whats going on with core 2 quad and windows?

[lexluthermiester]

391.35 is from 2018, lol

Still works.

 

[freeagent]

391.35 is from 2018, lol

Gotta go earlier than that, like 32xx or 34xx.

I just need it to "burn" settings to the card.

 

[DirtyBiker]

could always try running it through the intel SDE

Intel® Software Development Emulator

Learn more about the emulator, including a product overview, installation instructions, and instructions for running emulator tools and modes.

www.intel.com

ive used that on my phenom ii x6 rig to run newer games back in the day. its basically an instruction set emulator that will emulate the missing instructions in software.

Not on this machine I wouldn't even bother it was barely able to muster 75 frames per second in Fortnite in performance mode trying to emulate SSE 4.2 would drop it down to maybe five or six frames per second Plus it would never get past the anti-cheat software

 

[Dr. Dro]

Still works.

I mean, it's the latest/last release for the GTX 580, so yea

Gotta go earlier than that, like 32xx or 34xx.

I just need it to "burn" settings to the card.

I wonder why, r340 was the last for the Tesla architecture cards... my Mac mini also likes an older branch, interestingly it's the one for the 7900 series cards (r309) that works best with it

 

[freeagent]

I mean, it's the latest/last release for the GTX 580, so yea



I wonder why, r340 was the last for the Tesla architecture cards... my Mac mini also likes an older branch, interestingly it's the one for the 7900 series cards (r309) that works best with it

Asus GPU Tweak.. ugh.. because like 1 version works with my card, which is why I need to use such an old driver..

 

[Dr. Dro]

Asus GPU Tweak.. ugh.. because like 1 version works with my card, which is why I need to use such an old driver..

MSI Afterburner doesn't work for it? Even with extended third-party manufacturer support enabled?

 

[freeagent]

MSI Afterburner doesn't work for it? Even with extended third-party manufacturer support enabled?

Nope, no voltage control, no fan control.. pretty lame. But! I have 1 step down from the max OC with voltage, fan curve and all that burned. Only thing is, it is locked that way until I find the right combo again..

 

[lexluthermiester]

I mean, it's the latest/last release for the GTX 580, so yea

And they're perfectly stable, with no known problems or security issues.

My point with the post earlier was that people need to stop with this moronic idea that something older and no longer updated is useless or a danger. It's a dumbass myth that needs to go away.

Also, that and this post was a statement of objection, not an attack on any one person. Please, no one take offense.

 

[Dr. Dro]

And they're perfectly stable, with no known problems or security issues.

My point with the post earlier was that people need to stop with this moronic idea that something older and no longer updated is useless or a danger. It's a dumbass myth that needs to go away.

Also, that and this post was a statement of objection, not an attack on anyone person. Please no one take offense.

None taken, and I agree with you. It's a solid final release for that card, personally never had issues with that particular version on my 580s either. Just brought up that 391.35 isn't from the early 2010s

Nope, no voltage control, no fan control.. pretty lame. But! I have 1 step down from the max OC with voltage, fan curve and all that burned. Only thing is, it is locked that way until I find the right combo again..

I'm assuming it's something like a ROG Matrix 580 that you have, a newer version of GPU Tweak meant for say, the GTX 680 won't work on it?

 

[freeagent]

None taken, and I agree with you. It's a solid final release for that card, personally never had issues with that particular version on my 580s either. Just brought up that 391.35 isn't from the early 2010s



I'm assuming it's something like a ROG Matrix 580 that you have, a newer version of GPU Tweak meant for say, the GTX 680 won't work on it?

Yup, the Matrix Platinum, and no, for whatever reason, new versions either don't properly detect, or just outright crash.

It has been awhile since I have played with it, but I don't see much changing since the last time I tried.. back in like 2015 or something

 

[lexluthermiester]

either don't properly detect, or just outright crash.

That is as weird as it is janky. Why would ASUS do that?

 

[freeagent]

That is as weird as it is janky. Why would ASUS do that?

Good question, I have avoided Asus cards because of that software lol..

 

[DirtyBiker]

That is as weird as it is janky. Why would ASUS do that?

Have you tried disabling driver signature enforcement in advanced startup, then running the installers and executables as an administrator and in compatibility mode for your OS? I recall updating my old laptop's Nvidia GeForce Go 7400 drivers for Windows 10. It was an XP-era HP Pavilion DV8320 with an Intel Core Duo. I had to comb through numerous Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 drivers and edit the INF file to include my card's ID before finding one that worked. I managed to run Afterburner and overclock it with full voltage control. Although I still have the laptop, I repurposed the HDDs, so the driver details are gone. It needs a new CPU fan, which started buzzing. Previously, I had fully disassembled it to install the fastest Core 2 Duo available. I don't recall which CPU it was, but it ran Windows 7 flawlessly, then Windows 10 until the fan needed fixing—a task I never got around to. Replacing that CPU was quite the process; I had to remove every screw to access it.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Good question, I have avoided Asus cards because of that software lol..

Modern cards aren't the same, my ROG Strix 4080 works well with MSI Afterburner. Lighting is synced to ASUS Aura and can be controlled with Armoury Crate if you want. It'll even sync with my ASUS MB's BIOS setting, for example, if I enable "Stealth Mode" to disable all lighting in the BIOS, the GPU will turn its lights off too, before even getting to Windows. It's pretty neat.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Have you tried disabling driver signature enforcement in advanced startup, then running the installers and executables as an administrator and in compatibility mode for your OS? I recall updating my old laptop's Nvidia GeForce Go 7400 drivers for Windows 10. It was an XP-era HP Pavilion DV8320 with an Intel Core Duo. I had to comb through numerous Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 drivers and edit the INF file to include my card's ID before finding one that worked. I managed to run Afterburner and overclock it with full voltage control. Although I still have the laptop, I repurposed the HDDs, so the driver details are gone. It needs a new CPU fan, which started buzzing. Previously, I had fully disassembled it to install the fastest Core 2 Duo available. I don't recall which CPU it was, but it ran Windows 7 flawlessly, then Windows 10 until the fan needed fixing—a task I never got around to. Replacing that CPU was quite the process; I had to remove every screw to access it.

I think this was intended for @freeagent .

 

[Hardcore Games]

I've recently reacquired an old Dell OptiPlex 380 SFF that I custom-built years ago for my nephew to play Fortnite. After a clean installation of Windows 10, I encountered issues with launching several applications that previously worked fine, such as Cinebench R15, MSI Kombustor, ASUS ROG Furmark failing to launch, and Fortnite. Despite trying older versions of Kombustor, the problem persists. The machine generally performs well, as it's equipped with a new-old-stock Dell OptiPlex 380 motherboard, a 775 to 771 BIOS mod, and a Xeon E5450 processor, along with a custom vertical-mounted GTX 1050 TI. I suspect the issue may be related to the absence of SSE4.2 instructions as Fortnite displays a SSE4.2 error, all these applications functioned correctly before but the machine w dormant for 4 years un plugged. I would appreciate any thoughts or insights on getting this machine operational. when inspecting the Cinebench crash report it appears to list CPU instructions as supported that are not present on this CPU the Cinebench error is could there be some CFG file that is reporting these instruction sets a present then when the programs try to access them it fails to load?
ExceptionNumber = 0xC000001D
ExceptionText = "ILLEGAL_INSTRUCTION"
Address = 0x00007FFCE39499A3
Thread = 6536
Last_Error = 0x00000006

This machine is so old Dell is not even supporting Windows 10 on it

Go find a more recent machine

 

[lexluthermiester]

This machine is so old Dell is not even supporting Windows 10 on it

No, but it supports Windows 7 64bit drivers and 99% of Windows 7 drivers run perfectly on Win 10. So the support is there, just not officially.

Support for OptiPlex 380 | Drivers & Downloads | Dell US

Go find a more recent machine

Unless you're going to buy them a more recent system out of your own pocket, don't bark orders at people concerning their own property. If you can't be helpful, go elsewhere.

 

[DirtyBiker]

This machine is so old Dell is not even supporting Windows 10 on it

Go find a more recent machine

Thanks for the advice but I already have modern hardware I just enjoy getting the most out of this old stuff and this one is like an old child of mine custom built by me myself and actually now it's running quite well But thanks for the advice

 

[Dr. Dro]

This machine is so old Dell is not even supporting Windows 10 on it

Go find a more recent machine

That doesn't matter much, to be honest with you. Besides it's not like OP is making unreasonable demands, like "I wanna get this old Optiplex to run GTA VI at 8K, and you won't convince me otherwise!"

Core 2 machines are a lot of fun, they're worth next to nothing (financially speaking) and yet still remarkably useful.

 

[DirtyBiker]

Yeah for the average PC user throw a big screen on here and nice keyboard and you wouldn't know the difference as far as surfing the web paying bills photo editing and running Windows 11 23H2 copilot can be quite useful it gets the job done for next to nothing

 

[Hardcore Games]

Old operating systems are wide open to security breaches

This is why I use Windows 11

 

[DirtyBiker]

I reinstalled the GTX 1050TI into the OptiPlex because I need the 750TI for testing, as it has VGA for my test monitor. I also wanted to check the power consumption since Dell specifies that the PCIe slot on this board is capped at 35W. With stock settings or undervolted to 925mV and the core clock at 1771, with the memory slider set to +700, voltage, and temperature sliders maxed out, it reports 31-35W power consumption at the PCIe slot at idle. However, under a stress test using Asus ROG Furmark, it reaches and sustains 69W continuously through the OpenGL benchmark with a 50% CPU load and 100% GPU load, while maintaining a boost clock of 1509-1550. Is this power consumption accurate, or is it indeed drawing close to 70W?

 

[eidairaman1]

I reinstalled the GTX 1050TI into the OptiPlex because I need the 750TI for testing, as it has VGA for my test monitor. I also wanted to check the power consumption since Dell specifies that the PCIe slot on this board is capped at 35W. With stock settings or undervolted to 925mV and the core clock at 1771, with the memory slider set to +700, voltage, and temperature sliders maxed out, it reports 31-35W power consumption at the PCIe slot at idle. However, under a stress test using Asus ROG Furmark, it reaches and sustains 69W continuously through the OpenGL benchmark with a 50% CPU load and 100% GPU load, while maintaining a boost clock of 1509-1550. Is this power consumption accurate, or is it indeed drawing close to 70W?

Run 3dmark, unigen benchmarks

Have hwinfo64 run in background during those tests

 

[R-T-B]

You don't have an additional PCIe connector attatched? This card is slot power only?

 

[DirtyBiker]

Old operating systems are wide open to security breaches

This is why I use Windows 11

Well yes and no, hackers target modern operating systems due to the financial gains associated with contemporary security flaws and really have no interest in old hardware or software as those typically are 0 value targets, if a hacker targets you personally there is little to no defense for a common user. even the most secure systems in the government financial and corporate sectors with the highest levels of security get hacked, even with the latest Windows 11, browsing random websites or opening suspicious emails can still leave you vulnerable. Security is fundamentally about awareness and exercising common sense.

You don't have an additional PCIe connector attatched? This card is slot power only?

PCIe only no external power with a dell 280w PSU