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AMD continues to sell about 2 CPUs for every Intel CPU @ mindfactory.de June 2022 : Amd (reddit.com)

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This is to track the current market share in the direct sales. I expect this autumn to be quite interesting - there are good indications that Intel may somewhat return to better competitiveness.
It all depends on AMD's tactics, Zen 4 performance and Zen 4 availability and pricing.
 
For mundane tasks, Apple's M-series SoCs excel in the performance-per-watt metric. It's also apparently excellent for content creators.

The Arm processor in my RPi4 runs Libreelec/Kodi well. I boot Raspian Linux twice a year to check for firmware updates but I don't use this device for general computing since Linux as a desktop OS is an abject failure.

I have a couple of Intel CPUs (notebook PC, Mac mini 2018) and a couple of AMD Ryzen CPUs (including the computer I frequently respond on and my primary gaming rig). This post happened to be composed on my Mac mini since I am on it doing something else.

They all have their places. Use the right tool for the right task.

As an indirect shareholder of AAPL, INTC, AMD, NVDA, and other technology firms I have a vested interest in seeing all of these companies enjoy success.

I haven't purchased a CPU in over a year and I have no plans to purchase another one in the immediate future as my computing needs are well met right now. At some point I will upgrade my Mac mini; that wouldn't figure in the mindfactory.de survey though.

It is not clear how accurately the mindfactory.de reflects CPU purchases throughout the global market and whether or not sales of prebuilt PCs mirror what is listed above. My guess is no to both counts. Germany is the world's fourth largest economy by GDP (and Europe's largest) but trails the USA, China, and Japan.

For sure, the mindfactory.de survey does not track CPU penetration in the huge datacenter category so this really can't be used to predict long-term outlook for either company.
 
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Leaving ARM out of it, it looks like AMD may be in a somewhat better position for the next couple of generations. They get to launch a new socket with long-term support at the same time Intel's socket goes EOL, and AM5 users will pay less early adopter prices for DDR5. Also, they don't use hybrid architecture, so people can still use W10 until they are comfortable with W11. Also, I am not convinced about Intel's foundry capabilities compared to TSMC and others...

This is over and above my feelings about business ethics that make me prefer AMD, but that is a story for somewhere else.
 
less power draw similar performance to team blue cooler temps cheaper whats not to like?
 
I personally prefer AMD, but I also own a i5 2400 chip and a Xeon 1240V2 system. AMD was the first computer I could overclock and really mess about with. And was also a big jump in performance for me too.

As for who has sold the most, in light of the amount of watt to frames you get, I'm not surprised AMD has sold a great deal more than Intel. Also AMD's prices at the high end are far more reasonable.
 
Kinda hard to answer for most, I prefer AMD's ATM tbh, however I have not owned a 12th gen part so wouldn't discredit it based on experience I don't have.

Based on my perspective the answer might be simple to make but it surely is not important to anyone else though.
 
But....the graph about the processor brand in new build systems would be 100% Intel/0% AMD.
The vast majority of users has a 1000/2000/3000 ryzen in their systems, so it's normal for them to just upgrade to a 5000/3D rather than jump to Intel.

Other fact is that most users upgraded their cpu/mobo the last 2-3 years because of the gpu prices....so it's normal most of them being ryzen based systems.
 
For me it was originally a question of price, but then as performance improved dramatically with the introduction of Ryzen, we got the best of both worlds. Over the last nine months I've built about a dozen machines for customers and 90% have been Ryzen based.
Down here, Intel is very expensive, but I'd have no qualms switching if the price was right.
 
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What systems do you own? AMD or Intel (or maybe both)?

I know alot of people have switched from Intel to AMD since AMD ZEN. Curious how many TPU users are rocking AMD or Intel in 2022 (maybe both if you have more than one system). Note: This is not a thread to argue about who you think is "better" or anything like that.
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I don't though...
 
Dang, that's a hard question to answer definitively. If one uses my purchase history as deciding factor, Core wins hands down. I started my DIY career on AMD with K6-2, and stayed there through Athlon 64, but by the next upgrade it was Core 2 vs. Bulldozer, and that was a pretty easy question to answer for me. so I went from 1st to 6th gen Core, then 9th-10th-11th in pretty short order. Not because Core was that awesome, but because Zen had gotten good, causing Intel chip prices to drop. I have access to Micro Center, and they basically firesale previous-gen Intel procs when the new ones come out. ~USD200 for a prior-gen x700K chip is hard to pass up. AMD finally got my attention well and truly back with Zen 3, but with the good stuff starting at $300, I couldn't make myself take that particular plunge (without a use for another entirely new platform, anyway). But then Alder Lake pushed Z3 pricing down, and 5600[G,X] processors fell below that magic $200 mark. So I got one. And it's... fine? I'm not sure what kind of revelation I was expecting, seeing that every* test and benchmark had Team Blue and Team Red basically neck and neck dollar-for-dollar.

So, long winded way of saying... no preference?

*No, I did not really read every test and benchmark
 
Users still prefer AMD processors in Germany
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Fixed that for you.... ;)
 
Whatever it's cheaper for the same performance. Heat, power draw and the mobo prices are to be considered too.

In the range i shop it mostly comes down to price of cpu+mobo. Heat, power draw is not an issue.
 
I am not loyal to either brand, the one with the most bang for my buck wins my money. I have had many Intel and AMD systems over the years.. but have spent most of my time with Intel..
 
As AMD is outselling Intel 2-1, doesn't that mean that they're twice as good?

j/k
 
I prefer AMD because of the flexibility it provides. As someone that sells systems as a hobby I get way more options when building a PC. The 10400F is the only modern CPU I have used and it is a great chip that is about a 3600 (My own tests) in performance and Gaming is a non issue between the 2 either but when that user wanted to upgrade he had to get a new MB. Now that 5000 series can easily be applied to even a B350 MB it makes it really sweet. The thing is they are falling in price (like they should). I returned my 5800X3d as it does not compare to the 5950x but when it falls to around $450-500 Canadian I will be buying one. I really want to see what kind of performance the 6500XT at 3 GHZ basically can do with V-cache to overcome the Vram buffer illusion. Just the fact that I could do that or use my 5600G with my B450 board and still have a NVME RAID 0 drive for video editing or Direct Storage is very nice. I do miss Threadripper though.
 
The most interesting thing about that graph is how both companies have seen a consistent decline from January onwards. I foresee that Raptor Lake/Zen 4 will not see the kind of sales that Zen 3 and Alder Lake did. I can also see GPU sales declining even after the next gen launches.
 
Had both, previously had AMD, was gifted the 12700k and z690 so did not turn it down.

But 80/20 in AMD favour, explains a lot for me tbh.
 
qubit said:
As AMD is outselling Intel 2-1, doesn't that mean that they're twice as good?

j/k
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best comment of the thread :laugh:

as for me, well yeah i prefer AMD right now, but i had an equal share of both team CPU
albeit a shaky start Ryzen turned out to be a ... mmhh, yeah phoenix should be an adequate term

Intel, well, to me it seems they turned to childish PR, "MOAR WATTZ IZ BETTER!" "real life matter (disclaimer: in a perfectly controlled test environment and with a chiller)" their price are still inadequate even tho they are challenged by AMD and i do not like one bit their hybrid nonsense, it's personal but i think that kind of architecture would be for tablets/ultra portable only

Tigger said:
was gifted the 12700k and z690 so did not turn it down.
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ahah the opposite of me, since i was gifted a R5 3600 :) (which still run mighty fine albeit not being a 5XXX series, oh well, i can still probably upgrade to a 5700X later, given the price of it)
 
GreiverBlade said:
best comment of the thread :laugh:

as for me, well yeah i prefer AMD right now, but i had an equal share of both team CPU
albeit a shaky start Ryzen turned out to be a ... mmhh, yeah phoenix should be an adequate term

Intel, well, to me it seems they turned to childish PR, "MOAR WATTZ IZ BETTER!" "real life matter (disclaimer: in a perfectly controlled test environment and with a chiller)" their price are still inadequate even tho they are challenged by AMD and i do not like one bit their hybrid nonsense, it's personal but i think that kind of architecture would be for tablets/ultra portable only


ahah the opposite of me, since i was gifted a R5 3600 :) (which still run mighty fine albeit not being a 5XXX series, oh well, i can still probably upgrade to a 5700X later, given the price of it)
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previous was a b450/2600x so quite a performance jump
 
Tigger said:
was gifted the 12700k and z690 so did not turn it down.
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I hate you right now. :cry:

GreiverBlade said:
best comment of the thread :laugh:

as for me, well yeah i prefer AMD right now, but i had an equal share of both team CPU
albeit a shaky start Ryzen turned out to be a ... mmhh, yeah phoenix should be an adequate term

Intel, well, to me it seems they turned to childish PR, "MOAR WATTZ IZ BETTER!" "real life matter (disclaimer: in a perfectly controlled test environment and with a chiller)" their price are still inadequate even tho they are challenged by AMD and i do not like one bit their hybrid nonsense, it's personal but i think that kind of architecture would be for tablets/ultra portable only
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Ta. :D

In truth, both camps have got strong offerings right now. I'm waiting for Raptor Lake myself as the performance uplift over Alder Lake looks to be huge before hopefully upgrading my almost museum piece 2700K that still works surprisingly well.
 
It comes down to two, maybe three things (IMO)
1. $$$ vs performance - Ryzen had the performance crown for a while and its prices were still even, if not lower, than intel offerings in the same time prior to AL.
2. availability. Both sides have had their issues, but intel had a tougher time because of, dare i say..., 10nm.

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3. future upgrades - if people consider this, good for them. Having the 5800X3D backwards compatible on so many boards, 3xx and up, made a huge difference in sales.

I've always been price conscious which leaned me to AMD, sure there are times I would have liked to have an Intel system, but with Intel changing sockets every two years and insignificant incremental upgrades just to call it its next generation lineup, AMD was still the winner there for longevity. I still wont choose a side as each has their own merits and disappointments.
 
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I did vote AMD, but this does not mean that I am "locked in" to their products. I just think AMD is in a better position right now and I like to support the underdog.
 
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Every computer I have ever built has been Amd since 1997. About 25 of them for friends and my kids.
The only Intel computers have been Ibm and Dell servers, and an Asus, Hp laptop.
 
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