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i see crazy low prices in the US, but at least in Europe, my country and EU online stores i see lower prices but nothing crazy, they are still way over MSRP
 
Tadasuke said:
High-end (enthusiast) cards costed $400-500 for many years. It was the normal.
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I paid $599 for a GeForce 8800 GTX in 2006 I still have it in a working PC. And yes, there is a normal. Its the MSRP
 
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Tadasuke said:
High-end (enthusiast) cards costed $400-500 for many years. It was the normal.
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Sometimes they did, but there have been lots of variation. The 8800 Ultra was more than $800 ($1100 today). Many cards on the highest end (the 6990, 7990, 590, 690, 780ti and so on) were $700+. The 980ti was the first top end (but not really top end as the Titans started to come up) product in a long while that was cheaper (before the price slash). At this point in time I'd say the $500 for the high end GPU cannot be considered normal.

And inflation is really important. $500 in 2010 is $662 now. GPU prices are way too high for sure, but there is no way in heck a high end GPU will ever be $500 ever again.

Found a nice graph from 2017.
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Inflation adjusted price history of high end Nvidia GPUs tabulated - Graphics - News - HEXUS.net

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We not going back to even Pascal prices which at the time were high compared to Maxwell.

I expect prices to go up again when 4000 series launches, end of gen is always best time to buy.
 
Probably find that they return to pre 2020 pricing or even lower within 12-18 months.

The kicker could well be that due to other economic problems most will struggle to buy one anyway!
 
chrcoluk said:
We not going back to even Pascal prices which at the time were high compared to Maxwell.

I expect prices to go up again when 4000 series launches, end of gen is always best time to buy.
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Will prices go up for Ampere parts as well? Or just for the equivalent 4000 series parts?
 
80251 said:
Will prices go up for Ampere parts as well? Or just for the equivalent 4000 series parts?
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Both in my opinion, as Ampere stock goes down to very low levels because its no longer made prices will go up, at least thats whats been happening in the UK the past few generations.
 
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Frick said:
Found a nice graph from 2017.
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That's not a nice graph. Its clearly a cubic spline with "overshoots" for the lines vs the dots. For a graph with that kind of data, they should have used a monotone cubic hermite instead.

/nerd talk.

Anyway, that's some really interesting information. I think that when I was poorer college student, I wouldn't have been looking at those higher-end cards. But its important to realize that those high-end halo products always existed.

EDIT: The 6900 XT and RTX 3090 were well in excess of $1000 though. Maybe one could argue that 3090 was a Titan-class card and should be cut out?
 
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chrcoluk said:
Both in my opinion, as Ampere stock goes down to very low levels because its no linger made prices will go up, at least thats whats been happening in the UK the past few generations.
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Great now I have something to look forward to...:)
 
The point is, non-rgb models get sold out. You'll end up with Asus if you're shooting for brand new.
80251 said:
Great now I have something to look forward to...:)
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Prices have come down by hundreds of dollars over here in Australia atm. Wonder how long this will go on for?
 
AlwaysHope said:
Prices have come down by hundreds of dollars over here in Australia atm. Wonder how long this will go on for?
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Who knows? If a) crypto stays down and b) we're approaching a sated consumer market, then pricing could easily continue downward for a bit yet. Personally not holding my breath, though. Weirdly enough, inflation could introduce negative price pressure as buyers cut back on discretionary purchases. 100% speculation on my part.
 
80-watt Hamster said:
Who knows? If a) crypto stays down and b) we're approaching a sated consumer market, then pricing could easily continue downward for a bit yet. Personally not holding my breath, though. Weirdly enough, inflation could introduce negative price pressure as buyers cut back on discretionary purchases. 100% speculation on my part.
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True, no individual has control over inflation & that is the biggest threat atm to pricing trends.
 
chrcoluk said:
We not going back to even Pascal prices which at the time were high compared to Maxwell.

I expect prices to go up again when 4000 series launches, end of gen is always best time to buy.
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That isnt too surprising as the overall performance range of cards is a lot wider than it was, higher resolutions are simply a new segment you could say, because there is absolutely no need to go there 'to game well'.

But the norm that will return eventually though is that there is a decent card at every price point.
 
Frick said:
Sometimes they did, but there have been lots of variation. The 8800 Ultra was more than $800 ($1100 today). Many cards on the highest end (the 6990, 7990, 590, 690, 780ti and so on) were $700+. The 980ti was the first top end (but not really top end as the Titans started to come up) product in a long while that was cheaper (before the price slash). At this point in time I'd say the $500 for the high end GPU cannot be considered normal.

And inflation is really important. $500 in 2010 is $662 now. GPU prices are way too high for sure, but there is no way in heck a high end GPU will ever be $500 ever again.

Found a nice graph from 2017.
1c9a8251-8039-4dc6-9e84-40f92178c220.png



Inflation adjusted price history of high end Nvidia GPUs tabulated - Graphics - News - HEXUS.net

m.hexus.net m.hexus.net
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I think people just look at a tier like GTX 580 vs 3080 and think oh they should be the same price even though what the 580 offered and the 3080 offers are two drastically different things.

A 6750XT/3070 is actually the more directly priced competitor to what the 580 was priced at ignoring inflation. Honestly I wouldn't want to go back to when the flagship non titan card capped out at 500 usd..... I'd rather have a choice/option to spend 1000+ on something drastically better than a 3070 tier gpu.

it's hard to compare but flagship gpu handled demanding games substantially more poorly at 1080p when the best cards offered capped at 500 bucks.

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Metro sticks out to me because I remember how bad it ran on my SLI 580s at 1440p

I think the bigger issue these days is the sub 250 usd market is basically dead the cards are so cut down that I wouldn't feel good recommending them to anyone.... It's so bad that older options other than power draw are more appealing.
 
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Crypto is down, manufacturing is up. If it wasn't for inflation prices would be below MSRP
 
There are some eye catching prices in the used market right now.
I'm really tempted to replace my 2080Ti.

Is there a chance to have a second price war like the one we had when the 30 gen released?
If the 40 gen are untouchable because of the prices or the availability or both, then we will face again a price increase on the 30 models which now are priced interestingly in the used market.
 
gffermari said:
There are some eye catching prices in the used market right now.
I'm really tempted to replace my 2080Ti.

Is there a chance to have a second price war like the one we had when the 30 gen released?
If the 40 gen are untouchable because of the prices or the availability or both, then we will face again a price increase on the 30 models which now are priced interestingly in the used market.
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There will always be idiots who fire sell their $h!+ to get the latest and greatest. Wouldn't be shocked to see some 3080 10G and 6800XT at ridiculously low prices on ebay whenever Lovelace is announced.
 
gffermari said:
There are some eye catching prices in the used market right now.
I'm really tempted to replace my 2080Ti.

Is there a chance to have a second price war like the one we had when the 30 gen released?
If the 40 gen are untouchable because of the prices or the availability or both, then we will face again a price increase on the 30 models which now are priced interestingly in the used market.
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that only happened because the 2*** series was absolute dogshit, insane prices and very little performance gain, made the 3*** series look amazing in comparison. It will depend on the value of the new cards compared to the 3*** series.
 
I don't know how much the rumor that 4090Ti=2x3090 affected the prices of the gpus in the used market but it's really tempting to fire the gun for a 3090.

I assume a 4080 16GB will cost 749£(MSRP=3080MSRP+inflation+nVidia tax) and perform like a 3090(+/-2%) and a 4090 about 30% over 3090Ti.
The retail prices though may be like 1000£ for the 4080....
 
gffermari said:
I don't know how much the rumor that 4090Ti=2x3090
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That seems absurd and based on some weird obscure benchmark or application
 
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