Whats up with OCZ!?

[Skywalker12345]

+1 on anti-OCZ

There 1600mhz am3 kit i bought will not run at 1600 at all. Tried RMA and still same problem i have given up hope on them and have been running them at 1333mhz. that is the only way mem test will not fail and i will not get blue screens. i havent got to OC my proc at all

edit: comp in specs

 

[DrPepper]

My comments seems to have been ignored...

I had the same issue with an asus board a while back and I thought it was the OCZ ram cause my kingston's ran fine in it but the OCZ worked fine in my P5Q and it turned out the motherboard was faulty.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mussels
Hmmm, are you sure its not because of failing to set them up right? wrong voltages/timings etc?

That's what I said:


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Originally Posted by t_ski
No problems with my current or previous OCZ, but I have had motherboard issues before that sound like yours, and it is simply a matter or correctly setting the ram to work with your system. If not, then the ram could be bad.

My comments seems to have been ignored...

He said he went in bios and set up the RAM.

Well, I'm not buying anything from them no more. I set my timings and voltages in the BIOS. Hell I even downclocked to 1333 and still get the same crap.

But what can you people recommend, memory wise? I need some good AMD ram. My motherboard supprt 1333 and 1600oc.

 

[Skywalker12345]

I think OCZ just has bad binning process of these chips

 

[DaedalusHelios]

I would say it is compatibility. I have had memory issues with four out of five Asus boards I have used in the last 4 years. i just stopped using them after I bought a P6T X58 months ago and had to buy 4 sets of RAM until I found a type that was 100% stable with it. They are plug and pray unless you buy straight off of QVL.

 

[t_ski]

I would say it is compatibility. I have had memory issues with four out of five Asus boards I have used in the last 4 years. i just stopped using them after I bought a P6T X58 months ago and had to buy 4 sets of RAM until I found a type that was 100% stable with it. They are plug and pray unless you buy straight off of QVL.

Agree that it should be the settings.

He said he went in bios and set up the RAM.

How much was teaked though? Saying you went in to the BIOS and set up the ram could mean he changed one timing or twelve. Was the voltage changed? Was the correct set of timings used for compatibility with that board? I had an Asus Maximus Formula that I tweaked the crap out of to run my OCZ Platinums at killer settings. Turns out one setting made all the difference, and for me it was the skew (300ms IIRC). Leaving it at default sucked, but once I tweaked that they would run at fast timings with a high performance level.

 

[DonInKansas]

Everyone has bad luck with a certain company. MSI is my culprit. I've had a mobo and 3 vid cards go into the pooper from them, yet others swear by them.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

Agree that it should be the settings.

Only certain RAM can run in triple channel on the P6T I had. It wasn't settings that were the problem. I tried a variety of settings with latency, voltage, and frequency and still triple channel needed certain modules(It even says that in the QVL list). My MSI X58 and Asrock X58(Asus "value targeted" subsidiary) had no such issues.

My 7-series Nvidia chipset Asus boards were not only problematic with RAM, but most died within months with no OC at all. You could blame it on Nvidia but Asus QC should have picked up on the high rate of DOA ones I ordered (2 were DOA I believe). Thankfully Asus RMA procedures are as fast as anyone could ask for. Although sometimes they just send back the same board with a different problem.

 

[WSP]

occasionally, raising vdimm to 1.7-1.8v will do the work on AMD 45nm.
I Had Team Xtreem D3-1866C8 2gb kit which worked out well straight out of the box with Intel systems (run default @1333mhz CL9 1.5v and OCed to 2000mhz CL7@2.0v on X48 DDR3 mobo). but refused to work normally on AMD systems (770 chipset, Phenom II proc).

I had to manually raising the voltage to 1.83v and amazingly it run fine, even OCed to 1600mhz CL7.

so, the first time you want to buy a set of RAMs is to check compability with your mobo/proc.

don't blame the RAMs coz it doesnt do what it suppose to do.

check first, blame on it later

 

[DrPepper]

My 7-series Nvidia chipset Asus boards were not only problematic with RAM, but most died within months with no OC at all. You could blame it on ATi but Asus QC should have picked up on the high rate of DOA ones I ordered (2 were DOA I believe). Thankfully Asus RMA procedures are as fast as anyone could ask for. Although sometimes they just send back the same board with a different problem.

Exactly the problem I had with a 780i board.

 

[Mussels]

Exactly the problem I had with a 780i board.

oh yeah, dont blame anyone else if you got an nvidia chipset board, those things are well known to kill stuff.

 

[DrPepper]

oh yeah, dont blame anyone else if you got an nvidia chipset board, those things are well known to kill stuff.

It got served with manslaughter once when I sent it back for rma.

 

[Tatty_Two]

oh yeah, dont blame anyone else if you got an nvidia chipset board, those things are well known to kill stuff.

Naaaa..... I had an XFX 790i Ultra, one of the best (although most expensive) boards I have ever owned.

 

[Mussels]

Naaaa..... I had an XFX 790i Ultra, one of the best (although most expensive) boards I have ever owned.

790i was the one that killed DDR3 ram, while 780i was the one with SATA corruption issues, wasnt it?

 

[DrPepper]

790i was the one that killed DDR3 ram, while 780i was the one with SATA corruption issues, wasnt it?

Yup that sounds right. I think it was still rare. I've had 3 780i boards and only one's failed with ram.

 

[Tatty_Two]

790i was the one that killed DDR3 ram, while 780i was the one with SATA corruption issues, wasnt it?

I think the issue with some early 790i boards was HDD corruption and NVidia had to "eventually" issue a generic BIOS update to solve the problem, although I fortunatly never had the issue, to the extent that at the time I had an early E8200 with the 8x multi (no E0 steppings then) which the board managed to clock to 4.5gig!

I never had any issues with what I considered to be an exceptional board, however if I had been suffering from data corruption I would have rocket propelled it back to XFX and would never have bought a NVidia chipset board again. It's all relative, I moved from that to a Gigabyte x48 DQ6, now I love giggy boards as my specs will show, I had to RMA the first 2 I got as faulty but ended up with a peach of a replacement.

 

[Mussels]

sounds like i had it backwards then, 780i killed ram, 790i had data corruption (that was eventually fixed)

 

[DanTheMan]

I had some OCZ Reapers that just would not perform well with a MSI Platinum 790FX MB I had one time, no matter what the BIOS settings it would just BSOD. It had 8 GB at the time, finally removed one stick and it worked well after that. From now on I only use Corsair, GSkill, or Geil - never had a problem with either brand.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

sounds like i had it backwards then, 780i killed ram, 790i had data corruption (that was eventually fixed)

Yes on the 790i, but 780i never officially had any issues aside from mediocre OC ability thanks to a voltage hungry northbridge. Asus 7-series was notoriously bad. XFX and EVGA 7 series was really good from what I have heard.

 

[{JNT}Raptor]

My 1600Mhz OCZ DDR3 3gig kit is purring along over here at it's 1600 Mhz rated speed with Zero Issues......never had bad memory from OCZ either....and I've recommended it to customers as well with no reports of failure or instabilities.

Sorry for your bad luck......but that's what it sounds like....."bad luck"...not a crappy manufacturer.

My 2c's.

 

[Tatty_Two]

My 1600Mhz OCZ DDR3 3gig kit is purring along over here at it's 1600 Mhz rated speed with Zero Issues......never had bad memory from OCZ either....and I've recommended it to customers as well with no reports of failure or instabilities.

Sorry for your bad luck......but that's what it sounds like....."bad luck"...not a crappy manufacturer.

My 2c's.

Is that the Platinum kit you have rated at CL7 @ 1600mhz

 

[Crazykenny]

To clear things up, I've manually set ALL timings, voltages and clockspeeds. I've done this according to OCZ specifications. I still got bluescreens. Then I downclocked them from 1600 to 1333 this samed to lessen the problem, BUT I still get crashes occasionally.

I've already ordered some quality Corsair Dominator 1600 RAM. I will RMA the OCZ sticks when it gets here. When they return I will either sell them or use them in conjunction with my Dominator RAM.

Question is though, how well is OCZ gonna adept to my Corsair RAM and vice versa.

 

[Tatty_Two]

To clear things up, I've manually set ALL timings, voltages and clockspeeds. I've done this according to OCZ specifications. I still got bluescreens. Then I downclocked them from 1600 to 1333 this samed to lessen the problem, BUT I still get crashes occasionally.

I've already ordered some quality Corsair Dominator 1600 RAM. I will RMA the OCZ sticks when it gets here. When they return I will either sell them or use them in conjunction with my Dominator RAM.

Question is though, how well is OCZ gonna adept to my Corsair RAM and vice versa.

Would you mind telling me what the OCZ specs were for VDimm @ 1600mhz?

 

[t_ski]

To clear things up, I've manually set ALL timings, voltages and clockspeeds. I've done this according to OCZ specifications. I still got bluescreens. Then I downclocked them from 1600 to 1333 this samed to lessen the problem, BUT I still get crashes occasionally.

That's good, but if can, please clarify if that means the generic specs for that ram, or the recommended settings for that ram in your motherboard. Sometimes the settings are only listed like "4-4-4-12 @ 1.65v." If that all you set, then it probably won't do you much good. AS I stated above, I did that and then some with the OCZ Plats on my Maximus, but the skew setting was the one that made all the difference. I don't recall ever finding that setting on the OCZ website or forums, but instead from other users' suggestions on XS for the Asus Maximus motherboard.

In all, I think this thread really is about bashing OCZ. There are quite a few people here who are willing to help you find out if this is the ram or the motherboard settings, but it seems like you do not want to provide enough information for everyone to assist you. If you want to bash OCZ without bothering to let anyone help you, then so-be-it. But if you want to take advantage of the resources available to you, why not post a list of your motherboard settigns and a link to your exact kit of ram? We might be able to straighten this out for you and help you avoid a needless RMA.

Remember, high performance ram can be picky in any system. This has little to do with the specifics of the ram but more-so the combination of the chips on the ram and the way the motherboard's BIOS works with the ram.

 

[Crazykenny]

Frequency: 1600MHz DDR3
Timings: CL 8-8-8-24 (CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)
Voltage: 1.65v
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