Upgrade suggestions

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

I'm trying to decide which GPU to upgrade to from my lowly 9600gt, and came here for some input.

I'm thinking either, ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX ...

or

XFX GX260XADJC GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit DDR3 ...

Or, does anyone have a recommendation that is somewhere in the 200$ price range?

Thank you, gentlemons

GENTLEMEN · Sep 5, 2010

GTX460, though your processor might bottleneck and I don't know what brand of PSU you use.

erocker · Sep 5, 2010

The 460 without a doubt. It's the better card.

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

Alright, I'll do the 460. Does anyone have a recomendation for a specific model of 460?

I have a 580w PSU and AMD x2 5000+

erocker · Sep 5, 2010

ThePoliceAreOutside said:
Alright, I'll do the 460. Does anyone have a recomendation for a specific model of 460?

The cheapest one possible!

I'm cheap.

Delta6326 · Sep 5, 2010

The best 460 by far its silent sat 100% fan gigabyte 460's

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

Thank you everyone! Ordering it now.

Delta6326 · Sep 5, 2010

ThePoliceAreOutside said:
Thank you everyone! Ordering it now.

Which did you choose? i think with the 460 really comes down to warranty's and heatsinks they all seem to have equal strength

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

Delta6326 said:
Which did you choose? i think with the 460 really comes down to warranty's and heatsinks they all seem to have equal strength

I decided to go with GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-768I GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 76...

Delta6326 · Sep 5, 2010

that will be a nice card

Dio · Sep 5, 2010

GENTLEMEN said:
GTX460, though your processor might bottleneck and I don't know what brand of PSU you use.

This, basically nailed what I was going to say, that processor will be a burden to that 460, def might want to look into upgrading it soon... I cannot emphasize enough the importance of proper CPU power.

de.das.dude · Sep 5, 2010

Dude, get a better CPU immediately!!! till then you might as well run off on the 9600GT.

MT Alex · Sep 5, 2010

Cheap cpu and mobo when you hit the bottle neck.:
[FS] AM3 PARTOUT - 720BE, DDR3 1600, ATI 5770, and...

I don't know the guy, but I've been keeping an eye on this FS thread, because it's good stuff, and cheap for a tripple core that unlocks to four and runs at 3.4.

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

Will the bottleneck really be that bad?

de.das.dude · Sep 5, 2010

yup. if he gets the 460

Dent1 · Sep 5, 2010

ThePoliceAreOutside said:
Will the bottleneck really be that bad?

Unfortunately yes.

That isnt to say games will not play, they will but you will not experience the true performance which the GTX460 or GTX260 has to offer.

I would only buy one of those GPUs if you are planning on upgrading the CPU at the same time or in the very short distant future, otherwise you'd be better off with a $99 GTS 250.

MSI N250GTS Twin Frozr GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-b...

SPARKLE SXS250512D3L-NM GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-...

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

Dent1 said:
Unfortunately yes.

That isnt to say games will not play, they will but you will not experience the true performance which the GTX460 or GTX260 has to offer.

I would only buy one of those GPUs if you are planning on upgrading the CPU at the same time or in the very short distant future, otherwise you'd be better off with a $99 GTS 250.

MSI N250GTS Twin Frozr GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-b...

SPARKLE SXS250512D3L-NM GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-...

Ah, sad face. Thank you for the recomendations, although I was really hoping for a solid performance gain I don't have the funds for both a cpu/gpu upgrade :/ What do you think the performance gain would be from the 9600GT to the gts 250?

{JNT}Raptor · Sep 5, 2010

At Newegg $60 buys you an AM2 5600 running at 2.9....OC to 3.2-3.3 and that bottleneck would be considerably less....come here and let us help you put a mild OC on it and your gaming enjoyment will be higher.

Just a thought.

Hope it helps.

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

{JNT}Raptor said:
At Newegg $60 buys you an AM2 5600 running at 2.9....OC to 3.2-3.3 and that bottleneck would be considerably less....come here and let us help you put a mild OC on it and your gaming enjoyment will be higher.

Just a thought.

Hope it helps.

As sad as it sounds, I unforunately don't even have an extra 60$ hehe. However, I have a 10% OC on my amdx2 5000+ which is about 2.9. How do you think this would affect the bottleneck?

TeXBill · Sep 5, 2010

Not sure how much, but it will affect it some. What res. are you running your games at?
I got the Gigabyte 1gb version and love it but it's with an AMD 1055T setup.

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 5, 2010

I'm at 1440x900

Dent1 · Sep 5, 2010

ThePoliceAreOutside said:
What do you think the performance gain would be from the 9600GT to the gts 250?

The GTS 250 is basically a tweaked 9800GTX+ with a 55nm die shrink. According to the TPU review its about 30% faster.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Galaxy/GeForce_GTS_250_1_GB/images/perfrel.gif

ThePoliceAreOutside said:
As sad as it sounds, I unforunately don't even have an extra 60$ hehe. However, I have a 10% OC on my amdx2 5000+ which is about 2.9. How do you think this would affect the bottleneck?

Any overclock will help, but TBH you'd still be bottlenecked.

I think you should stick with your 9600GT until you're about to afford a new CPU + mobo.

Sir_Real · Sep 6, 2010

You have put in your specs your mobo has SLi chipset is that just hybrid or do you have 2 pci-e slots. If your mobo has a second pci-e slot why not use it? Get another 9600gt

ThePoliceAreOutside · Sep 10, 2010

Lil update, I got some extra cash and decided to look for CPUs.

I decided on

AMD Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition Kuma 2.8GHz 2 x 5...

and

GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-768I GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 76...

I thought I'd check in with you guys before I made an order.

Soooo, feedback?

Dent1 · Sep 10, 2010

ThePoliceAreOutside said:
Lil update, I got some extra cash and decided to look for CPUs.

I decided on

AMD Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition Kuma 2.8GHz 2 x 5...

Why? You'd still be bottlenecking the GTX460. The 7850 Kuma is only a side-grade from your 5000+ X2 not a upgrade.

The minimum you should aim for is the Athlon II X3.

Maybe the Athlon II X2, but even that is a bit dodgy.

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache...

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach...

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Ca...

Also you really need more than 2 GBs of ram, otherwise you're going to struggle.

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