though you really want as a bare minimum 16GB (32GB would be my recommendation however) 3000+mhz RAM to compliment the 1080/8700k. I'm assuming you have things like the PSU/case in hand as you havent mentioned any of those.

 

[qubit]

You can't go wrong with the most powerful graphics card that you can afford. The CPU is less clear cut, but the 8700K is a great choice, but read on.

I've got the 2700K and while it's aging a bit now, it still plays games pretty well and the desktop still flies. Since your 2500K is pretty similar, I'd stick with it until the next gen Intel CPUs are out. You'll then be able to get an 8 core CPU along with architecture level fixes for spectre and meltdown, which I think are worth waiting for.

As far as the AMD competition, while it's much better than before and they're competitive, they're still lagging Intel in games. Maybe the next gen will close this gap and give us some real head to head competition, but AMD are yet to prove themselves on this, so I won't consider them until this happens. This is because I'm not looking for best value, but best performance, as long as the price isn't too exhorbitant.

 

[Sx2Extreme]

As far as the CPUs go, just wait for the next gen. GPUs... Ya, its nuts these day (price wise). I've heard that next gen GPU manufacturers may produce GPUs directed at miners? Don't know if it is true or not.

Thank you for your input man, I did pull the trigger on the chip but that doesn’t mean I can’t send it back if that is the consensus that I come up with based on the feedback I receive. I did see that they might be doing a product line on mining cards, which may be a good thing but then again that’s more silicone and Memory being used for crypto What a terrible time To do a build. My coworker is a former Intel engineer Who worked on memory for the chips, now he hasn’t worked there for 15 years but has a masters in computer science and knows a thing or tell, he did say that the 8700K was very impressive for what I would be looking for, games, which still rely many times on a single core and that Chip is beating every chip out there for single core gaming. I’m not using him as some sort of trump card or anything, just to say he is another opinion that I’m considering. Thanks again for your input man, it is much appreciated.

You can't go wrong with the most powerful graphics card that you can afford. The CPU is less clear cut, but the 8700K is a great choice, but read on.

I've got the 2700K and while it's aging a bit now, it still plays games pretty well and the desktop still flies. Since your 2500K is pretty similar, I'd stick with it until the next gen Intel CPUs are out. You'll then be able to get an 8 core CPU along with architecture level fixes for spectre and meltdown, which I think are worth waiting for.

That is great feedback, I should note that I have an Xbox One X So waiting isn’t going to be the end of the world because I can always game on it, and I do you have the game that I primarily play on it but it’s not as good as on PC obviously. Your guy’s feedback has all been great, this one in particular nailed the point home, maybe I just need to pull my GPU apart and put some thermal paste on it, clean out my fans in the current system and try to limp it along until the next GEN. I try to play battlegrounds on low, my 480 got up to 105, And now I’m thinking that it just probably needs to be tuned up a little with your input, it sounds like it should run at the very least on the lowest settings

Nice parts, no real issues with either CPU or GPU combo and no apparent bottleneck there either so a good balance, if you do tend to keep your builds for a long time as you said your last one was built in 2011, maybe go the extra mile and get the 1080 ti instead, RAM prices are high also as well as GPU's so you should take that into consideration though you really want as a bare minimum 16GB (32GB would be my recommendation however) 3000+mhz RAM to compliment the 1080/8700k. I'm assuming you have things like the PSU/case in hand as you havent mentioned any of those.

Awesome input man thank you, I do have a 850W PSU, and I do have the Cooler Master HAF That is still the number 3 selling case on Newegg. I would likely upgrade the case just because I want it to feel/look new if I’m spending this much money, however that is not a primary concern compared to performance. The power supply is from 2011, I don’t know the advancements that of been made in that area maybe you have some feedback on that? It is going to be a minimum 4 year system So the TI suggestion is actually a great point, especially since they are getting slightly more reasonable, as sad as it is to say about cards that are double their intended price.

You can't go wrong with the most powerful graphics card that you can afford. The CPU is less clear cut, but the 8700K is a great choice, but read on.

I've got the 2700K and while it's aging a bit now, it still plays games pretty well and the desktop still flies. Since your 2500K is pretty similar, I'd stick with it until the next gen Intel CPUs are out. You'll then be able to get an 8 core CPU along with architecture level fixes for spectre and meltdown, which I think are worth waiting for.

As far as the AMD competition, while it's much better than before and they're competitive, they're still lagging Intel in games. Maybe the next gen will close this gap and give us some real head to head competition, but AMD are yet to prove themselves on this, so I won't consider them until this happens. This is because I'm not looking for best value, but best performance, as long as the price isn't too exhorbitant.

Oops I missed the last paragraph, yeah I have noticed that AMD is remarkably closer in terms of performance then in 2011, Back then I used to have my own computer repair company and was consistently keeping up on the technology but I moved over to a sales position and began focusing less on tech for a while, now that I am back using my tech related degree and my sales experience combined with it, I am getting more involved with tech again and it has been a rude awakening. RAM is just crazy, I remember getting 32 GB back then for around $150-200, Granted it was not DDR4 but we all know that the price increases aren’t correlated just to that.

 

[RealNeil]

i7-8700K is a fine CPU. I would build around that if you can afford to do it now.

GTX-1080 is a really nice GPU, I have two of them.
A GTX-1080Ti is a lot better though. Either one will positively slay games at high resolutions.

 

[Sx2Extreme]

i7-8700K is a fine CPU. I would build around that if you can afford to do it now.

GTX-1080 is a really nice GPU, I have two of them.
A GTX-1080Ti is a lot better though. Either one will positively slay games at high resolutions.

Thank You for the input man it’s much appreciated, now I am on the hunt and if I can find a 1080, or a TI version I will pull the trigger if it’s decently price (all things considered)

 

[Space Lynx]

Does anyone know if the Z370 motherboards will fit the 8 core Ice Lakes later this year / early next year? If so I'd be fine with doing 8700k now, and then taking a $80-100 loss on it selling it when the 8 core comes out. Thoughts?

 

[sneekypeet]

Free pass cleanup performed. Anyone who wants to continue will be given a vacation!

 

[RealNeil]

now I am on the hunt and if I can find a 1080, or a TI version I will pull the trigger if it’s decently price

EVGA's website has discounted B-stock GPUs for sale at times. This one is $779.00
I bought a GTX-980Ti from them and it's still going strong.

 

[Sx2Extreme]

EVGA's website has discounted B-stock GPUs for sale at times. This one is $779.00
I bought a GTX-980Ti from them and it's still going strong.

Thansks man, I actually snagged a bundle last night. Got the 1080 for $609 and paid about $90 for a CPU Cooler (which i would of bought anyways) that alone costed $120. So it’s kind of like I got the 1080 for $589 by buying a $120 liquid cooler I needed.

Also: Thank you to everyone who helped me on here, I’m happy I found this place and I will be sticking around so expect some Benchmarks and pics of the final build you guys helped make happen.

EVGA's website has discounted B-stock GPUs for sale at times. This one is $779.00
I bought a GTX-980Ti from them and it's still going strong.

But man that is a steal, Are those refurbished or just open box/dinged boxes?

 

[RealNeil]

Thansks man, I actually snagged a bundle last night. Got the 1080 for $609 and paid about $90 for a CPU Cooler (which i would of bought anyways) that alone costed $120. So it’s kind of like I got the 1080 for $589 by buying a $120 liquid cooler I needed.

Also: Thank you to everyone who helped me on here, I’m happy I found this place and I will be sticking around so expect some Benchmarks and pics of the final build you guys helped make happen.


But man that is a steal, Are those refurbished or just open box/dinged boxes?

My 980Ti came in a brown box, but it looked brand new. As I said before, it's been a very good GPU for a long time.

 

[eidairaman1]

Does anyone know if the Z370 motherboards will fit the 8 core Ice Lakes later this year / early next year? If so I'd be fine with doing 8700k now, and then taking a $80-100 loss on it selling it when the 8 core comes out. Thoughts?

It should referencing Intels old Tick/tock cycle, typically youd get 2 CPUs in 1 gen for same skt, then they would change the socket, so those new parts are considered 9th gen core i.

 

[conradbethel]

So I just landed a great job and have the money to commit to building my next rig. My current build was done in 2011, and it was originally a Dell XPS 8300 that I quickly took apart and upgraded to the following : i5-2500k, 16 GB DDR3 Ripsaw (10666 I think it was), an EVGA GTX 480, 1 TB Internal D: Drive and a 128 SSD. I have built about 15 rigs since for friends and for a company I owned that was a side job to help get through college. Now that I am doing well, and have saved up about $1500 for my new build (I could go to ~$2500 if needed, but prefer not to). Right now this is what I was thinking, if I build now and don't wait for the next gen of GPUs (BTC Miners Grr), I was thinking of a i7-8700k (bought at $350 last night), a GTX 1080 (I had one in a cart with a bundled $120 liquid cooler for $770 total, brand new from a manufacturers site i have used before. I waited and now the best I can get is the SC2 with a decent mobo for about $900. I will purchase the best available RAM for the price/performance,and also I will be ordering a 2 TB SSD for $378 that is on sale right now, (micron to run everything, I should mention I do have a 1 TB 7200 Backup Internal HHD partitioned in half for media (porn) and System (stuff to run porn). Jk on all the porn, that is only for some of the space. Now the answer you all are telling me to get to, I would use this for about 75% gaming, that is my main focus, on a 1920x1200 monitor (Dell U2410), with plans to upgrade to 4k in roughly 1 year. Of course the other stuff (PSU, Disk Drive Case, Fans ect aren't gonna end up a bottle neck for me). So for what I want to do, do you guys and gals think I am heading in the right direction? Is this overkill for my needs (I like having the best within reason), and is there anything I should know about the GPU/CPU? I do know about the exploits and all that. Lastly if I say buy half tonight, half in a week. What would you recommend getting now? Thanks in advance guys!

Oh forgot to add, the other 25% would be the occasional adobe master suite light usage, and various software that is fairly powerful but not anything crazy (VLC for 4k Porn

I found it also here https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/time-for-new-build.241614/

 

[peche]

@Sx2Extreme how much money do you have for the new build?
are you planing to start a brand new build or gonna re-use parts from any previous build? also do you have any past build or currently build in use?


Regards,