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#51
Thats a high ambiant.Mines usually no more than 20ish.
 

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47c, you live in the desert or what? :eek:

And overclocked chips need big heat transfer. I have a triple and a single rad, granted two cards than run hot also. It goes just as high as 65° above 1.45v, thats why a seperate loop is due soon.
A dual rad, especially as thin as yours can have a hard time dealing with those temps.
 
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#54
that reservoir is as big as your ambient temp. i'll be honest i'm not a fan of your case I really don't like Apevia cases. this will be a great learning experience your loop is much better than mine was I had a external fish tank pump, old grout bucket for a reservoir, modified auto radiator I got from a mcse class mate and some no name tubing from the local hardware store but this was when liquid cooling market was born. I have always setup my loops in Reservoir -> Pump -> CPU -> Radiator -> Reservoir. forget Push and Pull, Push and Pull favors High Speed Fans and since High Speed Fans favor Thick Radiators with large Fin Density stick with Low Speed Fans in Pull until you can purchase a new Radiator. lol at smoke break when you have a smoke make sure you play some punch-out.
 
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#55
I just checked my temps and they suck!!
E8600 @ 4.25 1.4 volts idle @ 48c and 65c @ load!!
Hell thats no better than my air cooler!!
Dont see any air in the lines and ive leaned it side ways to see if it had any in the block or rad and shook it on the way back up and no air came out!!
Then took the block off and checked the seal to the CPU and the paste was even on both sides!!
Reapplied new paste and remounted block and still have same temps!!
What could be wrong?
The water is flowing very well...I can see it in the res shooting up!!
Any ideas?
Whats your ambient temp Asylum?

Oh also...

I'm working on a watercooling loop myself. :)
47c, you live in the desert or what? :eek:

And overclocked chips need big heat transfer. I have a triple and a single rad, granted two cards than run hot also. It goes just as high as 65° above 1.45v, thats why a seperate loop is due soon.
A dual rad, especially as thin as yours can have a hard time dealing with those temps.
Asylum - ambient means the air temp in the room. 47c is about 117f! And that's one HELL of an overclock!!!

I have a triple rad and see idle temps around 38c and load temps up to 52c with my E6600 CPU only at 3.2 right now (still messing with dividers and shit). Air temp is about 24c (75f).

What are you using for temp monitor?

Bumblebee has good points, good airflow through the rad is as important as it is with an air cooler.
 
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Sorry guys thought he meant idle temps!!
The temps in my house stay around 70f
 
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Dude put the rad inside more awesome/ better
 
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Wont fit inside!!
Plus that would just make temps hotter!!
 
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#59
3 suggestions -

try water wetter - it will drop temps by a bit - by reducing the surface tension of the water (i.e. making it absorb heat better)

Put your fans in pull mode, instead of push (mount the fans outside of the case to the rad.) Pull mode works better with <75CFM fans.

3 - check the mounting of the waterblock, and check the flatness of your chip. You may need to lap that sucker.

Last question - what are you using to load the chip?
 
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yeah your chip should be barely making it past 50C, at max.

Try to reverse the fans for a second so that they are blowing IN to the case through the rad.. If that makes a difference then you have an airflow problem, which is easy to fix.

I used to have those same exact components with the E8500 at 4.1Ghz 1.42V It should be performing alot better - we can fix it.
 
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I'm using a 120.2 with my fans in pull mode,i have also put two fan frames twixt fan and radiator,seems to make a differance.
 
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I'm using a 120.2 with my fans in pull mode,i have also put two fan frames twixt fan and radiator,seems to make a differance.
yeah the shrouds make a big difference, always a good idea if you got the space.
 

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You reckon it would make any differance if i put two more frames/fans on in push/pull mode?
 
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yeah your chip should be barely making it past 50C, at max.

Try to reverse the fans for a second so that they are blowing IN to the case through the rad.. If that makes a difference then you have an airflow problem, which is easy to fix.

I used to have those same exact components with the E8500 at 4.1Ghz 1.42V It should be performing alot better - we can fix it.
Ill try that out and see what happens!!
 
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You reckon it would make any differance if i put two more frames/fans on in push/pull mode?
It would. Martin's Liquid lab shows just the one 25MM-30MM shroud can improve t-delta by 10-15% - I don't know how much a second shroud would improve it by - never tried it since it would make cleaning dust out of the rad a PITA.
 

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It would make cleaning a pita,as it is now,i just take the side off and hoover the rad.Push pull is apparently better though,i might try it.
 
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#68
I tried the push pull method with 2 more fans on the outside and it only made 1c difference!!
Starting to think this rad or block is crap.
One or the other!!
Started out at 43c this morning when i first turned it on!!
Didnt take it long to go to 47c at idle!!
Ive checked the block 3 different times and the contact seems fine!!
Any ideas?
 

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Is this with your processor at stock?
 
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No its overclocked...E8600 @ 4.25ghz 1.38 volts 47c @ idle and 65c @ load!!
I got that with my air cooler!!
 
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is the block flat?
 
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i would go through the list
1 make sure its on securely
2 make sure its flat like phanbuey said you may need to lap it
 

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Most intel ihs are not flat,you can either try lapping the cpu,or use the fat ring that came with the apogee gt to bow th block.I just lapped my E6750 as the base on the gt is pretty flat.
 
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I changed flow direction and moved some fans around!!
Changed to pure water and got about 3c difference!!
The block looks to be flat but ill get a blade from work and check it and the CPU tomarrow!!
Looks like to me the rads not doing a good job!!
 
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You can tell if its the rad by touching the rad during load. Rads that are overloaded will be hot to the touch... that MCR 220 is one of the better rads around, and I almost guarantee that it is not the rad.

That same rad cooled my OC'd Q6600 at 1.52V to below 55C.

If you're BOOTING at 43C, then you have a contact issue. You should be booting at mid-20C.

Buy water wetter and add it to the loop. - it cools even better than pure water.