TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

GreiverBlade · Dec 4, 2022

freeagent said:
I have some too

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i had some too, iirc 4x on a Phenom X4 9600B build on a Asus M3N78-CM in a Antec NSK380 cooled by a Scythe Grand Kama Cross Rev.B ... darn i miss that rig

out of the case testing:

alternative pic in a HAF-XB with a GeForce GTX 770 on it (and crappy stock cooler)

that rig was my madness rig overkill CPU HSF, thermalright IFX-14 and the Grand Kama Cross Rev.B

MaxiPro800 · Dec 4, 2022

You got me slightly curious - what's the MSI card in the last two photos? I figured the 770 is an Zotac AMP version, but I can't figure the MSI out - all I can figure is that it's a nVidia card as well (Radeons have a longer connector for Crossfire, while nVidias have the SLi connector much shorter, at least anything pre-RTX era)

stef · Dec 6, 2022

Just upgraded cooling on R3xx cards.
Orange one, 9800XT, runs at 36°C idle, and 43° load. This used to be hot card back in the day

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Red one is FireGL X1-128 with modded Catalyst 4.12 that turns it into 9700 Pro.

Magic Cube · Dec 6, 2022

stef said:
Just upgraded cooling on R3xx cards.
Orange one, 9800XT, runs at 36°C idle, and 43° load. This used to be hot card back in the day .
Red one is FireGL X1-128 with modded Catalyst 4.12 that turns it into 9700 Pro.

I miss those Zalman coolers. But not those later ones with awful fans(VF3000), hetasinks where good but fans where noisy and they did resonate with fan shroud. That copper one VF900CU with heatpipes is one of my favorites in third party gpu coolers. Too bad those are hard to find these days. I have only seen one in finnish auction site this year. I didn't place bid for it.

I have also been thinking: What GPU chips would VF900CU able to cool these days? Not those powerhungry cards but maybe Nvidia 16xx-series? Don't know hole distances, if these even would fit.

I hope someone in china would start, to make good third party GPU heatsinks. Even similar products to Arctic cooling GPU heatsinks.

Now if I would want new cooler for GPU. Only one I can find(in Finland) is Raijintek Morpheus. Yes it is really good cooler, but expensive and installing it for entry level card or older GPU doesn't make sense. I am still using my GTX1080 with Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo 3, because it is silent compared to original cooler and on desktop when fans should turn off Arctic's fans still run at 600RPM without any mods/apps.

stef · Dec 6, 2022

I bought several NOS on eBay (Netherlands). Best 3rd party coolers ever. Quality and craftsmanship on another level, comparing to others.

Magic Cube said:
I have also been thinking: What GPU chips would VF900CU able to cool these days? Not those powerhungry cards but maybe Nvidia 16xx-series? Don't know hole distances, if these even would fit.

I'd say HD5700 and HD7700 series would probably be last cards to fit it, anything after would be too hot.

Greenslade · Dec 6, 2022

I thought I would try the old HP PC I found earlier that year. I know that someone pointed out that some caps had given up. Anyway, it started up later on nothing, so I thought I would try the PSU that I bought this year for £4. On the HP the fans were spinning in the case but not the PSU. I thought that was it I will have to cancel my first
PC build.

I thought I would try it on my HPZ230 nothing there at all.

So I thought I would try it on the old HP PC low and behold the PSU was spinning.

So I am back on track for my first build it is a bit daunting. Out with the Hp PSU. I am not sure why the
PSU did not spin but the other fans did.

At least I know it works now.

framebuffer said:
Ah cool, I was gathering some info about the Barton-Sempron because I just got a nice little system with a Sempron 3000+, ASUS A7V600-X and a single stick of HyperX KHX3200 (non A or AK) so it should be BH-5
Guess he's stock-freq. times are ending... now

That's what I have the ASUS A7V600-X, although I only have the Athlon 2400. I looked on CPU World and was surprised to see the two were neck and neck.

Pros and Cons Summary

Athlon XP 2400+ (1.65V)		Sempron 3000+
General recommendations: None		General recommendations: None
Drawbacks: None		Drawbacks: None

I have been trying to get the Motherboard out of that old PC it does not seem to want budge seven screws have been taken out.It was also quite a job to get the CD Drive and the Floppy out ,all though the floppy did not seem to work in there.

On another subject , what is the better CPU Q9450 v Q9500 the Q9450 is always dearer,The bench mark sites put them neck and neck.

Should i so for this case rather than the other one?

Silverstone PC case

ondition
Used – good

PC case with DVD drive and 2 x case fans included. USB 3, mic and headphone ports on front. Some light scratches. No screws for Motherboard or case included.

Or this one if you if you can let me no if i should go for the other one.He has added aback fan to this.Also ten pounds and if someone can tell me the make of it.This is USB2 i want to use it for a MSI 7513 Motherboard.

Greenslade · Dec 7, 2022

I am trying to remove the motherboard from the HP PC but it won't budge

. I have taken eight screws out see photos. Surely it should come straight out after the removal of the screws.?

68Olds · Dec 7, 2022

Fiddle with that green lever on the right side of the board. It might release a removable mobo tray. Put at least one screw back into the board before you pull the tray.

Greenslade · Dec 7, 2022

Greenslade said:
I am trying to remove the motherboard from the HP PC but it won't budge . I have taken eight screws out see photos. Surely it should come straight out after the removal of the screws.?

Thanks for that I will give it a try.

Did you have a nice break? And what do you think of those two cases above? for my MSI 7513 build I have to know today which one to go for.

68Olds said:
Fiddle with that green lever on the right side of the board. It might release a removable mobo tray. Put at least one screw back into the board before you pull the tray.

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I have tried that with a couple of screw in still no good

Do i need to to take the Heatsinks out?

stinger608 · Dec 7, 2022

Greenslade said:
I have tried that with a couple of screw in still no good Do i need to to take the Heatsinks out?

No, you don't need to take the heatsinks out.

That lever is most likely a holding clip of some sort for the motherboard. Pull the 2 screws in put in, and then pull the green lever outwards away from the motherboard and see if it releases the board on the back by the lever.

Greenslade · Dec 8, 2022

stinger608 said:
No, you don't need to take the heatsinks out.

That lever is most likely a holding clip of some sort for the motherboard. Pull the 2 screws in put in, and then pull the green lever outwards away from the motherboard and see if it releases the board on the back by the lever.

PC case with DVD drive and 2 x case fans included. USB 3, mic, and headphone ports on the front. Some light scratches.
*No screws for Motherboard or case included.*
Both are £10 I got this today he found seven headers and screws.

MaxiPro800 · Dec 8, 2022

Just managed to "upgrade" my i3-540's mainboard from a H55M-S2V to a H55M-USB3.
Much fancier, kinda reminds me a 880GM-UD2H I used to have which I sold.

Oh, and soldering SMD mosfets of this scale is a massive pain in the arse if you don't have a proper soldering station. That, and I unfortunately had to do a dirty move where I had to solder the Source pins together. That's because the originals were blown up pretty bad and the only way to get them properly connected was to figure which pins shared a common trace - the Drain tab is a no brainer (that's basically half if not the whole FET casing) and it seems the Source pins share a common trace.

I sourced the new FETs from a dead ASUS P8P67 Pro Rev3.1 that had a mangled socket. as well as that one being the donor for the socket retention system on this mobo as well.

And so, the fun doesn't stop here!

Coming up next week:

- my i7-860 build finally getting a case - after a few searches, I've finally landed on a Deepcool Tesseract BF black
- probably what will be my only Fatal1ty branded board - an ASRock Z67 Pro Gen3 Fatal1ty. What's peculiar is that ASRock made holes for 775 coolers as well, so that's definitely an interesting thing to see - a stock Conroe/Kentsfield 775 cooler trying to challenge an.... i7-2600K.
- an taste of X58 - an i7 920 + a EX58-UD5 that I was told it would not POST - this is probably an easy fix - the H55M board from the post above had an slightly similar issue - corrupt main BIOS - I couldn't get it stable enough to kick the secondary in, so I had to resort to writing a BIOS using a CH341A programmer - I figure the X58 mobo will be an easy fix as well. I do have spare BIOS chips from a dead G1 Sniper 3 mobo, just in case.
- a nice Cooler Master Gemini II cooler to mount on the X58.

Ruru · Dec 9, 2022

stef said:
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Just upgraded cooling on R3xx cards.
Orange one, 9800XT, runs at 36°C idle, and 43° load. This used to be hot card back in the day .
Red one is FireGL X1-128 with modded Catalyst 4.12 that turns it into 9700 Pro.

Asus 9800 XT? I don't recall any other having an orange PCB.

RyzenMaster.sys · Dec 9, 2022

Bought another recyclers lot, this time of LGA 1366 Xeon CPUs and 2 1356 CPUs.

Good range here from low clocked 45nm quads to several 32nm X56xx 6 cores. I haven't messed with my x58 systems for awhile.

I will be mostly interested in the W35xx CPUs in this lot, which include 2 W3565s. Most interested in them to see how well they overclock being higher multiplier 32nm quad cores.

I have experience ocing a whole batch of e5620s and they really did not like to clock high, even with an aio stuck in ice water.

Ruru · Dec 9, 2022

Got a 4K monitor yesterday and just installed a brand new RX 6700 XT, and the first thing to do is to watch Phil's new video. In 4K of course. :toast:

MaxiPro800 · Dec 9, 2022

Today on "Things that shouldn't work but they strangely do"...

Yes. That is a Conroe/Kentsfield era 775 cooler (or even as old as the 775 Pentium 4 days, judging by the older Intel logo) sitting on a i7-2600k.

Surprisingly, idle temps hovered in the mid 40s. Haven't load tested it but I can already tell this is gonna be a lot of fun, hopefully.

ASRock and their genius idea to carry the 775 hole spacing as far as 1155 (and maybe Haswell 1151 too? Anyone w/ a Haswell 1151 ASRock, let me know if that is true) and on a "gaming" board no less.

Greenslade · Dec 9, 2022

Kissamies said:
Got a 4K monitor yesterday and just installed a brand new RX 6700 XT, and the first thing to do is to watch Phil's new video. In 4K of course.

Good old Phil

what would we do without him.

Meanwhile our other fav you tuber Clint, gets into the Christmas Sprit

Jacky_BEL · Dec 9, 2022

Greenslade said:
I am trying to remove the motherboard from the HP PC but it won't budge . I have taken eight screws out see photos. Surely it should come straight out after the removal of the screws.?

Looking at the image on the tray tab i would suggest to pinch the tabs together and slide the tray in the direction of the arrow.

Ruru · Dec 9, 2022

Greenslade said:
Good old Phil what would we do without him.Meanwhile our other fav you tuber Clint, gets into the Christmas Sprit

Clint is without a doubt one of the first retrotuber I started watching. Luckily these days youtube is full of retro hobbyists

stinger608 · Dec 9, 2022

Jacky_BEL said:
Looking at the image on the tray tab i would suggest to pinch the tabs together and slide the tray in the direction of the arrow.

Ahhh, yes, I missed the pinching the tabs together on that for @Greenslade :respect:

Good catch man!!!!!!

Then the locking mechanism slides out of the way to allow for the motherboard removal.

Ruru · Dec 9, 2022

Maybe the most popular (and with a good reason) GTX 970. Back when Nvidia could offer incredible price/performance for anyone. Cleaned it as I'll give it to my brothers to replace their crappy RX 460.

80251 · Dec 9, 2022

Wasn't the GTX 970 the one that had 4 GiB of VRAM but only 3.5 GiB that could be addressed at full speed?

lexluthermiester · Dec 10, 2022

80251 said:
Wasn't the GTX 970 the one that had 4 GiB of VRAM but only 3.5 GiB that could be addressed at full speed?

Yup. NVidia was sued over it and settled because they knew they would lose. NVidia will never be pulling any of those types of shenanigans again.

stef · Dec 10, 2022

Kissamies said:
Got a 4K monitor yesterday and just installed a brand new RX 6700 XT, and the first thing to do is to watch Phil's new video. In 4K of course.

Great video from Phil. And great card with few tricks up it's sleeve: