Which Computer should we Keep ???

speedpc · Aug 29, 2008

OK we have 2 older systems that we are no longer using, A friend would like one just for copying stuff and surfing the web and such, The other one I will use for copying stuff

Which one should I keep ???? (All Stock Clocks)
System1:
Abit AI7 Socket 478
P4 2.8 Northwood
Thermalright XP90C / 92mm Fan
1Gig Kingston PC3200 (2x512mb)
Gigabyte X800XT (AGP)
Audigy2 ZS

System2:
Abit AV8 Socket 939
AMD64 3700+San Diego
Thermalright SLK948U / 92mm Fan + HR-05
1Gig Geil PC3500 (2x512mb)
6800GS (AGP)
Audigy2 ZS

Thanks Guys

erocker · Aug 29, 2008

Swap the video card from system 1 into system 2 and keep system 2.

speedpc · Aug 29, 2008

Interesting!!! I thought it would be the 6800GS OC for sure. shader3.0 vs shader2.0

I am also switching the Thermalright XP90C i found the 939 adapter bracket. Thanks

Pinchy · Aug 29, 2008

X800XT is a lot more powerful than a 6800GS (unless it is unlocked to 16pp)

With SM2.0 vs 3.0....that just depends on what games you play. If you want it for newer games the 6800 is better...older games the X800.

Melvis · Aug 29, 2008

Keep the 939 rig easy, i still own a 3700+ and it would eat that P4 up in a second, it use to beat my m8s 3.2Ghz P4 easy, its a no brainer really.

The GPU tho im not sure about, the 6800GS is not bad, but iam not really sure about the ATI card =/

Do a quick bench test in both rigs with both cards and see whats better?

But keep the 939 Machine, he doesn't need anything as good as that for what he is going to be doin.

speedpc · Aug 29, 2008

I will have to say that the x800xt does have alot better IQ in my opinion. If anything my son still plays UT2004 and WOW. any games newer we will play on the 4870x2. I'm only selling the 1 i don't keep for $125.00 so i should keep the good stuff (shhhh_lol ) Thanks again

speedpc · Aug 29, 2008

they both bench about the same in 3Dmarks 03 (11039) i'll actually rerun the x800xt on the 939 system now

3700+ 6800GS OC = 11170 (177.40 drivers)
3700+ X800XT = 11778 (8.8 Drivers)

candle_86 · Aug 29, 2008

its the 6800GS an NV40, NV41 or NV42 GPU?

The odds are good its NV40, if you can unlock it to 16pp6vs it becomes a 6800GT really fast. If its based on NV42 which a few AGP cards where, the core can be oc'd to 6800GS PCIe speeds and still equal a 6800GT. Now if its NV41 your screwed

Pinchy · Aug 29, 2008

Thats odd....in 03 the X800XT should score a lot higher (unless its losing points due to the CPU).

If you really want, get a cheap $5 or 10 AGP card for his rig and keep both the X800 and 6800. Its not like he is doing anything on the PC requiring a good VGA

speedpc · Aug 29, 2008

Pinchy said:
Thats odd....in 03 the X800XT should score a lot higher (unless its losing points due to the CPU).

If you really want, get a cheap $5 or 10 AGP card for his rig and keep both the X800 and 6800. Its not like he is doing anything on the PC requiring a good VGA

LOL

I have so much older hardware lying around i won't miss either one, hell i probably have duplicates buried in the closets

speedpc · Aug 29, 2008

candle_86 said:
its the 6800GS an NV40, NV41 or NV42 GPU?

The odds are good its NV40, if you can unlock it to 16pp6vs it becomes a 6800GT really fast. If its based on NV42 which a few AGP cards where, the core can be oc'd to 6800GS PCIe speeds and still equal a 6800GT. Now if its NV41 your screwed

I'll check it after the benchmark: Everest says NV40GS / pixel shaders 12(v3.0)
R420 / pixel shaders 16 (v2.0)

Well after messing with this old stuff i found a wierd issue with the X800XT on the intel board i used a DVI cable and it worked fine, but on the AMD board i get a blank screen it seems i need to use a vga cable, If i hook up the monitor with a vga and a dvi cable once it gets into windows it swithes the dvi mode (WEIRD) Since the monitor i will be using is only DVI i guess the 6800GS OC wins

and i like the ATI IQ better

Thanks Guys it was fun lol

Last comment on this post

I ended up keeping the 6800GS for the reason above. then i did what candle86 said and unlocked the pixel shaders to 16 and the vertex shaders to 6 benched it and got 12717

Thanks Guys (PS) the other guy really likes his $125.00 computer so we are both happy now (lol)

Processor	Intel Core 8700K
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7
Cooling	Coolit FreezOne
Memory	32Gigs \ G Skill RipjawsV F4-3600C16
Video Card(s)	GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080TI
Storage	2X Samsung 860EVO 1TB SSD / 1Seagate 2TB
Display(s)	LG 34GK950F
Case	Thermaltake Core X31 RGB Edition
Audio Device(s)	RealTek HD \Steel Series Arctis 7
Power Supply	Rosewill Quark Series 1000W Full Modular Power Supply with LED Indicator
Mouse	Razer Basilisk
Keyboard	Razer BlackWidow Chroma V2
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64Bit

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS TUF x670e
Cooling	EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans.
Memory	32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz
Video Card(s)	Asus RTX 4090
Storage	WD m.2
Display(s)	LG C2 Evo OLED 42"
Case	Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo
Audio Device(s)	Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp.
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard	Tester84
Software	Windows 11

Processor	Intel Core 8700K
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7
Cooling	Coolit FreezOne
Memory	32Gigs \ G Skill RipjawsV F4-3600C16
Video Card(s)	GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080TI
Storage	2X Samsung 860EVO 1TB SSD / 1Seagate 2TB
Display(s)	LG 34GK950F
Case	Thermaltake Core X31 RGB Edition
Audio Device(s)	RealTek HD \Steel Series Arctis 7
Power Supply	Rosewill Quark Series 1000W Full Modular Power Supply with LED Indicator
Mouse	Razer Basilisk
Keyboard	Razer BlackWidow Chroma V2
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64Bit

System Name	UltraPC
Processor	E8500 Core 2 Duo, 1333Mhz FSB, 3.16Ghz @ 4.5GHz (got into Windows @ 4.75GHz)
Motherboard	ASUS P5Q-e
Cooling	CPU Cooler - TT V14 Pro, 2x120mm CM Blue LED fans, 1x90mm CM Blue LED fan
Memory	G.Skill Pi 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel DDR2 PC8000 (1000MHz), 5-5-5-15
Video Card(s)	Sapphire HD4850 512mb with ASUS EAH4850 BIOS
Storage	2x 500GB Seagate 7200.12 Raid 0
Display(s)	Acer AL1912, 19" LCD screen
Case	Thermaltake Soprano Black ATX case
Audio Device(s)	Onboard 7.1, Speakers - 5 + Sub + Monitor speakers
Power Supply	Thermaltake 850W Toughpower Cable Management - Quad (2x18A and 2x30A) 12V rails
Software	Win 7 Pro x64, MSN, CS:Source, etc etc

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Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D \| Ryzen 1600X \| i7 970
Motherboard	MSi AM4 Pro Carbon \| GA- \| Gigabyte EX58-UD5
Cooling	Noctua U9S Twin Fan\| Stock Cooler, Copper Core)\| Big shairkan B
Memory	2x8GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws 3600MHz\| 2x8GB Corsair 3000 \| 6x2GB DDR3 1300 Corsair
Video Card(s)	MSI AMD 6750XT \| 6500XT \| MSI RX 580 8GB
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Display(s)	LG 27" 1440P\| Samsung 20" S20C300L/DELL 15" \| 22" DELL/19"DELL
Case	LIAN LI PC-18 \| Mini ATX Case (custom) \| Atrix C4 9001
Audio Device(s)	Onboard \| Onbaord \| Onboard
Power Supply	Silverstone 850 \| Silverstone Mini 450W \| Corsair CX-750
Mouse	Coolermaster Pro \| Rapoo V900 \| Gigabyte 6850X
Keyboard	MAX Keyboard Nighthawk X8 \| Creative Fatal1ty eluminx \| Some POS Logitech
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64 \| Windows 10 Pro 64 \| Windows 7 Pro 64/Windows 10 Home

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Processor	Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	ASROCKS B450 Steel Legend
Cooling	AMD Stealth
Memory	2x8gb DDR4 3200 Corsair
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 3060 Ti
Storage	WD Black 512gb, WD Blue 1TB
Display(s)	AOC 24in
Case	Raidmax Alpha Prime
Power Supply	700W Thermaltake Smart
Mouse	Logitech Mx510
Keyboard	Razer BlackWidow 2012
Software	Windows 10 Professional

Which Computer should we Keep ???

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