Weha need help to pick an amplifier >:o

[Sasqui]

You are talking about "cheap" or damaged speaker cables.

Wrong. It's about matching impedance of the amplifier and speakers. No mention of wires, no idea how you got that.

 

[AsRock]

I own a Rotel RDV 1092 (DVD/CD player) and though it cost me a lot of money it was worth every penny. I have always been tempted to buy a matching Rotel amp and preamp but I have so much audio equipment I really don't know what I'd do with it.

Would like to as well maybe in a few months although the pre amp part will have to wait as a Rotel with HDMI isn't cheap, will have to see.

 

[AnestisMania]

So people this is it...

i have picked more or less the receivers im interested in soo here they are

PIONEER VSX-424-K
Yamaha R-S202
Yamaha HTR-2067
VSX-330-K
Pioneer SX-20-K
YAMAHA RX-V381

So this is my list i will put info too if you want
but please look em up and tell me what you think ":3 thank you again

 

[JayCan73]

I've used a Yamaha RXV-373 over HDMI with my computer for the last 5 or 6 years and it's been perfect for movies music and gaming, my pc's audio quality limits it's potential some compared to bluray and cd sources but that's not the receivers fault, I like how the Yamahas are capable of using 6 and 8 ohm speakers, you will need to make sure any surround and center speakers you choose perform similarly to the ones you have already because the imbalance can be quite noticable. I find the sound to be more natural than the similarly priced pioneer I used previously which I found unnecessarily bassy.

 

[AsRock]

I've used a Yamaha RXV-373 over HDMI with my computer for the last 5 or 6 years and it's been perfect for movies music and gaming, my pc's audio quality limits it's potential some compared to bluray and cd sources but that's not the receivers fault, I like how the Yamahas are capable of using 6 and 8 ohm speakers, you will need to make sure any surround and center speakers you choose perform similarly to the ones you have already because the imbalance can be quite noticable. I find the sound to be more natural than the similarly priced pioneer I used previously which I found unnecessarily bassy.

Typo 6-8Ohms ?, last time i looked it was 4-8Ohm, but yeah been no issue for me either, regardless of what you or i think sounds better and if he thinks he might use HDMI \ blutooth in the some time future i think the Yamaha RX-V381 which is all so HDCP 2.2 as well,a lot are not and have compatibility issue's with the ROKU4 Amazon units.

Of course this is way more than he's wanting but it's more future proof.

As for the Yamaha HTR-2067, it's old unit and should give you what your after now.

As for pioneer i was thinking of getting one of their units some time ago but what put me off was the problems people were having with the censors how ever this could of been fixed by now. Personal experience with them is low and none existent since i moved tot he US some 15 years ago when i used to find them bright.

Personally if you be happy for a good while with the HTR-2067 which i hope you can get cheap being a old model would allow you to get some real speakers. I was just looking on ebay and believe one could be had for about $50-$60 were as getting the V381 one would take a big chuck of what you have to spend. But i am just going by what i am seeing on ebay and that be $60 for a HTR-5550 which is higher up than what your seeing.

The Yamaha R-S202 seems kinda crappy, well except those looks but think better can be had with a older model.

Either way the Pioneer or Yamaha should not have issue's driving Eltax speakers although there is better but i guess you could put that to preference.

 

[JayCan73]

I think the speaker resistance settings might differ between north american and european models on the same edition receivers, mine only lets you select 6 or 8 ohm impedance. What i like about the newer yamahas is all the decoding options. Mine was $250 new Canadian when I bought it which is pretty low end but I would have had to spend alot more to get noticably better performance. A used rxv 371, 373 or 375(same but different input options) is worth looking for as it's 5.1 like you were looking for and could be cheaper than the rxv 381 which is 7.1 or 7.2 I think?

 

[AnestisMania]

I dont know im a bit frustrated... there are a lot of things to keep in mind with speakers but
i think ill go with yamaha RX-V381
I was going to go with Pionner VSX-424 but since its rated to 6omhs i dont think is going to cut it... pff

picking receivers is hard ill do some more research and see what i can find...

They dont have any outputs that i wanted but meh.. its fine

oh and btw what do you think about Denon pma-520

 

[AsRock]

Your right, it's 6-8 here too. although i knew the Yamaha's excepted it to some degree. I must of been thinking of the ONKYO 608 i used to have. But anyway it will support 4Ohm speakers but only on the front 2 channels.
http://faq.yamaha.com/us/en/article...10654/7608/?current_page_id=1&sort=best&type=

371, 373 or 375

Yes he could of missed those too. as for the 381 it just a replacement model of those so it's 5.1.

I dont know im a bit frustrated... there are a lot of things to keep in mind with speakers but
i think ill go with yamaha RX-V381
I was going to go with Pionner VSX-424 but since its rated to 6omhs i dont think is going to cut it... pff

picking receivers is hard ill do some more research and see what i can find...

They dont have any outputs that i wanted but meh.. its fine

oh and btw what do you think about Denon pma-520

The Pioneer support 6-8Ohm's going by the data sheet
http://www.pioneer-audiovisual.eu/sites/default/files/datasheets/english/VSX-424.pdf

http://www.pioneer-audiovisual.eu/eu/def/products/vsx-424

I have not seen any support for 4Ohm speakers for the Pioneer your looking at. Maybe it does but they say nothing in the manual i just read on there site.

 

[AnestisMania]

Pff i cant pick
This is the end of the line...
we need your wisdom one last time mr.asrock..... and any other man-woman-*anything really* wants to say anything

PIONEER VSX-424-K ->Site: http://www.pioneer-audiovisual.eu/eu/def/products/vsx-424
Vs
yamaha RX-V381 ->Site: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v381_u/
yamaha RX-V375 ->Site: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v375_black_u/

Pfffffff ill never touch em again >

 

[AsRock]

If getting the 375 would save you a good chunk of money go for it, i am sure it would if it was second hand and would give you the options you want plus a few more if you decide to later to use them.

I am using a 375 now and it's not a bad unit at all, i am activity seeking to replace it which i did about 6 weeks ago with a NAD T753 how ever windows hates 5.1 optical it seems so i ended up going back to the 375 ( due to HDMI ) as to me it was better than my ONKYO 608.

As you have 4-8Ohm speakers (kinda odd that is ) i would of thought the 375\481 was the safer bet as they do say it supports 4Ohm though the front left\right speakers.

 

[WhiteNoise]

Of course Harman & Kardon, actually a brand i have never tried, how consistent are they with their sound though models ?, for example Yamaha always aim for a natural sound.

And always wanted to try a good valve amp but with my music range i been recommended not too and my mood for music changes day to day so be a load of messing about. And no space to have 2 systems setup sadly.

I've listened to several HK's over the years. My friend has one of their high end 5.1 receivers (back when 5.1 was the standard) and still to this day it sounds amazing. He actually has the same speakers as me as well. I would say HK make some of the better amps out there and truly sound fantastic. Between the ones I have heard they all sound great only the speakers changing the sound at all.

Here is a quote from home theater review on the HK 3490 and I agree with their thoughts:

HK has long been a proponent of high-current, ultrawide-bandwidth amplifier designs, and it pays sonic dividends. The sound is open and detailed, with clean upper midrange and highs, not harsh or grainy in the slightest.

 

[monim1]

You can try any of these
Onkyo A-9010 Integrated Stereo Amplifier
Yamaha RX-V379BL 5.1-Channel A/V Receiver
Sony STR-DH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver
Harman Kardon Audiophile Home Theater Receiver (AVR 1610S)