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Toshiba Launches Industry's First 512GB Solid State Drives Using 43nm MLC NAND

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Toshiba Corporation today announced the expansion of their line up of NAND-flash-based solid state drives (SSD) with the industry's first 2.5-inch 512-gigabyte (GB) SSD and a broad family of fast read/write SSDs based on 43 nanometer (nm) Multi-Level Cell NAND. The new drives provide a high level of performance and endurance for use in notebook computers, gaming and home entertainment systems, and will be showcased at International CES 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada from January 8 to 11, 2009.

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Now make them affordable and i'll take 3.
 

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I hope they get somewhere near the stated read and write speeds.
 

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I am still puzzled why they don't come out with 3.5" sizes for the normal people who actually use desktops (someone could make alot of money!)
 
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I guess I'm not normal ;)

Bring on more 2.5" cases! Or even better, for us with cases like the Antec 900/1200, Lian-Li A17/A70 - offer 5.25" HDD bays for 2.5" drives.
 

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I would have thought it'd be cheaper for the manufacturers to make 2.5" drives instead of the 5.25". It would be good if they could do a dual SDD in a 5.25" package. That'd be something... hmmm... idea brewing. :p
 

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I think you are mistaking servers for laptops...
Most new servers are going to 2.5" drives.
Reason being, you can fit more than 2x the number of 2.5" drives in the volume that a regular 3.5" drive would take.
This market is expanding very quickly.

The reason why they make it in a 2.5" form factor is for greater compatibility. You can use it in the new servers, notebooks, and desktops (with a 3.5" bay adapter if need be).

Its much also cheaper to mass produce a lower number of different form factors.
 
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Even if you include servers in the reason they manufacture SSDs as 2.5" drives, I can't think of very many companies that would want to switch to SSDs. Even if you could fit double the drives its still less data storage than what you can get from a single HDD. And HDDs come in 15k flavor nowadays, so even if there is a performance boost, its not as drastic as going from a mainstream 7200 to a SSD. All power consumption savings would be nulled because you need 2-3x the amount of drives to get the same storage, you'd need more active cooling I'd imagine because more parts crammed into one place is always bad, even if they are better with heat. I think it can be quite safely said 2.5" SSDs are NOT made for the server market right now. Companies do still have to worry about being profitable, seeming how money hasn't been abolished yet.
 
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I think you are mistaking servers for laptops...
Laptop, server, and mini-ITX cases at the moment.

I would have thought it'd be cheaper for the manufacturers to make 2.5" drives instead of the 5.25". It would be good if they could do a dual SDD in a 5.25" package. That'd be something... hmmm... idea brewing. :p
Supermicro and others have 5.25" bays that hold 4 x 2.5". Noisy little 40mm fans though. I'm hoping for a more consumer-level bay, like the Lian-Li EX-H33 and EX-H34, which fit 3 or 4 3.5" drives in 3 x 5.25" space with a nice quiet 120mm. Could easily fit 6 x 2.5" drives in the same space, with a lot of space for airflow.
 
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Even if you include servers in the reason they manufacture SSDs as 2.5" drives, I can't think of very many companies that would want to switch to SSDs. Even if you could fit double the drives its still less data storage than what you can get from a single HDD. And HDDs come in 15k flavor nowadays, so even if there is a performance boost, its not as drastic as going from a mainstream 7200 to a SSD. All power consumption savings would be nulled because you need 2-3x the amount of drives to get the same storage, you'd need more active cooling I'd imagine because more parts crammed into one place is always bad, even if they are better with heat. I think it can be quite safely said 2.5" SSDs are NOT made for the server market right now. Companies do still have to worry about being profitable, seeming how money hasn't been abolished yet.
So? Double the drives for the same capacity, but my IOPS just increased 100-fold :D Which is quite important these days as the performance and number of cpu cores continue to increase. A 2P/8C server with 32GB RAM is fairly cheap and could handle dozens of VM's -- if you have the storage system to handle it.

And was mentioned before by another poster - flexibility. A 2U with 16 2.5" bays allows for a number of options - a mix of 2.5" SSD and 2.5" MHD (Velociraptor, for example) along with a number of array options.

But yes, it's just the beginning for (flash-based) SSD's in servers. There's only a couple SSD lines that are aimed at this market at the moment.
 

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Even if you include servers in the reason they manufacture SSDs as 2.5" drives, I can't think of very many companies that would want to switch to SSDs. Even if you could fit double the drives its still less data storage than what you can get from a single HDD. And HDDs come in 15k flavor nowadays, so even if there is a performance boost, its not as drastic as going from a mainstream 7200 to a SSD. All power consumption savings would be nulled because you need 2-3x the amount of drives to get the same storage, you'd need more active cooling I'd imagine because more parts crammed into one place is always bad, even if they are better with heat. I think it can be quite safely said 2.5" SSDs are NOT made for the server market right now. Companies do still have to worry about being profitable, seeming how money hasn't been abolished yet.
My initial comment was just in regards to 2.5" drives (both SSD and traditional hard drives) being used for new generation servers.

But for 2.5" SSDs in server systems compared to 3.5" drives...
Double drives + RAID = way more IOPS, minimal seek time, and excellent data recoverability.

As for power consumption, think about it for a second.
You're gonna keep your 15k hard drive spun up at 100% duty cycle,
yet consume less active and idle power than 2 SSD's? nope.
As for capacity, if you look at a full server rack..
capacity typically won't be a limiting factor.

I would agree that 2.5" SSDs are not yet well suited for the majority of the low-end and mid-range server market right now.
They are, however, perfectly suited for the high-end server market.

I work for the #2 Intel distributor in the Americas.
I know a thing or two about what's going on in the industry.
 
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I wont even consider an SSD until they reach the 2Tb and beyond. Need i mention that the 2Tb SSD needs to be very well priced ?

The whole design, outlay of the current pc is majorly flawed. Producing ONLY 2.5" drives is one way to standardize the hdd rack for upcomming pc's. 2.5" is an inch too big so in my books 3.5" is 2 inches too big. I love advancement in technology, i hate paying thru the teeth for it, i do this to myself!
 

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I wont even consider an SSD until they reach the 2Tb and beyond. Need i mention that the 2Tb SSD needs to be very well priced ?

The whole design, outlay of the current pc is majorly flawed. Producing ONLY 2.5" drives is one way to standardize the hdd rack for upcomming pc's. 2.5" is an inch too big so in my books 3.5" is 2 inches too big. I love advancement in technology, i hate paying thru the teeth for it, i do this to myself!
You're gonna be waiting a long while.
Why 2TB? There aren't even 2TB hard drives out yet..