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Voltage Droop Enough to be Concerned With?

Tempted to just go with this:

Good grief! $750 for a PSU? Damn... Then again, you have a 3090 and 5950X...

Let's shop around.
Found the following;
$680 shipped
Same unit, better price, good seller.

I've never seen an EVGA PSU go bad.
$590 shipped
The SuperNova line is top tier and will not fail you.
 
Good grief! $750 for a PSU? Damn... Then again, you have a 3090 and 5950X...

Let's shop around.
Found the following;
$680 shipped
Same unit, better price, good seller.

I've never seen an EVGA PSU go bad.
$590 shipped
The SuperNova line is top tier and will not fail you.
this is extremely frustrating because if you google "ryzn" "whea_uncorrectable_error" you'll see there's rumors that there's a ton of bad silicon going around and the only recourse is a RMA... well i don't have a receipt for my chip cause i bought it second hand on a forum...


another rodeo with this AMD Ryzen build... first was insanity troubleshooting Bad Ram modules.... took over a month to figure out.


 
this is extremely frustrating because if you google "ryzn" "whea_uncorrectable_error" you'll see there's rumors that there's a ton of bad silicon going around and the only recourse is a RMA... well i don't have a receipt for my chip cause i bought it second hand on a forum...
I feel your pain. Have you tried your previous GPU and CPU? IIRC, you had a Ryzen 3600 didn't you?

another rodeo with this AMD Ryzen build... first was insanity troubleshooting Bad Ram modules.... took over a month to figure out.
What motherboard do you have? Have you considered that you might have an iffy mobo?

This is similar to what I was talking about earlier. In that first example, the PSU swap did nothing for them...
 
I feel your pain. Have you tried your previous GPU and CPU? IIRC, you had a Ryzen 3600 didn't you?


What motherboard do you have? Have you considered that you might have an iffy mobo?


This is similar to what I was talking about earlier. In that first example, the PSU swap did nothing for them...
honestly the entire ryzen experience has been unstable for me. i haven't had a single 100% stable platform on it.

the 3950X that i had was throwing WHEA Logger errors and i had no idea until using event viewer during troubleshooting the Bad Ram scenario and also a bad Gigabyte VISION 3090.

my one friend who bought the 3950X also had issues until he swapped the PSU to a Seasonic E850 or something.


problem is as you see there's people saying that the PSU swap didn't correct their issue.


i have no clue at this point anymore, but it seems the only company producing good Silicon is Intel.


I had a nightmare of an experience between G.Skill's Ram, Gigabyte's VISION 3090, and two Ryzen CPUs within the last few years.


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System NameBeaver's Build
ProcessorAMD Ryzen 9 5950X
MotherboardAsus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) - X570
CoolingCorsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid
MemoryG.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - 16-19-19-39
Video Card(s)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition
StorageInland 1TB NVMe M.2 (Phison E12) / Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe 512G / WD Black 6TB - 256M cache
Display(s)LG - 27UD68-P 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz - FreeSync 1 / IPS
CaseFractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s)Focusrite 2i4 USB Audio Interface
Power SupplyCorsair AX1200
MouseLogitech G3
KeyboardLogitech K120
SoftwareMicrosoft Windows 10 Pro x64
 
I consider vdroop is almost always a tuning issue in cooling and overclock setup. If vdroop is affecting your stability, you must be having resistance droop due to temperature elevation(Poole Frenkel Effect) and further compromises by vboost LLC only makes it worse. The cooling and performance should have a normalization trend, not fluctuation, as temperature ramps up. You can do it both ways, smart or practical either by looking at the temperature trend to see the fluctuations stop, or checking stability - they both meet at the same trend.
If you can stop using LLC and make a precise overclock, your cpu will start behaving like E series and any further cooling modifications will expand your overclock tune.
 
honestly the entire ryzen experience has been unstable for me. i haven't had a single 100% stable platform on it.

the 3950X that i had was throwing WHEA Logger errors and i had no idea until using event viewer during troubleshooting the Bad Ram scenario and also a bad Gigabyte VISION 3090.

my one friend who bought the 3950X also had issues until he swapped the PSU to a Seasonic E850 or something.


problem is as you see there's people saying that the PSU swap didn't correct their issue.


i have no clue at this point anymore, but it seems the only company producing good Silicon is Intel.


I had a nightmare of an experience between G.Skill's Ram, Gigabyte's VISION 3090, and two Ryzen CPUs within the last few years.


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System NameBeaver's Build
ProcessorAMD Ryzen 9 5950X
MotherboardAsus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) - X570
CoolingCorsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid
MemoryG.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - 16-19-19-39
Video Card(s)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition
StorageInland 1TB NVMe M.2 (Phison E12) / Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe 512G / WD Black 6TB - 256M cache
Display(s)LG - 27UD68-P 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz - FreeSync 1 / IPS
CaseFractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s)Focusrite 2i4 USB Audio Interface
Power SupplyCorsair AX1200
MouseLogitech G3
KeyboardLogitech K120
SoftwareMicrosoft Windows 10 Pro x64
Hi,
Well amd hedt plus a 3090 using an 850w psu is cutting it too close and likely only good for stock cpu/ gpu clocks

1200p2 is barely good on a 9940x and titan Xp lol not sure a 3090 plus oc'ing would work out but I'm sure I'd have a better chance than the your setup.

I don't get the penny pinching frankly a 3090/ 5950x is worth a little better psu buddy.
 
Even if he is using software to read, I bet if he used hardware to read it wouldn’t be too far off.
 
Hi,
Anyone pick up which region the op is in ?

USA biggest issue might be wall outlet is messed up/ loose connections or has too many other outlets on the same circuit.
Or simply circuit needs a 20amp breaker.
 
Even if he is using software to read, I bet if he used hardware to read it wouldn’t be too far off.

On JonnyGuru most people did not trust the software readings; best to use a DMM (Digital Multi Meter)
 
I have seen JG say you can trust certain readings from Corsair psus, probably something a little more modern though.
 
whea errors are overclock related but its possible the motherboard bios has funked up default voltages. i would start by getting your vddp, ccd, iod, vsoc voltages set and go from there. @tabascosauz @FilipM @freeagent @Taraquin have done quite a bit of overclocking and stability tweaks. i only bring this up because whea errors for me have never been assoicated with pbo or cpu overclocking but memory. the 5000 series chips seem to be voltage sensitive and too high of voltage can cause trouble too. also check out Share your AIDA 64 cache and memory benchmark here. start at page 56 and go on to about 60.
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I had a short on a molex and it wreaked havoc with my system, known good overclocks were no good.. sounds strange.. but it’s true
 
I would qr code read that thing to get tge hex address
 
No over clocking here. Just XMP profile

I have memtest86 booted from usb running now while I go run some errands. 1 pass has already successfully completed
 
On JonnyGuru most people did not trust the software readings; best to use a DMM (Digital Multi Meter)
They can be useful within the context of knowing that they will never be perfectly accurate. If one accepts that they are going to be "ballpark" type of readings and you simply watch the variations over time, they can be useful.

No over clocking here. Just XMP profile

I have memtest86 booted from usb running now while I go run some errands. 1 pass has already successfully completed
If you already have one pass no errors, chances are you're fine and it's not your RAM..
 
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No over clocking here. Just XMP profile

I have memtest86 booted from usb running now while I go run some errands. 1 pass has already successfully completed
xmp is overclocking. try running the voltages i listed. can you download ZenTimings and post a screenshot up? it will let me see what your have for volts.
 
voltages look alright. if you want to you can tweak them a little for stability. i only mention this even after having found my ram stable in memtest i would still get whea errors. its because the voltages listed also play a part overall in how the proc works. if you feel its worth exploring try these values set VSOC 1.125: VDDP .950: CCD 1.05. IOD 1.075.

good luck.
 
They can be useful within the context of knowing that they will never be perfectly accurate. If one accepts that they are going to be "ballpark" type of readings and you simply watch the variations over time, they can be useful.


If you already have one pass no errors, chances are you're fine and it's not your RAM..
Id run 10 passes...
 
i'm investing in the future of the build anyhow, so even if buying this PSU doesn't resolve the issue it is a solid component for the future in my opinion.


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"Overall Review: My PC with just a single RTX 3090 and Ryzen 9 3900X (because I've been unable to get the 5900X...) was turning off under load. As it turns out, the Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W can't handle this single GPU system! So I went all out and got this because I knew it'd last a very long time. Ridiculous that I need a four digit wattage power supply for a single GPU system, but this PSU resolved my issues. So the bottom line is, if you need power, get Super Flower. Or EVGA's Super Flower based PSUs. Whichever is available and more cost effective"

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Will run more MemTest86 Tests also

check out all these other issues people are having with the 471.96 drivers: (@lexluthermiester )

 
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i'm investing in the future of the build anyhow, so even if buying this PSU doesn't resolve the issue it is a solid component for the future in my opinion.


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"Overall Review: My PC with just a single RTX 3090 and Ryzen 9 3900X (because I've been unable to get the 5900X...) was turning off under load. As it turns out, the Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W can't handle this single GPU system! So I went all out and got this because I knew it'd last a very long time. Ridiculous that I need a four digit wattage power supply for a single GPU system, but this PSU resolved my issues. So the bottom line is, if you need power, get Super Flower. Or EVGA's Super Flower based PSUs. Whichever is available and more cost effective"

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Will run more MemTest86 Tests also

check out all these other issues people are having with the 471.96 drivers: (@lexluthermiester )

Seasonic or Superflower are my suggestions or a Vendor who uses their OEM design
 
i'm investing in the future of the build anyhow, so even if buying this PSU doesn't resolve the issue it is a solid component for the future in my opinion.


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"Overall Review: My PC with just a single RTX 3090 and Ryzen 9 3900X (because I've been unable to get the 5900X...) was turning off under load. As it turns out, the Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W can't handle this single GPU system! So I went all out and got this because I knew it'd last a very long time. Ridiculous that I need a four digit wattage power supply for a single GPU system, but this PSU resolved my issues. So the bottom line is, if you need power, get Super Flower. Or EVGA's Super Flower based PSUs. Whichever is available and more cost effective"

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Will run more MemTest86 Tests also

check out all these other issues people are having with the 471.96 drivers: (@lexluthermiester )

Nice choice. Good price for that level of wattage and functionality!
 
comp just BSOD w/ WHEA_UNRECOVERABLE_ERROR in GTA Online after i disabled V-Sync


"The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000010, 0xffffae8f21598028, 0xffffae8f0c81db5c, 0xffffae8f0c8df1a0). "
 
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comp just BSOD w/ WHEA_UNRECOVERABLE_ERROR in GTA Online after i disabled V-Sync


"The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000010, 0xffffae8f21598028, 0xffffae8f0c81db5c, 0xffffae8f0c8df1a0). "
Now we are getting somewhere,you see the bsod, scan the qr code to get the hex address.

I would use this link and get the tools they mention

 
Now we are getting somewhere,you see the bsod, scan the qr code to get the hex address.

I would use this link and get the tools they mention

QR Code = generic page

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still drooping pretty bad even without the XMP




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