Conducting a little experiment, fired up my 9800gtx to see the difference in ppd on the 420 pointers. Also wanted to see if the 8800gs would pull down the ppd of the 9800 as they are in the same box. Results: 9800gtx 5259ppd, 8800gs 2903ppd. Conclusions? Edit: the gtx just jumped to 5336ppd, the 8800gs stay at or below 2900ppd.