Upgrade CPU or GPU?

[Durvelle27]

He already upgraded the gpu and now wants more cpu power.

I didn’t even see that

in that case the 5600X value can’t be beaten

the IPC uplift on Zen3 is amazing and it offers the best bang for buck matching last gens 3800X in heavy loads and completely beating them in single threaded loads

 

[Splinterdog]

5600X it is then, especially having just read the review by W1zzard.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Review

Six Zen 3 cores beating eight Zen 2 Cores? That's exactly what's happening with the Ryzen 5 5600X. AMD's massive IPC gain helped it overcome a two-core deficitm, even in productivity tests. The Ryzen 5 5600X redefines what you really need for a high-end gaming PC.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Durvelle27]

5600X it is then, especially having just read the review by W1zzard.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Review

Six Zen 3 cores beating eight Zen 2 Cores? That's exactly what's happening with the Ryzen 5 5600X. AMD's massive IPC gain helped it overcome a two-core deficitm, even in productivity tests. The Ryzen 5 5600X redefines what you really need for a high-end gaming PC.

www.techpowerup.com

The 5600X is a well rounded CPU

You won’t be disappointed. And the 12 Threads will last you awhile

 

[Selaya]

[ ... ]The 5800X really only makes sense if you can't afford the extra 100USD for the 5900X.
[ ... ]

The 5800X doesnt make any sense at all (unless they drop its price by like, $100 which isn't happening) - I would only ever consider it if you cannot obtain any other SKU, which is probably actually a thing these days.

Anyways; this is far too late but - you should've pooled your money for a 3080/6800 instead of upping your CPU - the 5600X will not be that significant for MT loads (rendering videos), while you will notice little to nothing on the gaming front because your 5700XT isn't strong enough to get bottlenecked by the CPU, for the most parts. I mean, depends obviously on whether you're into high fps gaming or not - if you plan on 4K I'd honestly have recommended a 2600 with a 3080 even for a brand new build - you're not going to get CPU bottlenecked anytime soon and the 5600X is seriously overpriced these days.
But yeah, you know what they say about opinions ...

 

[Splinterdog]

The 5800X doesnt make any sense at all (unless they drop its price by like, $100 which isn't happening) - I would only ever consider it if you cannot obtain any other SKU, which is probably actually a thing these days.

Anyways; this is far too late but - you should've pooled your money for a 3080/6800 instead of upping your CPU - the 5600X will not be that significant for MT loads (rendering videos), while you will notice little to nothing on the gaming front because your 5700XT isn't strong enough to get bottlenecked by the CPU, for the most parts. I mean, depends obviously on whether you're into high fps gaming or not - if you plan on 4K I'd honestly have recommended a 2600 with a 3080 even for a brand new build - you're not going to get CPU bottlenecked anytime soon and the 5600X is seriously overpriced these days.
But yeah, you know what they say about opinions ...

The 3080 is way out of my price range and 6800 hasn't even arrived this far south yet, both of which are at/would be at premium prices. Price gouging is a national sport here in Argentina and has been for decades.
The 5700XT upgrade (from RX580) is one of the most significant GPU upgrades I've made in a long time and I'm not talking about a gazillion benchmarks either, but real-time gaming from my own perspective which is what really counts at the end of the day.
I don't need to upgrade the 2600X, but I want to and down here the 5600X is half the price of a 3900X, it's current gen and will serve me well for at least the next 2-3 years. And I don't need to change any other hardware. Thanks to AMD for clearing that path for us.
And yes, we all have an opinion, so thanks for yours!

 

[Shou Miko]

I used RX 590, 5700 XT and now a RX 6800 and I can clearly at 4K feel the difference.

I do still own my Sapphire Nitro+ RX 590 Special Edition, I love the card, how quiet it is and how it looks just a bit sad about the performance.

I had a Sapphire PULSE RX 5700 XT I traded it together with my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon-AC a Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVME plus some cash for a AMD Radeon RX 6800 Reference card (PowerColor branded box, bios is stock AMD).

I saw a good performance boost going from my RX 590 to the RX 5700 XT in 4K and also going to the RX 6800 I was lucky because ProShop only got like 200 RX 6800 reference cards and 50 RX 6800 XT cards and no one really want to sell does or trade them without you getting ripped off.

So I decided to go with the RX 6800 for now just wish it was Sapphire branded like my other AMD cards because I am a Sapphire fan but in 2020 with the shortage I take what I can get

If anyone check my signature they can see my max oc on my RX 6800 where it's stable for everything.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm now thinking more towards the 5000 series Ryzen and for the price, the 5600X is looking good. Although I may be able to stretch a little further.

I'm holding out for the sensibly-priced 5700X. The 5800X's 8C/16T with a single monolithic CCX and all 32MB of L3 shared makes sense for the best Zen3 has to offer. The 5900X still relies on accurate thread scheduling to the correct cores die and I don't trust devs or Microsoft to do that job properly, so unless you need more than 8 cores, stick to single-die models.

The 5600X is only 6 physical cores. I'm not sure that's worth big money in 2020, it was certainly fine in 2017 but I think 6 cores is firmly in lower-budget territory now, especially with consoles having 8 cores each, it's likely to be the optimal core count for gaming before this generation of consoles is done.

 

[Durvelle27]

The 3080 is way out of my price range and 6800 hasn't even arrived this far south yet, both of which are at/would be at premium prices. Price gouging is a national sport here in Argentina and has been for decades.
The 5700XT upgrade (from RX580) is one of the most significant GPU upgrades I've made in a long time and I'm not talking about a gazillion benchmarks either, but real-time gaming from my own perspective which is what really counts at the end of the day.
I don't need to upgrade the 2600X, but I want to and down here the 5600X is half the price of a 3900X, it's current gen and will serve me well for at least the next 2-3 years. And I don't need to change any other hardware. Thanks to AMD for clearing that path for us.
And yes, we all have an opinion, so thanks for yours!

1440p and under that 5700XT and 5600X will handle games at least for a few more years with no issues

I'm holding out for the sensibly-priced 5700X. The 5800X's 8C/16T with a single monolithic CCX and all 32MB of L3 shared makes sense for the best Zen3 has to offer. The 5900X still relies on accurate thread scheduling to the correct cores die and I don't trust devs or Microsoft to do that job properly, so unless you need more than 8 cores, stick to single-die models.

The 5600X is only 6 physical cores. I'm not sure that's worth big money in 2020, it was certainly fine in 2017 but I think 6 cores is firmly in lower-budget territory now, especially with consoles having 8 cores each, it's likely to be the optimal core count for gaming before this generation of consoles is done.

I don’t think there will be 5700X maybe a 5700 but not likely a 5700X

and if we look at games and the market performance as a whole the 6 core parts are actually the best in the segment and even years from now 6 cores will still be viable considering how very few games can even fully tax 6 core or higher CPUs but even than the 5600X has the advantage of having 12 Threads which will give optimum performance in heavy threaded apps

 

[HD64G]

I used RX 590, 5700 XT and now a RX 6800 and I can clearly at 4K feel the difference.

I do still own my Sapphire Nitro+ RX 590 Special Edition, I love the card, how quiet it is and how it looks just a bit sad about the performance.

I had a Sapphire PULSE RX 5700 XT I traded it together with my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon-AC a Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVME plus some cash for a AMD Radeon RX 6800 Reference card (PowerColor branded box, bios is stock AMD).

I saw a good performance boost going from my RX 590 to the RX 5700 XT in 4K and also going to the RX 6800 I was lucky because ProShop only got like 200 RX 6800 reference cards and 50 RX 6800 XT cards and no one really want to sell does or trade them without you getting ripped off.

So I decided to go with the RX 6800 for now just wish it was Sapphire branded like my other AMD cards because I am a Sapphire fan but in 2020 with the shortage I take what I can get

If anyone check my signature they can see my max oc on my RX 6800 where it's stable for everything.

Ref 6800(XT) have great coolers, looks and are all made well. AIB custom ones have risk if not the best and most expensive models. So, this time around, 6800(XT) are the best in reliability, cooling and vfm if bought close to MSRP.

 

[Shou Miko]

Ref 6800(XT) have great cooler, looks and are all made well. AIB custom ones have risk if not the best and most expensive models. So, this time around, 6800(XT) are the best in relaibility, cooling and vfm if bought close to MSRP.

The design of the RX 6800/6800XT/6900XT are the same even so that AMD have enlarged the cooler for the RX 6800XT and 6900XT it still got the same look.

 

[Splinterdog]

I put the ROG RX580 into my other other gaming rig, an FX8350 in which they both fit very well and I even managed to get Aura working, which is a miracle in itself, due to the buggy nature of said program.
I now have a spare MSI GTX960 4GB.
Something I don't understand though is when people talk of gaming at 1440p or 4k. I mainly game at 1080p and when I feel the GPU can take it I use VSR. Is that what people are referring to when talk about these resolutions or the native resolution of the monitor?

 

[milewski1015]

I put the ROG RX580 into my other other gaming rig, an FX8350 in which they both fit very well

What sort of performance does this combo get you? I've got an 8350 hanging around somewhere...

Is that what people are referring to when talk about these resolutions or the native resolution of the monitor?

I have a 1440p monitor so I'm talking native resolution

 

[davidm71]

Unless your going to buy a used gpu I would recommend a cpu upgrade as you can't even find any gpus due to shortages and price gauging thats going on. For example take Cyberpunk 2077. Very cpu intensive game that scales greatly with a better processor.

 

[Zach_01]

What sort of performance does this combo get you? I've got an 8350 hanging around somewhere...

My previous system was FX8370 with RX580 at the end of its time. On most games on 1080p it’s ok but at some it’s struggling. Mostly on the lows 1% and 0.1%. Going from FX8370+RX580 to the R5 3600+RX580 had improve things to those lows by a lot. To the avgs FPS there was an improvement but nothing to write about.

 

[Splinterdog]

What sort of performance does this combo get you? I've got an 8350 hanging around somewhere...

Pretty good in Shadow of The Tomb Raider. Certainly better than with the GTX 960 and I never had any complaints on the FX8350 as it ran almost everything until the newer games began to make it creak a little.

 

[Splinterdog]

In Cyberpunk it's a different matter with the FX8350/RX580 combo. Medium setting is about as high as I can go, without going below 45-50 fps and it's definitely playable.

 

[nuggdoctor]

save for a year until the good cpu's are available and snag a 5950x. thats what im waiting for to ditch my delidded 8700k that runs at 5.1ghz.