TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

Jakethesnake011 · May 17, 2009

I dont know what fans would be the best. I really like the Delta's but I do not want to pay 100 bucks for fans. So I was more leaning towards the Ultra Kaze's 3k Rpm's. Or I do have 2 s-flex's here already and i can get some more to add to it, truthfully I do not know what the best fans would be.

Fitseries3 · May 17, 2009

try ebay. you really need to learn to be more resourceful. if you pay full price for everything you are going to go broke real fast.... like other ppl have in the past.

dark2099 · May 17, 2009

I am running Ultra Kaze's on my rads, 6 in total and they do a great job, might want to get a fan controller to go with them so you can adjust to your liking.

Fitseries3 · May 17, 2009

i ran 6 ultra kazes on my old setup. i now run 10 delta 140mm's that are 72db each... but i run them at half speed/voltage. they are still around 42db

fire2havoc · May 17, 2009

Ultra Kazes are too loud for my taste. I recently got the Scythe S-Flex SFF21F (1600rpm) and haven't looked back.

Jakethesnake011 · May 17, 2009

I found someone selling some san aces they are 120mm by 38mm, and they are the 88cfm at 1900rpm fans they look nice. They do not have a fan control lead on them, only a blue and red wire, which makes me think they are older with the 2 wire setup. here is a pic http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1988/sanace004.jpg They seem like some nice fans to put on that gtx 480, look like they have some good static pressure.

Chicken Patty · May 17, 2009

jake the setup is good bro. But like FIT said, you might find some good deals dude, look around. However, I have the same rad bro and that thing is a monster. I have said for a long time the culprit of my average temps is my CPU block (Apogee GTZ). HOwever somebody on here told me and linked me to this review. Might have been over at the RRR forums (Real Rod Riders) :laugh:

Check out this review, for the GTX 480 to be efficient it has to have very high flow fans, so ultra kaze is what everyone recommended me.

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/HWlabs480GTX-Review.html

mudkip · May 17, 2009

Hey does anyone knows how to know your VID ?
I hear something about realtemp but my VID doesn't show up.

Chicken Patty · May 17, 2009

mudkip said:
Hey does anyone knows how to know your VID ?
I hear something about realtemp but my VID doesn't show up.

this is explained in the very early stages of this thread, I really don't know where to look though, if possible to look. Search VID in this thread, you should find the answer.

mudkip · May 17, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
this is explained in the very early stages of this thread, I really don't know where to look though, if possible to look. Search VID in this thread, you should find the answer.

I did , nothing came up. or is it because of the time

Chicken Patty · May 17, 2009

mudkip said:
I did , nothing came up. or is it because of the time

there is something about VID on page 1, I just saw it.

mudkip · May 17, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
there is something about VID on page 1, I just saw it.

Sorry but there's nothing about getting info about your VID

Jakethesnake011 · May 17, 2009

Now for the pump I was looking at the MCP655 the one with the speed control. It is only a few bucks more at this point, but if I dont get it on sale I might just get the regular one without the speed control. They seem like nice pumps and I see or hear many people having them.

Chicken Patty · May 17, 2009

Jakethesnake011 said:
Now for the pump I was looking at the MCP655 the one with the speed control. It is only a few bucks more at this point, but if I dont get it on sale I might just get the regular one without the speed control. They seem like nice pumps and I see or hear many people having them.

its a great pump, but a MCP 355 with a xspc top performs better, its been proven here

mudkip · May 17, 2009

I'm getting tired of talking about pumps and rads all the time.

As I said before:

mudkip said:
Excuse me but why it's all about watercooling all the time , isn't this supposed to be about i7 overclocking , and yes cooling is a part of overclocking but i think that this is going way too offtopic.

t_ski · May 17, 2009

Jakethesnake011 said:
Now for the pump I was looking at the MCP655 the one with the speed control. It is only a few bucks more at this point, but if I dont get it on sale I might just get the regular one without the speed control. They seem like nice pumps and I see or hear many people having them.

655 is with the speed control (iirc) and the 655 B is without. The one without is like the variable version set on 4, so the extra is worth it to me. Given the big rad you're looking at, it might help. If you want to only buy the pump, that is. Everyone else swears by the 355 18W with the extra top.

Binge · May 17, 2009

Or you could get a MCP355 with top and beat both the D5 Vario AND Fixed Speed.

t_ski · May 17, 2009

t_ski said:
Everyone else swears by the 355 18W with the extra top.

Binge said:
Or you could get a MCP355 with top and beat both the D5 Vario AND Fixed Speed.

That's what I said :laugh:

freaksavior · May 17, 2009

Here is my temps

Fitseries3 · May 17, 2009

mudkip said:
I'm getting tired of talking about pumps and rads all the time.

As I said before:

i sorta agree.

i7 really doesnt need water unless you are trying to run 4.4ghz+

Chicken Patty · May 17, 2009

Fitseries3 said:
i sorta agree.

i7 really doesnt need water unless you are trying to run 4.4ghz+

i dont know dude, if im getting the temps im getting on water, I would imagine even with the best air cooler.

mudkip · May 17, 2009

[Core i7] Watercooling discussion thread

here

Binge · May 17, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
i dont know dude, if im getting the temps im getting on water, I would imagine even with the best air cooler.

You know I agree, and I also agree it's a huge part about overclocking. Temperatures become a barrier at times to the electrical operation of devices. I wonder what differences in stability get to be like from air to water or if it even matters. eva2000 has done most if not all of his overclocks on AIR just using a TRUE and he reached 4.7GHz.

Most of what I do I wouldn't imagine running my i7 faster than it is because it behaves so well at 4.2GHz. The ram is at the sweet spot of 1600 MHz which allows for tight timings and great bandwidth. I saw an article that showed the benefit of running ram faster vs tighter at speeds above 1333. What I got out of it was that 1600MHz with cas 6 latency would be an optimal scenario. From what I can see there are even a few new kits available that reach 1600MHz at timings of 6-6-5-12. This is seriously a lot of improvement over such a small window of time. Back in december it would be lucky to get a 3GB kit of cas 8 1600 MHz for under $150, and I have to say even those kits are piles of stink compared to what's out there today. I'm going to do a small comparison in a second. I hope you all appreciate it

Binge · May 17, 2009

Binge said:
You know I agree, and I also agree it's a huge part about overclocking. Temperatures become a barrier at times to the electrical operation of devices. I wonder what differences in stability get to be like from air to water or if it even matters. eva2000 has done most if not all of his overclocks on AIR just using a TRUE and he reached 4.7GHz.

Most of what I do I wouldn't imagine running my i7 faster than it is because it behaves so well at 4.2GHz. The ram is at the sweet spot of 1600 MHz which allows for tight timings and great bandwidth. I saw an article that showed the benefit of running ram faster vs tighter at speeds above 1333. What I got out of it was that 1600MHz with cas 6 latency would be an optimal scenario. From what I can see there are even a few new kits available that reach 1600MHz at timings of 6-6-5-12. This is seriously a lot of improvement over such a small window of time. Back in december it would be lucky to get a 3GB kit of cas 8 1600 MHz for under $150, and I have to say even those kits are piles of stink compared to what's out there today. I'm going to do a small comparison in a second. I hope you all appreciate it

Soooo.... you're all going to laugh

Super tight timings on ram? Pshhhh.... uber high frequency? Meh.... So I chose to test a CPU benchmark and a gaming benchmark to see if there was much of a difference between ram timings and frequency and if it really made as much or more difference than the frequency of the i7 itself. Here's the results!

i7 920 @ 4.2GHz Kingston HyperX 1600MHz 6-7-6-15

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4200 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 43.65s, Average FPS: 43.12
Min FPS: 33.31 at frame 1638, Max FPS: 52.76 at frame 1560
Average Tri/Sec: 24930622, Tri/Frame: 578174
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.36s, Average FPS: 45.50
Min FPS: 33.31 at frame 1638, Max FPS: 53.60 at frame 1525
Average Tri/Sec: 26294232, Tri/Frame: 577846
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.36s, Average FPS: 45.50
Min FPS: 33.31 at frame 1638, Max FPS: 54.86 at frame 1570
Average Tri/Sec: 26403556, Tri/Frame: 580313
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:29:24 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 33.31 Max: 54.23 Avg: 45.50 ]

i7 920 @ 4.2GHz Kingston HyperX 1600MHz 8-8-8-24

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4200 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 43.41s, Average FPS: 43.35
Min FPS: 35.27 at frame 1367, Max FPS: 53.49 at frame 1565
Average Tri/Sec: 24598810, Tri/Frame: 567448
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.33
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.30s, Average FPS: 45.56
Min FPS: 35.16 at frame 1655, Max FPS: 53.59 at frame 1524
Average Tri/Sec: 26746064, Tri/Frame: 586997
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.35s, Average FPS: 45.51
Min FPS: 35.16 at frame 1655, Max FPS: 53.93 at frame 1571
Average Tri/Sec: 26130090, Tri/Frame: 574143
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.33
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:07:11 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 35.16 Max: 53.76 Avg: 45.54 ]

i7 920 @ 4.2GHz Kingston HyperX 2000MHz 8-8-8-24

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4200 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 42.89s, Average FPS: 43.88
Min FPS: 33.91 at frame 1635, Max FPS: 53.80 at frame 1553
Average Tri/Sec: 25446648, Tri/Frame: 579873
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.20s, Average FPS: 45.68
Min FPS: 33.91 at frame 1635, Max FPS: 53.80 at frame 1553
Average Tri/Sec: 26388626, Tri/Frame: 577728
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.35s, Average FPS: 45.51
Min FPS: 33.91 at frame 1635, Max FPS: 54.97 at frame 1563
Average Tri/Sec: 26367188, Tri/Frame: 579353
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:49:14 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 33.91 Max: 54.39 Avg: 45.60 ]

i7 920 @ 4.0GHz Kingston HyperX 2000MHz 8-8-8-24

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4000 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 42.77s, Average FPS: 44.00
Min FPS: 33.55 at frame 1631, Max FPS: 54.44 at frame 1548
Average Tri/Sec: 25262982, Tri/Frame: 574157
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.33
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.61s, Average FPS: 45.23
Min FPS: 33.55 at frame 1631, Max FPS: 54.69 at frame 1568
Average Tri/Sec: 26344398, Tri/Frame: 582456
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.51s, Average FPS: 45.34
Min FPS: 33.55 at frame 1631, Max FPS: 54.69 at frame 1568
Average Tri/Sec: 26135890, Tri/Frame: 576426
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:40:19 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 33.55 Max: 54.69 Avg: 45.29 ]

Video card was a GTX295 at stock settings. The only changes to the bios were to change the timing and frequency of the ram and CPU on the last test. The last test reveals that most benchmarks will be affected by CPU frequency instead of ram frequency. I am more surprised that this D0 can run at 4.2GHz with 2000Mhz ram

That alone is a bright shiny beacon of niceness that came out of this abyssmal line of testing. Why am I less enthusiastic about my 50nm Elpida HyperX ram modules? Well I think the results speak for themselves

Happy overclocking! :toast:

Fitseries3 · May 17, 2009

thats what i been demonstrating for a few months now...

expensive parts are just that.... EXPENSIVE. no added bonus for the extra money.

i bet i could easily match anyones system with my low budget parts.

System Name	My i7 Build
Processor	Intel Core i7 920 @4.2
Motherboard	EVGA CLassified E760
Cooling	[Lapped & Washer Modded] Thermalright Ultra-120 w/ 2 Ultra KAze 3000 RPM Fans
Memory	Kingston HyperX DDR3 2000Mhz 8-9-8-21 1T
Video Card(s)	Sapphire 5870 Flashed with ASUS BIOS
Storage	Patroit Torqx 128gb SSD & 2-Samsung 1Tb 72k
Display(s)	ASUS VW266H 25.5" 1200p LCD
Case	Thermaltake Armor+ Full AtX
Audio Device(s)	EVGA onboard sound
Power Supply	Thermaltake 1200W ToughPower
Software	Windows 7 Ultimate Sig Edition
Benchmark Scores	Vantage 19492 3dmark06 23450 Super Pi: 9.906s for 1M

System Name	Everchanging
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair Dark Hero
Cooling	Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer 2 420mm
Memory	2x16GB Corsair DDR4 3600 CL16
Video Card(s)	eVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 256GB, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Display(s)	2xSamsung 28" 4k HDR 144Hz
Case	Fractal Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s)	fiio K9 to Hifiman Sundara's via 4.4mm balanced cable
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime TX 850w
Mouse	Corsair Harpoon Wireless RGB
Keyboard	Corsair K70 RGB PRO
Software	Windows 11 x64

Processor	i7 920 @ 3.8 GHz + HT, 1.25v
Motherboard	Gigabyte EX58-UD5
Cooling	Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme
Memory	6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	HIS 6950 2GB
Storage	WD 640GB Black + 2x WD 1TB Green
Display(s)	30" Dell U3011 H-IPS
Case	Antec P180B
Audio Device(s)	On-Board Sound
Power Supply	Corsair 850TX
Software	Windows 7 Professional x64

System Name	My i7 Build
Processor	Intel Core i7 920 @4.2
Motherboard	EVGA CLassified E760
Cooling	[Lapped & Washer Modded] Thermalright Ultra-120 w/ 2 Ultra KAze 3000 RPM Fans
Memory	Kingston HyperX DDR3 2000Mhz 8-9-8-21 1T
Video Card(s)	Sapphire 5870 Flashed with ASUS BIOS
Storage	Patroit Torqx 128gb SSD & 2-Samsung 1Tb 72k
Display(s)	ASUS VW266H 25.5" 1200p LCD
Case	Thermaltake Armor+ Full AtX
Audio Device(s)	EVGA onboard sound
Power Supply	Thermaltake 1200W ToughPower
Software	Windows 7 Ultimate Sig Edition
Benchmark Scores	Vantage 19492 3dmark06 23450 Super Pi: 9.906s for 1M

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero
Cooling	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB // X12 Phanteks D30-120 D-RGB Fans
Memory	G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL30
Video Card(s)	ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme AIRO
Storage	Samsung Pro 980 2TB NVMe (OS and Games) // WD Black 10TB HDD (Storage)
Display(s)	SAMSUNG 34-Inch Ultrawide 75Hz (Desk Games) // SAMSUNG 49-Inch Ultrawide 144Hz (Sim Racing Rig)
Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1200, 1200W 80+ Gold, ATX 3.0
Software	Windows 11 Pro

System Name	Silent allround
Processor	i5 750 @ 3,0Ghz 1.04v / 3.4Ghz 1.11v/ 3,6Ghz 1.15v
Motherboard	Gigabyte P55-USB3
Cooling	Thermalright IFX-14 + Scythe Slip Stream 140mm @ 600RPM
Memory	2 x 4GB Samsung M378B5273DH0-CH9 @ 2000 MHz 9-10-10-27 T1
Video Card(s)	Sapphire HD 5870 Vapor-X @ 940/1270
Storage	Intel Postville 80GB SSD & Western Digital Green 2TB
Display(s)	Dell Ultrasharp U2412M
Case	Bitfenix Merc Alpha
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar D2 with Unified Drivers
Power Supply	Nexus NX-5000 R3 530W
Software	Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Benchmark Scores	Super pi 1M : 8,549s @ 4,7Ghz (Core i7 920)

System Name	My i7 Beast
Processor	Intel Core i7 6800K
Motherboard	Asus X99-A II
Cooling	Nickel-plated EK Supremacy EVO, D5 with XSPC Bayres & BIX Quad Radiator
Memory	4 x 8GB EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3200
Video Card(s)	EVGA 1080 SuperClocked
Storage	Samsung 950 Pro 256GB m.2 SSD + 480GB Sandisk storage SSD
Display(s)	Three Asus 24" VW246H LCD's
Case	Silverstone TJ07
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200
Keyboard	Corsair K95
Software	Windows 10 x64 Pro

System Name	Molly
Processor	i5 3570K
Motherboard	Z77 ASRock
Cooling	CooliT Eco
Memory	2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GTX 680
Case	Coolermaster CM690 II Advanced
Power Supply	Corsair HX-1000

System Name	Server. Gamer. Worker.
Processor	Xeon 2659 v3 / 9800x3D / m1 pro
Motherboard	Asus X99-E-10G WS / ASRock steel legend x870 / Apple
Cooling	Noctua low profile / Noctua NH-L12 / Apple
Memory	64Gb 2133 ecc ddr4/ T-force 6400 32Gbddr5/ 32GB HBLM
Video Card(s)	Evga gt 7300 / zotac 3070 / m1 pro
Storage	Samsung 970 512 Evo NVMe+3x14Tb /2Tb 990 pro + 1Tb HP 920 ex. / 1Tb
Display(s)	Headless / Acer Predator X34 / Acer X34 Non predator
Case	NZXT H630 \|Rosewill 8bay 4u server chasiss / MacBook Pro 16”
Audio Device(s)	Onboard / Onboard / Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair TX750 / Corais ax860 \| / Internal 250w
Mouse	Headless / corsair m65 / g502 proteus core

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