Whats up with OCZ!?

[Crazykenny]

Hey fellow TPUers,

I got this problem, well not only me a bunch of other people aswell.

To get to the point... does OCZ memory just suck that bad that brand new modules spark millions of errors? I've bought my 4GB OCZ 1600mhz set half a year ago and I got 1 single mem-error that randomly spawns bluescreens or crashes once in a while, I can still work with my system perfectly.

My friend, who bought a 4GB kit of 1333 memory had ram-errors from the start, not just one but millions. Once again, this is brand new memory. I've got a few other friends that got unstable system due to OCZ memory aswell. Damn... OCZ has lost allot of respect from me.

I told him to get his money back, give OCZ the finger and buy a 1600mhz Corsair kit thats only 20 bucks more expensive. I wanna do this aswell, but I wanna know is 1600mhz gonna run stable with my 945? Whats the best memory I can use for my system?

So yeah, thats the end of my rant. A big F- you to OCZ for delivering that faulty memory to me and 4 of my friends....

 

[Thrackan]

Hey fellow TPUers,

I got this problem, well not only me a bunch of other people aswell.

To get to the point... does OCZ memory just suck that bad that brand new modules spark millions of errors? I've bought my 4GB OCZ 1600mhz set half a year ago and I got 1 single mem-error that randomly spawns bluescreens or crashes once in a while, I can still work with my system perfectly.

My friend, who bought a 4GB kit of 1333 memory had ram-errors from the start, not just one but millions. Once again, this is brand new memory. I've got a few other friends that got unstable system due to OCZ memory aswell. Damn... OCZ has lost allot of respect from me.

I told him to get his money back, give OCZ the finger and buy a 1600mhz Corsair kit thats only 20 bucks more expensive. I wanna do this aswell, but I wanna know is 1600mhz gonna run stable with my 945? Whats the best memory I can use for my system?

So yeah, thats the end of my rant. A big F- you to OCZ for delivering that faulty memory to me and 4 of my friends....

Here's +1 from the anti-OCZ camp.
Memory not working straight out of the box, SSD's with jitter/controller errors, and don't forget the overpriced experimental Neural Impulse Actuator. I do not buy OCZ stuff anymore.

 

[Crazykenny]

Here's +1 from the anti-OCZ camp.
Memory not working straight out of the box, SSD's with jitter/controller errors, and don't forget the overpriced experimental Neural Impulse Actuator. I do not buy OCZ stuff anymore.

How does that RAM work with your AMD? I'm looking for new RAM for my 945 instead of this OCZ junk.

 

[Yukikaze]

Just to give the opposite view point: I currently have a total of 12 sticks of OCZ RAM (and I've had more), ranging from Extreme Latency DDR1 sticks, through value DDR2 and DDR3 sticks and finally my 12GB set used on my i7. I never had any problems with any of them, and I managed to clock one of the value DDR2 CL5-5-5-15 800Mhz sticks to 1160Mhz CL6-6-6-18 on 1.9v.

Those memory issues might be just a bad luck streak. It happens to every manufacturer if you look hard enough for people who have experienced it, and is most often nothing more than anecdotal evidence of anything.

Could it be that the IMC on that Phenom II is not able to run the sticks at those speeds/timings ? After all, you can have 2500Mhz rated DDR3 sticks, but if the IMC is not willing to play ball, you'll never get them to work at that speed.

 

[PaulieG]

I don't run OCZ right now, but my last two sets were quite good, especially a set of 1866 Reapers that I wish I still had. The SSD issue is not a brand problem, it is a Jmicron controller problem, and many early SSD had an issue with stuttering.

 

[t_ski]

No problems with my current or previous OCZ, but I have had motherboard issues before that sound like yours, and it is simply a matter or correctly setting the ram to work with your system. If not, then the ram could be bad.

 

[wahdangun]

hmmm i never have bad experience with OCZ, i even have they gaming keyboard and mouse, and they rock solid

so i like OCZ especially their vertex SSD,


and about jitter in their ssd, it's because in the early day's they use junk J-micron controller,

 

[Crazykenny]

Well, I'm not buying anything from them no more. I set my timings and voltages in the BIOS. Hell I even downclocked to 1333 and still get the same crap.

But what can you people recommend, memory wise? I need some good AMD ram. My motherboard supprt 1333 and 1600oc.

 

[t_ski]

Find out what Asus (or other users) recommends for that board

 

[Bo$$]

Well, I'm not buying anything from them no more. I set my timings and voltages in the BIOS. Hell I even downclocked to 1333 and still get the same crap.

But what can you people recommend, memory wise? I need some good AMD ram. My motherboard supprt 1333 and 1600oc.

asus boards are Very picky with ram

 

[Tatty_Two]

Have Kingston in the PC but still have and have been running a 3GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 kit that really is fast and is/was trouble free for the 6 months I used them at very tight timings. As bo$$ says, for some reason some Asus boards can be very picky, I had an Asus P45 and X48 and neither would take OCZ but both loved GSkill. I appreciate this dont solve your problem but sometimes it's a compatitability problem and not a memory error problem.

 

[Crazykenny]

I ordered this: http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/278740.aspx

I hope its any good.

EDIT: Tatty, explain to me why MemTest is giving me errors then? Can compatibility really do that? :O

 

[t_ski]

You could have great ram that's meant for an Intel rig, but it won't do so good on an AMD rig. There are many other possibilities along the same lines. If you have a friend with a different setup that uses the same type of ram (ie: DDR2), then swapping with that friend might show whether the ram is good or if it's not compatible.

 

[kuroikenshi]

had a 700 watt OCZ power supply that died after a year and a half... seems rather fast to me.... With that I have been a bit hesitent to get another OCZ one.

 

[Thrackan]

How does that RAM work with your AMD? I'm looking for new RAM for my 945 instead of this OCZ junk.

Haven't had much stuff fail on me ever, I like the Crucial sticks, and they're not that expensive either.

I don't run OCZ right now, but my last two sets were quite good, especially a set of 1866 Reapers that I wish I still had. The SSD issue is not a brand problem, it is a Jmicron controller problem, and many early SSD had an issue with stuttering.

OCZ's problem is they don't check if their stuff works. If they had stress- and quality tested, they would have noticed the flaw and if they had any brains, they would not have sold the product.
Badly flashed SPD's on RAM, stuttering SSD controllers, NIA's that are uncalibratable, these are all things you can, and should, test.

They tend to "make up" for these things by offering a damn lot of forum support, and by also bringing some smashing working products to the market, which keep their name up high. In my opinion such mistakes are unforgivable, as I believe that any hardware you can buy in a retail store should simply work, unless it's actually really broken.
As a hardware enthusiast, I am able to overcome some of these problems, but anyone can buy this stuff. Instead of taking the chance that I actually receive a working OCZ product the next time I buy one, I just don't buy OCZ anymore.

 

[Tatty_Two]

I ordered this: http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/278740.aspx

I hope its any good.

EDIT: Tatty, explain to me why MemTest is giving me errors then? Can compatibility really do that? :O

Yes compatibility can do that, if you get BSOD errors in windows for example would you not expect memtest to fail? Of course I don't know that there are not genuine errors on one of your sticks, there may well be, my point simply is that it is not always a "fault" that causes such issues.

Of course you could always RMA them to be sure, I think OCZ has a lifetime warranty for thier memory.

 

[Bo$$]

Yes compatibility can do that, if you get BSOD errors in windows for example would you not expect memtest to fail? Of course I don't know that there are not genuine errors on one of your sticks, there may well be, my point simply is that it is not always a "fault" that causes such issues.

Of course you could always RMA them to be sure, I think OCZ has a lifetime warranty for thier memory.

+1

 

[roast]

I have to disagree with OCZ sucking. Generally OCZ products are fine, but of course some products can be faulty (its par for the course) and its the same with every manufacturer. You just had bad luck by the look of it.
I've had OCZ memory in the past, and it was perfectly fine. Currently, I have an OCZ Vanquisher, and have had no problems with it.

 

[Crazykenny]

Yes compatibility can do that, if you get BSOD errors in windows for example would you not expect memtest to fail? Of course I don't know that there are not genuine errors on one of your sticks, there may well be, my point simply is that it is not always a "fault" that causes such issues.

Of course you could always RMA them to be sure, I think OCZ has a lifetime warranty for thier memory.

I'm gonna RMA them when the Dominator sticks get here. When they return I'll give them another shot at running in my system alongside those Dominators.

But my question isnt answered yet, are those Dom Sticks good for AMD?

 

[JTS]

OCZ's problem is they don't check if their stuff works. If they had stress- and quality tested, they would have noticed the flaw and if they had any brains, they would not have sold the product.

Somebody at least checks their RMA sticks...

My first set of 3x2GB OCZ Gold 1600mhz, I had a 1 module die in under three weeks - but the replacement set has being going strong with tighter than stock timings since.

It's luck of the draw - but OCZ do seem to have a pretty high DOA/failure rate compared to other brands. But when they work, they work well

 

[Thrackan]

Somebody at least checks their RMA sticks...

My first set of 3x2GB OCZ Gold 1600mhz, I had a 1 module die in under three weeks - but the replacement set has being going strong with tighter than stock timings since.

It's luck of the draw - but OCZ do seem to have a pretty high DOA/failure rate compared to other brands. But when they work, they work well

True, their working products aren't bad at all. Their top line memory modules perform exceptionally well, and their (branded) PSU's are top class. As I said though, I'm not taking chances on it anymore, just as some people refuse to buy MSI graphics cards.

The fact that I'm making such a fuss about it is that everywhere I say this, people react with "You're lying, OCZ makes great stuff." or something else lacking any argument.
Same goes for saying "the jMicron controller is at fault, not OCZ", which is plain weird in my view because OCZ are the ones selling the SSD's. They should have tested the controller more properly before implementing it in their Core SSD's.
Sure, jMicron did a fuckup with their controller, and they are at fault too, but they aren't the only ones.

 

[WarEagleAU]

Yes, those Dominators should work fine for your system. I Was going to recommend, based on what the QVL of my board says, to go with something from G.Skill, Kingston, or even Corsair. Patriot is also a great choice.

 

[TIGR]

I used to use OCZ memory regularly, but in the past year I've seen so many articles and posts about problems with OCZ memory that it's now low on my list of brands to use for new builds. One can't really go by experiences with just a few modules, but it is unwise to ignore the voices of the detractors when there are so many.

 

[Mussels]

Hmmm, are you sure its not because of failing to set them up right? wrong voltages/timings etc?

 

[t_ski]

Hmmm, are you sure its not because of failing to set them up right? wrong voltages/timings etc?

That's what I said:

No problems with my current or previous OCZ, but I have had motherboard issues before that sound like yours, and it is simply a matter or correctly setting the ram to work with your system. If not, then the ram could be bad.

My comments seems to have been ignored...