Upgrading my RIG. First time going into INTEL. Need help.

[Greenmousa]

So yeah. It's happening. I gotta take off my red shirt and go baby blue this time around. AMD served me well for so many years (every computer i've ever built since my Pentium 4 was RED)

I was planning on upgrading my Video Card, going for a RX480 or 1060GTX since i play only on 1080p at 60fps, so more than that is just overkill and overbudget.

Thing is, my 8320, overclocked and all will bottleneck the fuck out of my new VGA, so it's time to upgrade.

My wife needs a PC for audio editting, so i'm re-rigging my old 8320 for her, and upgrading for myself. Heh! Sucker!

The reason i decided to go with Intel this time around is that there's no good AMD option that i can see right now to stay with my current motherboard, which is great and all but it's getting old faster than i expected i must say.

Can you guys prove me wrong? Is there a valid AMD option right now? I plan on playing mostly BF1, Overwatch, Dota2, and whatever the hell triple A thingie comes out. I must say during the BF1 Beta my current rig held it's ground magnificently letting me play confortably at 60fps with medium-high settings.

IF NOT, i'm planning on getting an i5-6600k or 6400.

I do need help in the motherboard part, i have no freaking idea on that subject when it comes to intel.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

 

[Kanan]

I see two options here:

Option a)
Wait for amd zen (early/Jan 2017) or stay with current system - the 8320 with oc isn't bad.

Option b)
I5 6600k and overclocks with a z170 board. Ddr4 2800+ 16gb and a suitable cooler. If you take the i5 6400 the upgrade is much smaller compared to the fx 8320 - so better take the 6600k.

 

[Greenmousa]

I won't wait for Zen, i've been waiting for AMD's "OH THIS IS IT MAN, THIS IS IT!! GROUNDBREAKING SHIT RIGHT HERE" and then nothing happened, this entire build that i'm currently using i would call it "MANTLE HYPE" Remember Mantle? Yeah.

I see what you mean. Do you think a 6600k would need overclock in order to not bottleneck the vga?

 

[alucasa]

4ghz, at least, yeah.

 

[Kanan]

I won't wait for Zen, i've been waiting for AMD's "OH THIS IS IT MAN, THIS IS IT!! GROUNDBREAKING SHIT RIGHT HERE" and then nothing happened, this entire build that i'm currently using i would call it "MANTLE HYPE" Remember Mantle? Yeah.

I see what you mean. Do you think a 6600k would need overclock in order to not bottleneck the vga?

No but you'd have much more cpu performance for the future or heavy games (bf1) today.

The new i5s at any clock do certainly not bottleneck a medium gpu like 1060 or rx480.

 

[Greenmousa]

Should i jump straight for an i7 then? Man, this is getting expensive fast.

 

[Kanan]

Should i jump straight for an i7 then? Man, this is getting expensive fast.

If you have the money for the 6700k yes. But I'd rather take a 6800k on a x99 system then. Few bucks more but a lot more performance.

 

[Ebo]

First I would OC the system that you allready have, and buy a new GFX. Then I would see how that works before throwing money after a whole new system.

 

[alucasa]

Well, the guy needs to give his significant other a rig. So, might as well get himself a new one.

 

[slozomby]

the 6600k overclocks to 4ghz easily. its more than enough for a 1060. is the 6700k faster. yup. will you notice it at 1080p. nope

if you're going to spend more money. stay with the 6600k and upgrade to a 1070 rather than jump to an 6700k.

 

[Toothless]

How are you guys saying a 6600k will bottleneck a 1060. That's not the case at all.

A stock 6600k will be just fine for even a 1070.

 

[Kanan]

I'm just not sure if the 6700k is really worth it. I like 6 cores way more because it's only a tad more expensive.

Also yeah maybe the money is better spent on a gtx 1070 compared to a better cpu than 6600k.

I'd say get a 6600k with oc and a gtx1070. Evga or Msi.

 

[peche]

come on people ... read the 1st post, OP is gonna bring the old board + cpu + ram to this wife,
will take a full rig for him... come on read and then advise...

@Greenmousa , how much money do you have for the upgrade? which parts do you exactly want to upgrade? like a full rig??

Regards,

 

[slozomby]

oh and about the motherboard. theres gunna be a lot that can be recommended. depending on features and pricepoint required.

 

[TheHunter]

Get at least i7 6700(k) if you plan to stay longer with this new cpu.

6600K is ok and all, but 4threads is 4..

 

[qubit]

I won't wait for Zen, i've been waiting for AMD's "OH THIS IS IT MAN, THIS IS IT!! GROUNDBREAKING SHIT RIGHT HERE" and then nothing happened, this entire build that i'm currently using i would call it "MANTLE HYPE" Remember Mantle? Yeah.

I see what you mean. Do you think a 6600k would need overclock in order to not bottleneck the vga?

Yup, hype and no substance. Let AMD prove themselves to us first. It's not up to us to have faith and then be constantly disappointed when they don't deliver.

I'd say wait for Skylake to release then consider your options, it won't be too long now. I would invariably recommend the 7700K paired with an enthusiast motherboard and at least 16GB RAM.

 

[peche]

Get at least i7 6700(k) if you plan to stay longer with this new cpu.

6600K is ok and all, but 4threads is 4..

4 threads are plenty for tasking, gaming and also design sir... mostly on PC,

Regards,

 

[slozomby]

4 threads are plenty for tasking, gaming and also design sir... mostly on PC,

Regards,

especially when you consider the bulk of the games run primarily on 1 core.

 

[Greenmousa]

Wow so many replies, thank you guys, i just got home from work, let me read all and i'll start quote-responding, thanks in advance.

 

[qubit]

especially when you consider the bulk of the games run primarily on 1 core.

That's a bit misleading. While many do, the triple A games tend to use 2-4 cores and performance will suffer if they are not given the number of cores that they need. Indeed they may not run at all sometimes. Therefore, go for a true quad core every time to ensure this isn't a problem. 4 cores + hyperthreading can help with running the PC smoothly and in certain apps, but not so much in games.

 

[Durvelle27]

especially when you consider the bulk of the games run primarily on 1 core.

What rock you live under

No current triple A game runs only a single core

Hell alot of games fail to load on dual cores let alone single

 

[eidairaman1]

Bottleneck, lmfao

 

[Greenmousa]

First I would OC the system that you allready have, and buy a new GFX. Then I would see how that works before throwing money after a whole new system.

Thanks bro, but that won't do, my wife do need a new computer, so no, i won't keep OCing this one, that is already OC'ed by the way.

How are you guys saying a 6600k will bottleneck a 1060. That's not the case at all.

A stock 6600k will be just fine for even a 1070.

THIS. I thought that a 6600k wouldn't bottleneck a 1070, let alone a 1060 or 480, i'm starting to really think that people exaggerate way too much on what bottlenecks what. I mean, my 8320 is for sure a huge bottleneck, i've seen footage of GTA V stuttering at 40fps with a 1070 on an 8320, but, a 6600k feels like such a huge upgrade that i would be really concerned if that also bottlenecks. If that's the cas then i7's are the only way to go, and i kinda refuse to believe that.

 

[Kanan]

Nobody said that, he was talking bullshit. Just one person said, that 6500 is a bottleneck compared to 6600K, that's it. I then clarified that it's not - not for the 1060 or 480 anyway. For the 1070 maybe. Depends, but I think yes.

FX 8320 with high OC (4500+) is a bottleneck for 1070 only - that's it. I'm not even talking about that CPU without OC - it's just slow.

 

[Greenmousa]

come on people ... read the 1st post, OP is gonna bring the old board + cpu + ram to this wife,
will take a full rig for him... come on read and then advise...

@Greenmousa , how much money do you have for the upgrade? which parts do you exactly want to upgrade? like a full rig??

Regards,

Thanks man. Yeah, so she would get my MOBO-CPU (without the cooler i think...if i can fit it into the i5, i gotta check incompatibilities , if not well, that lucky bastard will get it with cooler and all) and maybe a discrete VGA without 6 pins or anything like that, she doesn't need it, just to watch videos and the ocasional photoshop. My RAMs and that's it. PSU stays here and my case stays so does my hard drive, i know i should be getting some SSD but here in Argentina they're still quite expensive.

About the budget that's a whole other thing, let me give you a quick example of pricings here.

GTX 1060 6GB MSI - $7300 = uS$ 448

...

YEP. I know.

So with the budget you guys usually take as Enthusiast here you get somewhere between medium standards.

So i'm willing to get a 1060 and maybe some form of Intel i5 + Motherboard+ RAMS and a discrete GPU for my wife, add to that a new hard drive and optical drive, PSU wise, she'll be using the one that comes with the tower kit, i don't think i'll need a dedicated 80 plus nothing PSU.

That might be in the range of $16.000, something like us$1067

It hurts to write that kind of stuff down when i look at the prices in the states.

Nobody said that, he was talking bullshit. Just one person said, that 6500 is a bottleneck compared to 6600K, that's it. I then clarified that it's not - not for the 1060 or 480 anyway. For the 1070 maybe. Depends, but I think yes.

FX 8320 with high OC (4500+) is a bottleneck for 1070 only - that's it. I'm not even talking about that CPU without OC - it's just slow.

I know, it's not just you, i've been reading stuff like that all day long, that's what i'm saying, it's like people are really hooked on this everything bottlenecks thing.