Users still prefer AMD processors

[GreiverBlade]

previous was a b450/2600x so quite a performance jump

me a i5-6600K that did not take any OC anymore and a Z170X Gaming 7
i got a MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk for 99chf which was a heck of a deal compared to the 219chf Gigabyte one

Ta.

In truth, both camps have got strong offerings right now. I'm waiting for Raptor Lake myself as the performance uplift over Alder Lake looks to be huge before hopefully upgrading my almost museum piece 2700K that still works surprisingly well.

yeah, i do agree, although i will keep in the red camp for a while, as Raptor lake do not fill me with renewed trust with Intel AL too when PR'ed by Intel had "huge performance uplift" but got mitigated by reviews ( the 5800X3D was quit a shock, since Intel did reclaim the "gaming crown" )
(my current HTPC slash light gaming rig is a salvaged SFF with a i7-3770 )

The ride for these Companies is over. GPUs are still too expensive a 3080 10GB is on sale at Newegg for $1079 CAD and that seems good until you realize that Gas, Food and Heat (depending where you live) are way more important than electronics that are already compellingly good. My 6800XT is as fast as 2 Vega 64s at 2/5 the power. The 3060+ are all Great GPUs and the 12th Gen is Intel actually doing something for the masses instead of their board. Unless a Game releases that has and can maintain the hype like Cyberpunk or some new Coin that is GPU friendly gains traction there is not a compelling reason to look forward to these things. Having said that if the 7800XT is 30-50% faster than a 6800XT in Gaming and around $1000 Canadian I will be buying one.

i happily made the switch from green to red once i finally did find a "under reference MSRP" RX 6700 XT

in the end, as long as you are happy with what you get, and i am, it's all fine no matter the brand

call me nostalgic ... but Ryzen renewed the OG Slot A Athlon feeling i had back in 99 ^_^

 

[birdie]

What a heavily fanboyish poll, I've voted other. You know why?

Because I choose effing products not companies. Doing anything else is, sorry to blurt it, asinine.

AMD produced literal crap for years (K10 core architecture (2007–2013)). Intel stagnated from Sandy Bridge up to Ice Lake. The first two Zen uArchs were quite bad, yeah Zen 1 and Zen 1+ were failures in my opinion. Slower than Sandy Bridge which was released many years earlier. Only with Zen 2 they became competitive.

And don't remind me of horrible GPU generations by AMD(ATI)/NVIDIA over the past two decades.

E.g. NVIDIA FX (5000) series was literal crap just like Radeon 200 and 300 series. Fermi was very bad and people keep making jokes about it even to this date.

 

[GreiverBlade]

What a heavily fanboyish poll, I've voted other. You know why?

actually, since you can vote for both and even other together ... you are not making a lot of sense with that line.

why so aggressive? also for "AMD produced literal crap for years." not for the last years (nor for the Athlon/Athlon 64 years also) ... but true Intel stagnated (before ADL, now they are waking up a bit )
as for horrible GPU well, any brands have lemons ... (although i loved my Leadtek Winfast A350 FX5900 Ultra )

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

What a heavily fanboyish poll, I've voted other. You know why?

Because I choose fucking products not companies. Doing anything else is, sorry to blurt it, asinine.

AMD produced literal crap for years (K10 core architecture (2007–2013)). Intel stagnated from Sandy Bridge up to Ice Lake. The first two Zen uArchs were quite bad, yeah Zen 1 and Zen 1+ were failures in my opinion. Slower than Sandy Bridge which was released many years before. Only with Zen 2 they became competitive.

And don't remind me of horrible GPU generations by AMD(ATI)/NVIDIA over the past two decades.

E.g. NVIDIA FX (5000) series was literal crap. Fermi was very bad and people keep making jokes about it even to this date.

Yes, you can make it fanboyish if you want. I prefer to find a small range of products that can fit my use case, and make a decision based on value. However, I still take the manufacturer into consideration - and supporting the underdog helps the market.

 

[Assimilator]

I don't care about products or companies. I care about performance and features versus cost. Whoever can provide the best balance gets my hard-earned cash. No other considerations.

 

[Vayra86]

What a heavily fanboyish poll, I've voted other. You know why?

Because I choose effing products not companies. Doing anything else is, sorry to blurt it, asinine.

AMD produced literal crap for years (K10 core architecture (2007–2013)). Intel stagnated from Sandy Bridge up to Ice Lake. The first two Zen uArchs were quite bad, yeah Zen 1 and Zen 1+ were failures in my opinion. Slower than Sandy Bridge which was released many years earlier. Only with Zen 2 they became competitive.

And don't remind me of horrible GPU generations by AMD(ATI)/NVIDIA over the past two decades.

E.g. NVIDIA FX (5000) series was literal crap just like Radeon 200 and 300 series. Fermi was very bad and people keep making jokes about it even to this date.

Yep.. minus the fanboy comment because the funny thing is, that exists in the eyes of the beholder more than anyone else...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I hate you right now.


Ta.

In truth, both camps have got strong offerings right now. I'm waiting for Raptor Lake myself as the performance uplift over Alder Lake looks to be huge before hopefully upgrading my almost museum piece 2700K that still works surprisingly well.

Honestly was gifted them. A friend gave me £800 So i chose the ADL setup as it was new at the time and did not want to spend £800 on AM4

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I think this comes down to AMD making a good bet on AM4 longevity.... People with X370/B350 boards can still get really good performing Cpus. I hope intel looks at this and finally stops this 2 cpu generation per socket nonsense.

People should always be buying what makes the most sense with their $$$ my last upgrade came when the intel option was Rocketlake and that shit wasn't happening.

 

[95Viper]

Stay on topic.

 

[ERazer]

Ima stick with AMD for now I'm honestly still bitter that intel didn't innovate for a long time we got stuck 4c/8t with constant socket change, if you want more core or pcie lanes you have to pay extra for HEDT line. Its all good though we need competition. Nvidia grinds my gears as well pain in the ass to run in VM and linux.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I will go with the quickest at the time of buying, be it Intel or AMD, and i do not give a shit about power use as long as i can cool it, that is more important than power use.
No point blindly sticking to one brand because you lurve them, they don't give a shit about you, they just want your money.

 

[freeagent]

The guys here that helped me build my first AM4 rig did a really good job helping me navigate, and then later to clock it a little.. they made my transition from Intel to AMD painless, and even enjoyable. AM4 is like my old LGA775 lol.. in the sense that I actually still want to buy CPU's for it.. just to have and play with lol.. If you can overclock a 5600X3D I will buy it the day it comes out

But I am also looking to the future at the new sockets for Intel and AMD.. because kid number 2 is asking for his own computer.. that means my oldest and I get upgrades.. me first though

 

[wolf]

Whichever gives me the best bang for buck and hits the performance target I have chosen, of course some other factors like already owning a compatible board help. But prefer? eh.

I really have zero preference, I could care less which brand it is. I will say however with the X570 platform and 3700X then 5900X being my first AMD CPU's in a good few years, it was a more buggy and 'beta tester' feel than the Intel CPU's I had prior to them.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

But I am also looking to the future at the new sockets for Intel and AMD.. because kid number 2 is asking for his own computer.. that means my oldest and I get upgrades.. me first though

Kinda in the same boat wanting to see what Meteorlake offers although if the rumors of Intel not being able to hit their launch windows and having to delay products again are true it's going to be hard not going AM5 especially if they announce 3-4 year socket compatibility.

 

[Nater]

AM4 socket kind of makes it happen I think. I think most enthusiasts (who is buying these retail boxed CPU's) are on their 2nd or 3rd AMD CPU w/ the same rig essentially.

 

[eidairaman1]

Whichever gives me the best bang for buck and hits the performance target I have chosen, of course some other factors like already owning a compatible board help. But prefer? eh.

I really have zero preference, I could care less which brand it is. I will say however with the X570 platform and 3700X then 5900X being my first AMD CPU's in a good few years, it was a more buggy and 'beta tester' feel than the Intel CPU's I had prior to them.

Hmm The 5800 i built in december runs smooth as glass, must be the combination i selected

 

[Bones]

I use AMD more than I run Intel but still have a few of the blue here, posting with one right now TBH.
No real preference, just what I can get for the best price when shopping is what I do.

 

[damric]

The last Intel's I've personally owned were Skylake, and only because they were fun to base clock overclock the ones that they did not want you to. Then they took that away from the rest of the lakes so I decided to try out the AM4 stuff and they have been great.

 

[wolf]

Hmm The 5800 i built in december runs smooth as glass, must be the combination i selected

Yeah I've had the board for almost 3 years now I think, and it has had 15 BIOS revisions in that time, most of which I've upgraded to for features or stability. It's certainly not been as set and forget as I hoped, there has been some fickle moments with the RAM especially where newer versions have improved stability but I still need to run it at 1.4v to keep the system from crashing. PBO has been a swing and a miss for me entirely, I just can't really get anything to be stable other than stock, it won't take any undervolting at all without crashing...

But the worst part and this could be unique to my board, is that though all of those BIOS updates, it completely wipes my saved profiles, so if I do an update I need to write down all my settings first, then re add them manually, and often tinker yet again to get it all stable.

When it's running well it runs bloody well, and was excellent value for the performance and features, but it's been far from a smooth ride, where my previous intel systems were far more set (XMP) and forget. I certainly don't think this is everyone's AM4 experience, but it has been mine.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I prefer the processor that has the most interesting tech at the time I buy. When I got my PC, this was Ryzen, by a long shot. Raptor Lake seems to mature what Alder brought to the table, and I am quite intrigued by the 8P+16E configuration.

I hold no brand loyalty, though I am slightly biased towards Radeon for graphics - they really do try and I genuinely appreciate the ecosystem not being a complete black-box like NV. If anything is for sure, im back to AMD for graphics next round.

 

[Psychoholic]

I Like them both, If i had to pick one, it would be intel by a very slim margin.
I actually run both, My main rig is a 12900K (The one in my system specs)

My server is a 3900x (Hosts my Plex server, NAS, PiHole, some virtual SANs and Linux VMs for work)
its rock solid, it only gets rebooted for updates; Currently at 55 days uptime.. Before that it was around 140 days.

 

[eidairaman1]

Yeah I've had the board for almost 3 years now I think, and it has had 15 BIOS revisions in that time, most of which I've upgraded to for features or stability. It's certainly not been as set and forget as I hoped, there has been some fickle moments with the RAM especially where newer versions have improved stability but I still need to run it at 1.4v to keep the system from crashing. PBO has been a swing and a miss for me entirely, I just can't really get anything to be stable other than stock, it won't take any undervolting at all without crashing...

But the worst part and this could be unique to my board, is that though all of those BIOS updates, it completely wipes my saved profiles, so if I do an update I need to write down all my settings first, then re add them manually, and often tinker yet again to get it all stable.

When it's running well it runs bloody well, and was excellent value for the performance and features, but it's been far from a smooth ride, where my previous intel systems were far more set (XMP) and forget. I certainly don't think this is everyone's AM4 experience, but it has been mine.

I had my share of that with Asus P4S8X with a 9700 Pro AIW back in the Early 2000s, after having to use a beta mobo bios and change another setting, I switched to AMD with a MSI K7N2 Delta L and never had a problem. That experience made me not touch Asus until 2014 lol. That 5800 rig is using AsRock B550 Steel Legend, I have not updated the bios in it (If it aint broke dont fix it)

 

[wolf]

@eidairaman1 It certainly wouldn't stop me buying AMD in the future, I see it as a fairly singular experience, but I might avoid a Gigabyte Mobo...

 

[MarsM4N]

AMD just has the better package right now. Cheaper system price, lower power consumption, on par gaming performance (5800x3D even way better), way longer upgradeability, no problems with e-Cores, has no bending CPU mounting brackets, more honest PR than Intel, got Dr. Lisa Su, etc. etc.

Also on a side note, we pay in Germany the highest energy prices on the dam globe. So power consumption plays a huge part in consumer choices.

 

[AlwaysHope]

The most interesting thing about that graph is how both companies have seen a consistent decline from January onwards. I foresee that Raptor Lake/Zen 4 will not see the kind of sales that Zen 3 and Alder Lake did. I can also see GPU sales declining even after the next gen launches.

Indeed, its going to be most interesting in light of the current global inflation & supply issue problems affecting every market in every industry. Top that off with challenging geopolitical issues.